Re: [gentoo-user] single core athlon?

2018-01-07 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
Thank you, I only tried another distro for quick checking of hardware.  current bsd (at least netbsd) doesn't so i figured that if it's possible at all Gentoo would be the way to go, besides i prefer to only use one distro at a time, though i've spent some time with 3 brands of mainframe all

Re: [gentoo-user] single core athlon?

2018-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
I have one of those under my desk at home. Finally switched it off for the last time about 2 months ago. So yes, you can run 64 bit Gentoo on it just fine. Make the appropriate changes in make.conf and away you go. Just because distro X does not support cpu Y in mode Z does not mean that the

Re: [gentoo-user] microcode applied?

2018-01-07 Thread Adam Carter
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Max Zettlmeißl wrote: > > The contents of cpuinfo is the same as the messages in dmesg. What does > that > > imply? > > Your BIOS or EFI might already install the same version or a later > version than what the microcode package provides.

Re: [gentoo-user] microcode applied?

2018-01-07 Thread Max Zettlmeißl
> The contents of cpuinfo is the same as the messages in dmesg. What does that > imply? Your BIOS or EFI might already install the same version or a later version than what the microcode package provides. Although the second case is highly unlikely. The update might also just not get applied

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread Adam Carter
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:46 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows > as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > Its been reported they said they will "provide firmware updates by the end of next week

Re: [gentoo-user] microcode applied?

2018-01-07 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
There is also a test program to see if the vulnerability is there, i'd definately check that as well, best to check both considering how terrible the but is.  frankly amd and intel will still have software vulnerabilities, particular apps are being patched but if an exploit is developed in the

Re: [gentoo-user] microcode applied?

2018-01-07 Thread Adam Carter
> > The easiest way to check whether the microcode update was applied > correctly would be to check the microcode version in /proc/cpuinfo > The contents of cpuinfo is the same as the messages in dmesg. What does that imply?

Re: [gentoo-user] microcode applied?

2018-01-07 Thread Max Zettlmeißl
> Does the absence of a "microcode updated" message in dmesg imply that the > microcode was not updated? Not necessarily. > Is there a way to turn on debugging? The easiest way to check whether the microcode update was applied correctly would be to check the microcode version in /proc/cpuinfo

[gentoo-user] microcode applied?

2018-01-07 Thread Adam Carter
Does the absence of a "microcode updated" message in dmesg imply that the microcode was not updated? I believe my fam10/barcelona AMD CPU will use amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin but there's no update message. I've checked the config against another system that works and cant see any errors. Is

[gentoo-user] single core athlon?

2018-01-07 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
Does any body know if it's possible to set up gentoo on a single core 64 bit athlon, old socket 754?  I tried another distro and it said it didn't support non-smp 64 bit.  If not i'll have to put some 32 bit os on it.  I'm planning to use it mostly for a local boot server for os installs or

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread R0b0t1
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 20:46:52 GMT taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows > as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > > It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a > problem that was their fault

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 20:46:52 GMT taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows > as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. > > It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a > problem that was their

Re: [gentoo-user] linux-gazette masked: The total pollution of the output :)

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 22:25:55 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Sonntag, 7. Januar 2018, 19:31:52 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 19:08:59 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > everytime I emerge something, a LOONG list > > > of installed linux-gazettes is printed on my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux-gazette masked: The total pollution of the output :)

2018-01-07 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sonntag, 7. Januar 2018, 19:31:52 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 19:08:59 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > everytime I emerge something, a LOONG list > > of installed linux-gazettes is printed on my terminal, > > which warns me -- for each single gazette -- that it will >

[gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's

2018-01-07 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I have several sandy/ivybridge CPU's and I was wondering if anyone knows as to if intel is releasing microcode updates for them. It sure would be funny if intel wanted you to buy a new CPU to fix a problem that was their fault to begin with.

Re: [gentoo-user] linux-gazette masked: The total pollution of the output :)

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 19:08:59 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > everytime I emerge something, a LOONG list > of installed linux-gazettes is printed on my terminal, > which warns me -- for each single gazette -- that it will > be masked. > > To find the real output in all this mess is at least

[gentoo-user] linux-gazette masked: The total pollution of the output :)

2018-01-07 Thread tuxic
Hi, everytime I emerge something, a LOONG list of installed linux-gazettes is printed on my terminal, which warns me -- for each single gazette -- that it will be masked. To find the real output in all this mess is at least difficylt. Is there a way to supress that output other than

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2018 17:45, Melleus wrote: > Melleus writes: > >> Neil Bothwick writes: >> >>> On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:46:25 +0200, Melleus wrote: >>> > What do the logs say? That's all I could find in syslog: connmand[6709]: Aborting

[gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-07 Thread Melleus
Melleus writes: > Neil Bothwick writes: > >> On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:46:25 +0200, Melleus wrote: >> >>> > What do the logs say? >>> That's all I could find in syslog: >>> >>> connmand[6709]: Aborting (signal 11) [/usr/sbin/connmand] >>> >>> > Can

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 13:45:49 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 13:05:20 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Hmm ... according to Wikipedia it was conceived in the 19th century, > > > > well before the World Wars. Canada was the first place where DST > > > > was introduced, in

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 13:05:20 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > > Hmm ... according to Wikipedia it was conceived in the 19th century, > > > well before the World Wars. Canada was the first place where DST > > > was introduced, in Ontario only. Tis true nevertheless that the > > > German

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-07 Thread zless
În ziua de duminică, 7 ianuarie 2018, la 03:09:32 EET, Mart Raudsepp a scris: > > To me this reads as readline-7.0_p3 depends on libs from readline- > > 6.3. > > > > Smells a bit as some sort of bug. Try rebuilding readline? > > > > This didn't happen here when readline was bumped. > > This is

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:33:53 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:25:07 +, Mick wrote: > > > Although it was actually introduce, first by Germany then by Britain, > > > in 1915 to improve productivity for the war effort. Britain also > > > introduced licencing hours at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

2018-01-07 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017, 18:13:21 CET schrieb Jörg Schaible: > Am Thu, 21 Dec 2017 13:00:47 +0100 schrieb Marc Joliet: > > Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017, 10:45:41 CET schrieb Jörg Schaible: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Am Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:07:08 -0500 schrieb John Blinka: > >> > On Mon, Dec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to resume 'emerge -e @world' after grub fails?

2018-01-07 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017, 18:02:22 CET schrieb John Covici: > I have been doing explicit packages as stated in another thread here > and I just delete all the lines before the one that fails. I did not > want to use --keep-going because I really did want to fix things as > they came up,

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:25:07 +, Mick wrote: > > Although it was actually introduce, first by Germany then by Britain, > > in 1915 to improve productivity for the war effort. Britain also > > introduced licencing hours at the same time to avoid workers turning > > up hungover. > > Hmm ...

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 12:06:28 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 11:51:33 +, Mick wrote: > > > > That was apparently after the white man tried to explain to him > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > "advantages" of Daylight Saving Time. > > > > > > Yes. Which, of course it

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 11:51:33 +, Mick wrote: > > > That was apparently after the white man tried to explain to him > > > the > > > > > > "advantages" of Daylight Saving Time. > > > > Yes. Which, of course it doesn't. Save anything, I mean. > > It 'saves' the socio-economic model

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Mick
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 11:18:36 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:46:00 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 09:50:59PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > > > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 18:34:36 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:00:14

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 11:18:36 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Then there's that old one about the Native American chief who > > > observed that only a white man could think that cutting a foot off > > > the bottom of a blanket and sewing it onto the top would give him a > > > longer blanket.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Owncloud got completely broken after update

2018-01-07 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2017, 21:06:20 CET schrieb Melleus: > So I have just done. Thankfully I use it only for myself, so all I had > to do to migrate is just resync my devices. I installed NC from scratch > and it works out of the box. Though it throws some warnings in its web > interface: it

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LINGUAS make.conf variable being ignored?

2018-01-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:46:00 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 09:50:59PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > On Saturday, 6 January 2018 18:34:36 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:00:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > grep linguas_en

Re: [gentoo-user] Running 3rd-party Ubuntu apps on Gentoo

2018-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 03:48:45 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > 2) Install Ubuntu in a second partition and install the apps there. > Then under Gentoo, mount that partition and run the app binaries > in situ after setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to make sure the app finds > the Ubuntu

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-07 Thread Hartmut Figge
Mart Raudsepp: >Maybe there is just an old ruby:2.1 SLOT installed, that hasn't been >properly depcleaned? Indeed. i5-64 /home/hafi # emerge -p -c [...] dev-lang/ruby selected: 2.1.9 protected: none omitted: 2.2.9 [...] After depclean, which required another @preserved-rebuild,