Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox - failed to access the USB subsystem

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/09/2013 04:26, Joseph wrote: > On 09/01/13 08:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 01/09/2013 05:27, Joseph wrote: >>> On 08/31/13 19:10, Joseph wrote: After recent upgrade I'm getting an error when trying to start the virtualbox. Failed to access the USB subsystem. Could n

Re: [gentoo-user] Digest errors in an overlay, but only in one box

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 20:18:54 you wrote: > On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 19:25:45 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Just to confirm, this is vapier's overlay you are using? Not niifaq? > > Yes, this is vapier's overlay. I think I got to the bottom of it. I reinstalled layman and all errors seem to have gone fo

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 01:41:30PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote > Case in point - do you enable all the ext4 options, like acls and > whatnot? Let's say no. > > What if you suddenly have to mount an external hard disk to > recover some system on your server and the hard disk uses those ext4 > o

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Sep 2, 2013 5:21 AM, "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 09:49:23AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote > > Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > You can get away with most stuff as modules; ***BUT NOT THE ROOT > > > FILESYSTEM***. Think about it for a minute. Gentoo reads modules off > > > t

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 10:11:01AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote > You don't, it is only *required* if you have a separate /usr... in fact > that is what the whole argument was about. > > At least that is my understanding of the situation now... please don't > tell me I'm wrong and there was another v

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox - failed to access the USB subsystem

2013-09-01 Thread Joseph
On 09/01/13 08:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/09/2013 05:27, Joseph wrote: On 08/31/13 19:10, Joseph wrote: After recent upgrade I'm getting an error when trying to start the virtualbox. Failed to access the USB subsystem. Could not load the Host USB Proxy service: VERR_NOT_FOUND. Details: Re

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 09:49:23AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote > Walter Dnes wrote: > > > You can get away with most stuff as modules; ***BUT NOT THE ROOT > > FILESYSTEM***. Think about it for a minute. Gentoo reads modules off > > the disk. If the code for the root filesystem is a module,

Re: [gentoo-user] Digest errors in an overlay, but only in one box

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 19:25:45 Alan McKinnon wrote: > That overlay hasn't been manifested properly, the checksums and file > sizes don't match. You have two options: > > redigest every ebuild in the entire overlay I wasn't going to do this, given that one machine is happy. > resync and hope it'

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 19:50:53 Grant wrote: > >> So the culprit is the first IP that should appear in the list but > >> doesn't? If so, how is that helpful since it's not displayed? > > > > This is where it gets tricky. You identify the last router in the list > > for which you have an address o

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 18:54:45 Grant wrote: > >> OK, does PMTUD lower the outgoing packet size on my system due to the > >> hotel router's lower MTU or does the hotel router itself fragment my > >> 1500 byte packets in order to send them out? Just curious. > > > > If you are sending out packets w

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others > (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on > both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could > my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blo

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2013 20:07, Grant wrote: My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could my AT&T business ADSL connecti

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.09.2013 20:16, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Some syntax error in line 26 as far as syntax highlighting in vim tells >> me ... everything red from down there ... but it works ... > > Well, a proper editor, like Emacs, highligh

Re: [gentoo-user] Digest errors in an overlay, but only in one box

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
That overlay hasn't been manifested properly, the checksums and file sizes don't match. You have two options: redigest every ebuild in the entire overlay resync and hope it's fixed (maybe report a bug) Just to confirm, this is vapier's overlay you are using? Not niifaq? I recall manifest problem

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> I have been using it in all of my machines for some days now, and it >> works for me; but I take no responsibility if it breaks your machine, >> or if it kills your dog. > > So far

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>>> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others >>> (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on >>> both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could >>> my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blocking >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> > My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others >> > (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on >> > both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. >> > Could my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > I have been using it in all of my machines for some days now, and it > works for me; but I take no responsibility if it breaks your machine, > or if it kills your dog. So far the cat still lives ... your script worked fine here in the first try.

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> OK, does PMTUD lower the outgoing packet size on my system due to the >> hotel router's lower MTU or does the hotel router itself fragment my >> 1500 byte packets in order to send them out? Just curious. > > If you are sending out packets with the DF bit set no fragmentation will take > place -

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2013 17:04, Grant wrote: >> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others >> (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on >> both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could >> my AT&T business ADSL connection on th

[gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-09-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
I am following vanilla-sources in all my machines, which is what people like Greg Kroah-Hartman actually recommends [1][2]. Since they are now never stabilized [3], this means that I need to update them pretty regularly to keep them safe. This implies that I have to change the /usr/src/linux symbo

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 17:17:37 Grant wrote: > OK, does PMTUD lower the outgoing packet size on my system due to the > hotel router's lower MTU or does the hotel router itself fragment my > 1500 byte packets in order to send them out? Just curious. If you are sending out packets with the DF bit s

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 16:04:17 Grant wrote: > > My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others > > (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on > > both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. > > Could my AT&T business ADSL co

Re: [gentoo-user] Digest errors in an overlay, but only in one box

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 15:45:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: > What's the contents of the Manifest file in those two directories? > What does "ls -al" say ebuild the supposedly faulty ebuilds? > > I also note the error reported in both cases is exactly 6 bytes. > Might be significant, let's keep that in m

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
> The hotel's router/modem may be using PPPoE to authenticate with their ISP, > which has a larger header size and requires an MTU of 1492 (1464+28=1492) > > So, although your NIC is configured to the full ethernet MTU size, the router > drops the size down to 1492 to be able to squeeze it out thro

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 14:59:19 Grant wrote: > >> Could ICMP packets not getting through be to blame for my proxy server > >> problem? My laptop can't seem to ping anyone (blocked at the firewall > >> in this hotel I suppose) and certainly the proxy server can't ping my > >> laptop. > > > > Not al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others >> (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on >> both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could >> my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blocking >> inbound pings? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others > (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on > both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could > my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blocking > inbo

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/09/13 15:28, Grant wrote: My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2013 16:30, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-01 12:31 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> Of course, support for an initramfs is not actually a file system >> (it's not even in the File systems section of the kernel >> configuration, is in General setup); it's not possible to have >> initramfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Digest errors in an overlay, but only in one box

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2013 15:07, Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > I updated the enlightenment overlay on two PCs. The first which incidentally > I use as a portage mirror for my LAN works as expected, while the second PC > is > coming up with these type of errors: > > # emerge -uaDv world > > These are the pac

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2013 15:28, Grant wrote: My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-01 12:31 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Of course, support for an initramfs is not actually a file system (it's not even in the File systems section of the kernel configuration, is in General setup); it's not possible to have initramfs as a module (that would make no sense at all); an

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-31 7:32 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: If this is not mainline, and it is not trivial gentoo kernels maintainer patch, and you must have this as static, you can just put the patch within/etc/portage/patches/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/, so it will patch your kernel every time you emerge new on

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-31 11:55 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: Also, I really wonder what the point is in having to use initramfs on a system where /usr is part of /. You don't, it is only *required* if you have a separate /usr... in fact that is what the whole argument was about. At least that is my understan

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> Could ICMP packets not getting through be to blame for my proxy server >> problem? My laptop can't seem to ping anyone (blocked at the firewall >> in this hotel I suppose) and certainly the proxy server can't ping my >> laptop. > > Not all ICMP packets are relevant to detecting the MTU of a nod

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-31 7:29 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: You must have missed the point that this is for*servers*, that most people*disable modules* on. I*know* that it is available as a module. Why, for security reasons? Because if you don't need something, why enable it? If modu

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>>> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others >>> (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on >>> both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could >>> my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blocking >>> inbound pings?

[gentoo-user] Digest errors in an overlay, but only in one box

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
Hi All, I updated the enlightenment overlay on two PCs. The first which incidentally I use as a portage mirror for my LAN works as expected, while the second PC is coming up with these type of errors: # emerge -uaDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dep

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 12:17:28 Grant wrote: > > Communications between IPv4 end points use PMTUD by setting a Don't > > Fragment (DF) bit in the headers of the outgoing packet. If a > > router/server along the path has a smaller MTU, it will drop that packet > > and respond with an ICMP 'Destinati

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 01.09.2013 14:54, schrieb Michael Hampicke: > Am 01.09.2013 14:28, schrieb Grant: >> My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others >> (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on >> both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could >> my

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 01.09.2013 14:28, schrieb Grant: > My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others > (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on > both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could > my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be

[gentoo-user] Can't ping remote system

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
My laptop can't ping my remote system but it can ping others (google.com, yahoo.com, etc). I've tried disabling my firewall on both ends with '/etc/init.d/shorewall stop && shorewall clear'. Could my AT&T business ADSL connection on the remote system be blocking inbound pings? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> > If you are still troubled by the proxy connection stalling problem, have >> > you tried transferring large files over the network using scp/sftp to >> > see if you are also getting similar symptoms? This would isolate it to >> > the application level (squid) or if the problem remains would po

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 11:31:10 Grant wrote: > > If you are still troubled by the proxy connection stalling problem, have > > you tried transferring large files over the network using scp/sftp to > > see if you are also getting similar symptoms? This would isolate it to > > the application level (

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
> Communications between IPv4 end points use PMTUD by setting a Don't Fragment > (DF) bit in the headers of the outgoing packet. If a router/server along the > path has a smaller MTU, it will drop that packet and respond with an ICMP > 'Destination Unreachable -- Fragmentation Needed' packet inclu

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> Thanks Mick. Can you generally rely on PMTUD to set the MTU optimally >> or should this be experimented with when changing connections? > > Short answer: default Linux machine settings behave properly as network > devices and acknowledge packets larger than their MTU value with the > appropria

[gentoo-user] {OT} cool new postfix whitelist feature

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
postfix has a new whitelist feature in 2.11. A main.cf config like this: postscreen_greet_action = enforce postscreen_pipelining_enable = yes postscreen_pipelining_action = enforce postscreen_non_smtp_command_enable = yes postscreen_non_smtp_command_action = enforce postscreen_bare_newline_enable

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium: questions

2013-09-01 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 12:11:37 you wrote: > After the first launch, some entries immediately appear in History. I > visited those before, but it's not everything I visited. Approximately > 10-20 entries. > From where is this information taken? If it's Google servers, what info is > used for ident

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> Does this look OK? >> >> $ dig soa MASKED.com +short @MASKED1.MASKED.com >> MASKED1.MASKED.com. MASKED.MASKED.com. MMDD00 3600 1801 604800 3601 > > That looks OK, doubly so if all listed NS servers return the same answer They do indeed. > In all likelihood I'd say you are dealing with a DN

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2013 10:24, Grant wrote: >> Instead just use dig, using google.com as an example get the NS records >> > first: >> > >> > $ dig ns google.com +short >> > ns3.google.com. >> > ns2.google.com. >> > ns1.google.com. >> > ns4.google.com. >> > >> > Then query each of those name server in turn di

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 01 Sep 2013 08:40:20 Grant wrote: > >> How is PMTUD enabled/disabled on Gentoo? I've recently been made > >> aware of the existence of MTU and I'm wondering if mine is set > >> properly for a cell phone tethered connection. > > Thanks Mick. Can you generally rely on PMTUD to set the MT

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider. I just checked my DNS >> settings at dnscheck.pingdom.com and I got: >> >> 1. No SOA record was found when querying the name server. This is most >> probably due to a misconfiguration at the name server - a zone must >> have a SOA record. >> >> 2.

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Walter Dnes wrote: > You can get away with most stuff as modules; ***BUT NOT THE ROOT > FILESYSTEM***. Think about it for a minute. Gentoo reads modules off > the disk. If the code for the root filesystem is a module, Gentoo would > have to read the module off the disk to enable it to read t

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-09-01 Thread Grant
>> How is PMTUD enabled/disabled on Gentoo? I've recently been made >> aware of the existence of MTU and I'm wondering if mine is set >> properly for a cell phone tethered connection. Thanks Mick. Can you generally rely on PMTUD to set the MTU optimally or should this be experimented with when c