[gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-24 22:21, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Are you mixing portage/env up with portage/package.env? The latter > loads conf files from env that contain variable assignments. I don't think I'm mixing them up: one of them is a directory, so hardly can contain any code at all ;-) (Well, the other

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:39:25 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > My MUA is KMail-2, which seems to be all right for others using IMAP > but is very far from robust when fetching POP3 mails. I've tried > alternatives to it, but none of them suit me - in particular, > claws-mail is horrible, Funnily

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:07:24 -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > You do have a choice, use /etc/portage/env. here's one I have to patch > > a specific version of a package > > > > % cat env/app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.3 > > post_src_unpack() { > > cd "${S}" > > epatch_user > > } > > Again

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI bcache broken in 4.14.0

2017-11-24 Thread Adam Carter
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Adam Carter wrote: > Earlier versions ok and 4.14.1 has the fix > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/22/linux_4_14_bcache_ > bug_destroys_data/ > Correction - the fix is in 4.14.2

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Matthias Hanft
Peter Humphrey wrote: > > The ebuild installs /etc/init.d/fetchmail and /etc/conf.d/fetchmail, so it > seems to expect me to run as a daemon. But then there's no sample > fetchmailrc, which surprises me. A simple example line from my /etc/fetchmailrc is: poll pop.mail.server.example.com proto

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 24.11.17 18:30, Rich Freeman wrote: > While Postfix certainly won't serve up email via IMAP it definitely > does store email. As an MTA should, Postfix transports email. It can also handle local mail transport (say, in maildirs) and I guess one could call that "storing" mail, but to me that's

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Ralph Seichter wrote: > On 24.11.17 16:39, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I'm trying an evasion, which is to use fetchmail to retrieve emails >> from my ISP and deliver them to postfix, which can then serve them >> via IMAP. > > Postfix is

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 24.11.17 17:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > That's because I don't yet know enough to know what questions to ask; > that's why I hoped I'd be pointed to a general guide or explanation. http://www.fetchmail.info/ is the most obvious starting point, and I assume you have found that one. Fetchmail

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/24/2017 12:07 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Again IIRC, when I tried using env for a similar purpose, it didn't work > at all, it seemed the only things valid in those files were variable > assignments. Sounds about right... from `man portage`... package.env Per-package

[gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-24 08:32, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Package P bypasses applying user patches (by not calling > > default_src_prepare). I have patches I need to apply to P, and in > > this case I really don't want to fork the ebuild. So, I'm hell bent > > on doing it the hacky way with

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 24 November 2017 16:16:15 GMT Ralph Seichter wrote: > On 24.11.17 16:39, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I'm trying an evasion, which is to use fetchmail to retrieve emails > > from my ISP and deliver them to postfix, which can then serve them > > via IMAP. > > Postfix is an MTA and does

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 24 November 2017 16:08:54 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 24/11/17 15:39, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Is there any guidance on setting up fetchmail on Gentoo to operate in > > this way? I've searched in likely places but the Gentoo docs are long > > out of date and others don't help much, so I

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 24.11.17 16:39, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'm trying an evasion, which is to use fetchmail to retrieve emails > from my ISP and deliver them to postfix, which can then serve them > via IMAP. Postfix is an MTA and does neither store email nor lets you access email via IMAP. There must be an IMAP

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/11/17 15:39, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Is there any guidance on setting up fetchmail on Gentoo to operate in this > way? I've searched in likely places but the Gentoo docs are long out of date > and others don't help much, so I still don't know what to add to /etc/ > conf.d/fetchmail, nor

[gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, My MUA is KMail-2, which seems to be all right for others using IMAP but is very far from robust when fetching POP3 mails. I've tried alternatives to it, but none of them suit me - in particular, claws-mail is horrible, requiring a very different mental model just to operate it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:12:37 -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Package P bypasses applying user patches (by not calling > default_src_prepare). I have patches I need to apply to P, and in this > case I really don't want to fork the ebuild. So, I'm hell bent on > doing it the hacky way with