Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NVMe drive and grub

2016-06-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, April 07, 2016 07:41:35 PM Remy Blank wrote: > pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote on 2016-04-07 17:24: > > I have a new box with an NVMe SSD drive attached to the PCI bus via an M.2 > > interface. The drive shows up as /dev/nvme0n1, with partitions > > /dev/nvme0n1p1, /dev/nvme0n1p2, ... > >

[gentoo-user] Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-15 Thread José Maldonado
Hi everybody! The last days, ArsTechnica publish this new: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/goodbye-apt-and-yum-ubuntus-snap-apps-are-coming-to-distros-everywhere/ "Snaps now work natively on Arch, Debian, Fedora, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
James wrote: > ccs.covici.com> writes: > > > > Well, the problemis, I don't know the correct parameters to get the best > > resolution -- there is a formula to calculate if I use vga=, but grub > > had a way where you specified the mode and it put the screen in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and VPN, plus security in generla

2016-06-15 Thread Dale
James wrote: > Dale gmail.com> writes: > > >>> Blueness has created a 'tin hat' [1] mini secure linux distro that runs >>> in all ram for the truely paranoid (or those with valid security features). >>> You can just boot up with tinhat or Pentoo and use the live version >>> for sensitive

[gentoo-user] Re: basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread James
ccs.covici.com> writes: > Well, the problemis, I don't know the correct parameters to get the best > resolution -- there is a formula to calculate if I use vga=, but grub > had a way where you specified the mode and it put the screen in graphics > mode and passed it on to linux, which seemed

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and VPN, plus security in generla

2016-06-15 Thread James
Dale gmail.com> writes: > > Blueness has created a 'tin hat' [1] mini secure linux distro that runs > > in all ram for the truely paranoid (or those with valid security features). > > You can just boot up with tinhat or Pentoo and use the live version > > for sensitive transactional types of

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:41:07AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote > > > Well, I am trying to use the nvidia driver which conflicts with uvesafb > > frame buffer, so it seems. It used to work fine, but not it does not > > work anymore and the only solutions I

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread waltdnes
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:41:07AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote > Well, I am trying to use the nvidia driver which conflicts with uvesafb > frame buffer, so it seems. It used to work fine, but not it does not > work anymore and the only solutions I have found was a couple of grub >

loading frame bufrer modules (was Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question)

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:00:33 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > That's why I said "switch to nouveau", using that instead of the > > > binary drivers should avoid the conflict. > > > > Can I use uvesafb and noveau at the same time? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and VPN, plus security in generla

2016-06-15 Thread Dale
James wrote: > Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > >> Some of what Dale wants can be achieved to a greater or lesser extent >> with Tor, so he should be looking at that too. > > Blueness has created a 'tin hat' [1] mini secure linux distro that runs > in all ram for the truely paranoid (or

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and VPN, plus security in generla

2016-06-15 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > Some of what Dale wants can be achieved to a greater or lesser extent > with Tor, so he should be looking at that too. Blueness has created a 'tin hat' [1] mini secure linux distro that runs in all ram for the truely paranoid (or those with valid

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:57:40 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > The nvidia drivers are the proprietary drivers produced by NVIDIA; the > > nouveau drivers are the open-source version. Typically, the nouveau > > driver works as well as the nouveau, except in some high-intensity > >

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:00:33 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > That's why I said "switch to nouveau", using that instead of the > > binary drivers should avoid the conflict. > > Can I use uvesafb and noveau at the same time? I've not tried it, but as both are proper in-kernel modules,

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:57:40PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Dutch Ingraham wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:52:57AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:55:39 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:55:39 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400,

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Might it not be simpler to avoid the conflict by switching to the > > > nouveau drivers rather than trying to learn a new bootloader just to > > > pass a workround? > > > > You

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:52:57AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge config files update question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:07:21 +0200, ma...@nucleus.it wrote: > then i change parameters in /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/conf.d/dhcpd > > then i upgrade the net-misc/dhcp (net-misc/dhcp ~amd64) > > emerge -v1 net-misc/dhcp > [ebuild U ~] net-misc/dhcp-4.3.4::gentoo [4.3.3_p1::gentoo] > >

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:52:57 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Perhaps I've missed it, but is there any reason you must have > > nvidia-drivers rather than nouveau? > > I have a nvidia card, so I need the nvidia drivers, unless I am missinng > something? You are, the fact that nouveau

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Might it not be simpler to avoid the conflict by switching to the > > nouveau drivers rather than trying to learn a new bootloader just to > > pass a workround? > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at

[gentoo-user] Emerge config files update question

2016-06-15 Thread marco
Hi all, i need explanation about how emerge does updates of config files. example: emerge -v1 =net-misc/dhcp-4.3.3_p1 then i change parameters in /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/conf.d/dhcpd then i upgrade the net-misc/dhcp (net-misc/dhcp ~amd64) emerge -v1 net-misc/dhcp [ebuild U ~]

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:52:57 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > > > time, so this is the problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:52:57AM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > > > time, so this is the

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub > > > > > command or rather the grub

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > > time, so this is the problem. I did try that once, but at the time > > which was quite a while ago, it

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 15 Jun 2016 11:05:13 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > You can't use the nouveau drivers and the nvidia driver at the same > time, so this is the problem. I did try that once, but at the time > which was quite a while ago, it didn't work. Perhaps I've missed it, but is there any

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > Why are you looking to switch from Lilo to GRUB now? If Lilo works, > > > stick with it. If it is because you have EFI hardware, I'd skip GRUB > > > and go straight to Gummiboot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I think I've gotten burned out talking about the advantages of systemd > on Gentoo lists. If anybody wants to chat about it feel free to ping > me via email or irc, but not in a channel. You're giving up far too early!

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:41:07 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Why are you looking to switch from Lilo to GRUB now? If Lilo works, > > stick with it. If it is because you have EFI hardware, I'd skip GRUB > > and go straight to Gummiboot or systemd-boot. > > Well, I am trying to use the

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub > > > > command or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually > > > > call it grub, maybe it has a

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:42:45 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub > > > command or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually > > > call it grub, maybe it has a different name. > > > > That's the GRUB interactive

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:04 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub command > > or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually call it grub, > > maybe it has a different

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:31:04 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > But the manual and the html pages constantly talk about the grub command > or rather the grub interactive command, and they usually call it grub, > maybe it has a different name. That's the GRUB interactive shell, that you get to

Re: [gentoo-user] basic grub question

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 15/06/2016 13:50, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Hi. I am looking at grub2 as a possible boot loader -- I have been > > using lilo for years, but one thing puzzles me -- there seems to be no > > grub command, I don't see it in the list of

Re: [gentoo-user]

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:50:30 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. I am looking at grub2 as a possible boot loader -- I have been > using lilo for years, but one thing puzzles me -- there seems to be no > grub command, I don't see it in the list of files and typing grub does > nothing. I

Re: [gentoo-user]

2016-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/06/2016 13:50, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking at grub2 as a possible boot loader -- I have been using lilo for years, but one thing puzzles me -- there seems to be no grub command, I don't see it in the list of files and typing grub does nothing. I have not run

[gentoo-user]

2016-06-15 Thread covici
Hi. I am looking at grub2 as a possible boot loader -- I have been using lilo for years, but one thing puzzles me -- there seems to be no grub command, I don't see it in the list of files and typing grub does nothing. I have not run grub-install yet, but I would like to know what is happening.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > Perhaps somebody with more systemd expertise will now feel compelled to > respond ;-) . I think I've gotten burned out talking about the advantages of systemd on Gentoo lists. If anybody wants to chat about it feel free to

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and VPN, plus security in generla

2016-06-15 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:46:34 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > >> There's typically no need to use a VPN when accessing an HTTPS website, >> as the SSL/TLS already provides most of the privacy that a VPN would >> supply. The extra that the VPN gives you in this case is to hide

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and VPN, plus security in generla

2016-06-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:46:34 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > There's typically no need to use a VPN when accessing an HTTPS website, > as the SSL/TLS already provides most of the privacy that a VPN would > supply. The extra that the VPN gives you in this case is to hide which > websites you're

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Marc Joliet
On Tuesday 14 June 2016 06:46:32 J. Roeleveld wrote: >On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: >> wabe gmail.com> writes: >> Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have >> it's merits. > >Serious question: What makes systemd more suitable to manage 1000 linux