Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
»Q« wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:34:52 -0500 > "Walter Dnes" wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:23:18PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote >> >>> Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag a user >>> doesn't have enabled could still affect the user. I think I'll >>> still use --changed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Link-local ipv6 address in /etc/hosts? in browsers?

2012-01-21 Thread Walter Dnes
I think it comes down to a question of whether you're running a few machines at home or small office, versus a large multinational outfit with tens of thousands of machines. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:27:29AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote > Thinking about it, in your device's case, I suspect you won

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:34:52 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:23:18PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote > > > Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag a user > > doesn't have enabled could still affect the user. I think I'll > > still use --changed-use routinely and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:23:18PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote > Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag a user > doesn't have enabled could still affect the user. I think I'll still > use --changed-use routinely and also periodically run an update with > --newuse. What's the long

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
»Q« wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:51:01 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> So, it was a bug and Zac is fixing it. Sometimes when people >> complain, it is because something is not working as it should. > > I never saw Hilco as complaining, just questioning. And in the > post you quoted (and which I've

[gentoo-user] Re: For those who complain

2012-01-21 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:51:01 -0600 Dale wrote: > So, it was a bug and Zac is fixing it. Sometimes when people > complain, it is because something is not working as it should. I never saw Hilco as complaining, just questioning. And in the post you quoted (and which I've snipped), Hilco basicall

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:26:45 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > --changed-use is intended for cases like a flag you are not using at > all goes away. Caveat: Even then it could still break in subtle ways > with dodgy ebuilds. Caveat emptor. Thanks for the points you've made about how removal of a flag

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:45:25 -0800 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > > But is this not a case where the kde eclass *explictly* set the USE > > flag off? (Disclaimer: haven't read the eclass). In that case > > portage would not know what to do when the flag goes away so the > > behaviour we saw would not re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 21 January 2012 03:26, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:00:52 -0600 > »Q« wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:06:22 + >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> > I suspect this is >> > specific to the KDE ebuilds (or eclass). changed-use should only >> > skip an ebuild with changed flags

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Grant
>> "If your currently installed version of python reported by python -V >> is less than 2.6 then you must choose a version of portage that is >> compatible with it. If you have at least python 2.6 then use >> portage-2.1.10.41.tar.bz2. If you have python 2.4 or 2.5 then use >> portage-2.1.6.tar.bz2

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:57:32 -0800, Grant wrote: > "If your currently installed version of python reported by python -V > is less than 2.6 then you must choose a version of portage that is > compatible with it. If you have at least python 2.6 then use > portage-2.1.10.41.tar.bz2. If you have pytho

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/21/2012 01:56 PM, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > If its not being used and outage is not a problem, I would recommend > reinstalling. I'm against doying it, but 2 years is a lot, if you have > any servers (MySQL, PHP) it would be an issue, you'll have MAJOR > changes to X, OpenRC and I'm not even ta

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Stroller
On 20 January 2012, at 23:58, Grant wrote: >> OK, so the install is old and portage has dependencies, right? >> >> emerge -pvDuN portage >> >> will get you closer. However this is probably best covered using >> Neil's suggestion of >> >> emerge -pvDuN @system > > I can't even get started: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Good 'layman' tutorial on IPv4 > IPv6?

2012-01-21 Thread Chris Frederick
On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:36 PM, "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:45:08AM -0600, Chris Frederick wrote > >> If you still want private addresses, IPv6 has unique local addresses >> (fc00::/7 range, http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ula/ has a reg form to >> help assign a /48 to you). >

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Daniel da Veiga
If its not being used and outage is not a problem, I would recommend reinstalling. I'm against doying it, but 2 years is a lot, if you have any servers (MySQL, PHP) it would be an issue, you'll have MAJOR changes to X, OpenRC and I'm not even talking about the kernel, udev, etc. I would back it up

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Grant
>> # emerge -avDuN system >> [snip] >> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-auth/pambase-20081028" have >> been masked. >> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your >> request: >> - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/20/2012 11:48 PM, Grant wrote: You don't have to do the entire stage3 at once, http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/ has precompiled packages for the major arches and profiles. You could try to replace just pambase, pam, python, etc. -- whatever's giving you trouble. This was not my first

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Grant
>> # emerge -avDuN system >> [snip] >> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-auth/pambase-20081028" have >> been masked. >> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your >> request: >> - sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r1 (masked by: EAPI 4) >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Link-local ipv6 address in /etc/hosts? in browsers?

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-01-19, Michael Mol wrote: > Do you really want that much broadcast and wide multicast (think DNS-SD and NTP in multicast mode) traffic on the same Ethernet segment? >>> >>> That bit I don't understand. ??It's no worse

Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread James Broadhead
On 21 January 2012 04:48, Grant wrote: > # emerge -avDuN system > [snip] > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-auth/pambase-20081028" have > been masked. > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your > request: > - sys-auth/pambase-201010

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage option "--changed-use" not working?

2012-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:00:52 -0600 »Q« wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:06:22 + > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > I suspect this is > > specific to the KDE ebuilds (or eclass). changed-use should only > > skip an ebuild with changed flags if re-emerging would produce > > exactly the same code as

Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up

2012-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: > As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start > X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels > yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right > after udevd is started, while

[gentoo-user] Re: Resurrecting a Gentoo install

2012-01-21 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 21 January 2012, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/20/2012 09:42 PM, Grant wrote: > >>> # emerge -avDuN system > >>> [snip] > >>> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-auth/pambase-20081028" > >>> have been masked. > >>> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete