Re: [gentoo-user] update broke X

2013-01-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:18:44 -0800, Cinder wrote: VIDEO_CARDS=nouveau v4l Add vesa to this. It won't fix the nouveau problem but it will give you a fallback when it fails. -- Neil Bothwick Evolution stops when stupidity is no longer fatal! signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] update broke X

2013-01-17 Thread Andrew Hoffman
I would try the standard nvidia driver next. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:18:44 -0800, Cinder wrote: VIDEO_CARDS=nouveau v4l Add vesa to this. It won't fix the nouveau problem but it will give you a fallback when it

Re: [gentoo-user] System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Stroller
On 16 January 2013, at 16:43, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's motherboard clock is a little slow. When the system comes up, the system time is set from the motherboard clock. If that's slow, something in the init system seems to panic because

Re: [gentoo-user] System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread William Tomlinson
I've had this problem before as well and can confirm that adding NTP to the default run level solved it. On Jan 17, 2013 10:08 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 16 January 2013, at 16:43, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's

Re: [gentoo-user] System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 03:06:23PM +, Stroller wrote: On 16 January 2013, at 16:43, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's motherboard clock is a little slow. When the system comes up, the system time is set from the motherboard clock. If

Re: [gentoo-user] System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 04:43:16PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's motherboard clock is a little slow. When the system comes up, the system time is set from the motherboard clock. If that's slow, something in the init system seems to panic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
So it is Linux' fault, that your mate used crap Hardware? That is great! let us blame it for the weather too. And stubbed toes. Am 16.01.2013 21:43 schrieb Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk: I have had systems in the past who refused to boot because the motherboard time was off, and at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Kevin Chadwick
So it is Linux' fault, that your mate used crap Hardware? That is great! let us blame it for the weather too. And stubbed toes. Well the point was that if OpenBSD had an auto update function I could have installed that and he would still be using OpenBSD happily. If Linux did what OpenBSD does

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:29:04 -0600 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: But, in the failures I've been seeing today,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:35:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: I already had that set. :) I'm not talking about clearing the screen at the login prompt; it clears mid-OpenRC during/after the udev step (as Grant also described), though in my case it does not halt but continues printing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:45:13 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:35:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: I already had that set. :) I'm not talking about clearing the screen at the login prompt; it clears mid-OpenRC during/after the udev step

[gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-17, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 16 January 2013, at 16:43, Grant Edwards wrote: I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's motherboard clock is a little slow. When the system comes up, the system time is set from the motherboard clock. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:47:17 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: By default, ntpd doesn't seem to want to do a step correction to fix large clock errors on startup (there's probably an option for that). That's for ntp-client to do. -- Neil Bothwick Everything should be made as simple as