Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, December 15, 2017 2:25:29 AM CET Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 02:12:08 CET schrieb R0b0t1: > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > > On Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:03:19 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > >> I'll try

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, December 15, 2017 4:05:41 AM CET Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:54:59 +0100 schrieb J. Roeleveld: > >> Some historical correctnesses about Canek: > >> > >> - He has been here for years - He has contributed here for years - He > >> supports systemd and has offered more help

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:54:59 +0100 schrieb J. Roeleveld: >> Some historical correctnesses about Canek: >> >> - He has been here for years - He has contributed here for years - He >> supports systemd and has offered more help and explanation about >> systemd to it's users on this list than any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 02:12:08 CET schrieb R0b0t1: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:03:19 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> I'll try not to feed this monster thread any longer, I promise. > > > > Ah, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 16:52:59 CET schrieb Ian Zimmerman: > On 2017-12-14 11:57, Marc Joliet wrote: > > I could list specific features of systemd that I like and make use of > > (such as socket activation, autofs integration, user units, nspawn, or > > the journal), but thinking about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread R0b0t1
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:03:19 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> I'll try not to feed this monster thread any longer, I promise. > > Ah, but will you succeed?:) > List, in my weakness, I felt compelled to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:03:19 GMT Ian Zimmerman wrote: > I'll try not to feed this monster thread any longer, I promise. Ah, but will you succeed?:) -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/14/2017 03:30 PM, David Haller wrote: > > Does openrc-run (or the old way) support adding to strings? I.e.: > > > modules+=" foo" > modules+=" bar" > > > or must one use > > > modules="${modules} foo" > modules="${modules} bar" > > > or must it even be one single

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Thu, 14 Dec 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >On 12/14/2017 12:43 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> >> I have added the following lines to  /etc/conf.d/modules >> >> modules="enhanceio" >> modules="enhanceio_lru" >> modules="enhanceio_fifo" >> modules="enhanceio_rand" >> > >"modules" is a

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/14/2017 07:43:55 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 12/14/2017 12:43 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > I have added the following lines to  /etc/conf.d/modules > > modules="enhanceio" > modules="enhanceio_lru" > modules="enhanceio_fifo" > modules="enhanceio_rand" > "modules" is a variable name,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Helmut Jarausch: > >>I have added the following lines to /etc/conf.d/modules >> >>modules="enhanceio" >>modules="enhanceio_lru" >>modules="enhanceio_fifo" >>modules="enhanceio_rand" >> >> >>but these modules don't get loaded

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:43:55 GMT Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/14/2017 12:43 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > I have added the following lines to /etc/conf.d/modules > > > > modules="enhanceio" > > modules="enhanceio_lru" > > modules="enhanceio_fifo" > > modules="enhanceio_rand" > >

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/14/2017 12:43 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > I have added the following lines to  /etc/conf.d/modules > > modules="enhanceio" > modules="enhanceio_lru" > modules="enhanceio_fifo" > modules="enhanceio_rand" > "modules" is a variable name, and it's being overwritten on each line. The

[gentoo-user] Re: openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Helmut Jarausch: >I have added the following lines to /etc/conf.d/modules > >modules="enhanceio" >modules="enhanceio_lru" >modules="enhanceio_fifo" >modules="enhanceio_rand" > > >but these modules don't get loaded at boot time. Looking in my /etc/conf.d/modules there are # for a list of

[gentoo-user] openrc : autoload kernel modules

2017-12-14 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, could anybody please explain me how to setup autoloading of some kernel modules of mine. I'm using openrc. My modules reside in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/enhanceio/ . I have added the following lines to /etc/conf.d/modules modules="enhanceio" modules="enhanceio_lru"

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning the SSD

2017-12-14 Thread Andrey Utkin
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 05:20:18PM +0100, Alain Didierjean wrote: > Just about to install gentoo on a used SSD (Samsung SSD 840 120G). > How to proceed to get a clean, like new SSD ? > Could the --security-erase or --security-erase-enhanced hdparm options do the > job or should I use something

[gentoo-user] Cleaning the SSD

2017-12-14 Thread Alain Didierjean
Just about to install gentoo on a used SSD (Samsung SSD 840 120G). How to proceed to get a clean, like new SSD ? Could the --security-erase or --security-erase-enhanced hdparm options do the job or should I use something more sophisticated (or more efficient) ?

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-13 10:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: > A good healthy dose of manners like your Mama taught you is in short > supply around here right now. The worst insults are stated without any foul language. Indeed, I'll say that in general "insulting" is an attribute of ideas, not of words. Some of

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-14 11:57, Marc Joliet wrote: > I could list specific features of systemd that I like and make use of > (such as socket activation, autofs integration, user units, nspawn, or > the journal), but thinking about it, it's a "more than the sum of its > parts" kind of deal. Managing a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Hartmut Figge wrote: > I can imagine that finding the issue was tricky. It was hard to trace as the problem is a result of a non-matching variable <-> format string in the option parser and the incorrect variable was not "outfd" but "userverbose". Jörg --

[gentoo-user] Re: xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Joerg Schilling: >Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Starting xcdroast with -d 10 shows the problem: >> >> DGB1: spawning: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDDA2WAV -D "2,1,0" >> -J -g -Q -H -v toc,summary,sectors,titles >> DGB10: readtoc: cdda2wav: Invalid argument. Cannot open output

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Perhaps you create an strace log and I'll compare that to one on my > machine. > My whole machine is on "Gentoo unstable" - though it's very stable. Since the problem is an "int" variable that should have been "long", there is no chance to detect

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017, 20:37:47 CET schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > > > I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal > > > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. It > > > was forced on people. But being forced to have a binary system log, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-14 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 12/13/2017 10:24:14 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Helmut Jarausch: >On 12/13/2017 07:36:54 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >I have app-cdr/cdrtools 3.02_alpha07-r1 installed here. At the moment 3.02_alpha06, but I've tested the unstable version of cdrtools also. >Did you go to 'Setup' / 'Device-Scan'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Hartmut Figge wrote: > Helmut Jarausch: > >On 12/13/2017 07:36:54 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > > >I have app-cdr/cdrtools 3.02_alpha07-r1 installed here. > > At the moment 3.02_alpha06, but I've tested the unstable version of > cdrtools also. You need at least 3.02a08 that has

Re: [gentoo-user] xcdroast 0.98alpha16: Empty CD

2017-12-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Hartmut Figge wrote: > Greetings, > > on my current machine xcdroast fails to recognize an inserted CD in the > CD-reader. I do not often burn CDs and had switched to cdw which works > fine. Nevertheless, xcdroast was once my favorite and I am curious. :) > > Starting xcdroast