Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root itself and /boot of

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) What's the point in using -v if you're not there to watch it? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Documentation: (n.) a

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears that the stage3 tarball

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system and it just griped.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 03:48, Dale wrote: Howdy, Howdy! this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, As long as you don't use the udev version that requires access to /usr at boot time (or mdev) then you

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 03:45 -0600, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system

[gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when using many small files. On the other hand I also heard that it tends to get slower with every emerge --sync. Space is no longer an argument

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when using many small files. On the other hand I also heard that it tends to get slower with every emerge --sync.

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 10.03.2012 14:30, schrieb Alex Schuster: Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Yes. It allows you to use a smaller and more appropriate block size like 1k or 2k which decreases internal fragmentation. It also increases locality of data,

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 10, 2012 8:33 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient when using many small files. On the other hand I also heard that it tends

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 10, 2012 10:09 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 10, 2012 8:33 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is efficient

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:30:15 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: Any tips on this? Does it make sense to use a special file system just for the portage tree? What would be best? Would it help to re-create this file system from time to time in case it gets slower with every sync? I use an ext2

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate partition outside of LVM, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Todd Goodman
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120309 21:55]: Howdy, [..] [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs [0.880111] audit: initializing

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:09:26 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Mar 10, 2012 8:33 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Hi there! Is there an advantage in putting the portage tree on an extra partition? Currently, I'm using reiserfs, because I read that it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread YoYo Siska
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 03:35:05PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:30:15 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: Any tips on this? Does it make sense to use a special file system just for the portage tree? What would be best? Would it help to re-create this file system from time to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Bryan Gardiner b...@khumba.net wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 09:09:37 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: I just ran it, here's the output: Found 22 processes using

Re: [gentoo-user] Best file system for portage tree?

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:36:07 +0100, YoYo Siska wrote: I use an ext2 filesystem for portage, it's still the fastest out there. Journals are unnecessary because its such a small filesystem, and if it does get damaged I can just reformat and sync again. I use an ext2 partition in a 500MB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Bryan Gardiner b...@khumba.net wrote: SNIP From Paul's output: sys-apps/smartmontools:         5082    /usr/sbin/smartd sys-auth/consolekit:         4384    /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Best regards Peter K

[gentoo-user] gmail smtp overwrites the sender

2012-03-10 Thread András Csányi
Dear All, I would like to ask some help! I would like to use gmail smtp to send my email from my domain which is sayusi.hu, and the email address is sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu. Unfortunately, gmail smtp always overwrite the sender email address. If I would like to subscribe for a mailing list with

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! That's one case; I would

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: * Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120309 21:55]: Howdy, [..] [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs [

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:50:02 +0100, pk wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! testing, not masked. Although it turns out that the latest in ~amd64 is the same

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Just posted to -devel,

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread John Blinka
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 10, 2012 10:38 AM, Neil Bothwick lt;n...@digimed.co.ukgt; wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: gt; Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm gt; running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions