[gentoo-user] ssh from linux to Windows

2024-01-06 Thread thelma
I installed openssh server on Windows 11 and tried to ssh to it using the id_rsa.pub key but I didn't have luck.  I copied the key to .ssh\authorized_keys file. On linux the last line ending with "\"  on Windows Notepad replaces it with the "+" sign. ssh with password is working  but windows

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2024 00:54:12 GMT Adam Carter wrote: > > > So if it's consistently gcc that collapses to two threads, then > > > something (maybe explicit settings, maybe dependencies, maybe yadda > > > yadda) is telling make that only two jobs can run at the same time else > > > they'll trip

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Adam Carter
> > > So if it's consistently gcc that collapses to two threads, then > > something (maybe explicit settings, maybe dependencies, maybe yadda > > yadda) is telling make that only two jobs can run at the same time else > > they'll trip over each other. > > > > Could be a dev has hard-coded the "two

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:28:05 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > Statistics is one of those areas where, if you don't know what you're > doing and you use the wrong maths, then you are going to get stupid results. > > "Statistics tell you how to get from A to B. What they don't tell you is > that

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:31:59 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a > >> hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back > >> and waits. > > > > And that's how

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back and waits. And that's how the very first installation goes, with single-host distcc. Then, when it gets

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/01/2024 17:59, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 6 January 2024 16:21:30 GMT Wols Lists wrote: ... it's nothing to do with more power or whatever, it's down to simple statistics. If genloop guesses the statistical spread wrongly, it's going to mess up its estimates. Aren't you

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 16:26:49 GMT Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > Am 5. Januar 2024 23:51:39 UTC schrieb Peter Humphrey : > >Hello list, > > > >I've just had some strange output from genlop on my 16-thread i5 box, thus: > > > ># genlop -t libreoffice | /bin/grep minute > > > > merge time:

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 16:21:30 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > ... it's nothing to do with more power or whatever, it's down to simple > statistics. If genloop guesses the statistical spread wrongly, it's > going to mess up its estimates. Aren't you exaggerating genlop's complexity? I wasn't aware

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 15:28:53 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the > exact same thing ... it's all down to parallelism. > > Make asks itself "how many separate tasks can I do at the same time, > which won't interfere with each

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Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

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Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Jack
On 1/6/24 11:21, Wols Lists wrote: On 06/01/2024 16:12, John Blinka wrote: And it doesn’t actually take 2x longer - the new estimate is just grossly wrong. I presume that the old estimate was also wrong. And it's nothing to do with more power or whatever, it's down to simple statistics. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Am 5. Januar 2024 23:51:39 UTC schrieb Peter Humphrey : >Hello list, > >I've just had some strange output from genlop on my 16-thread i5 box, thus: > ># genlop -t libreoffice | /bin/grep minute > merge time: 37 minutes and 38 seconds. > merge time: 52 minutes and 59 seconds. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/01/2024 16:12, John Blinka wrote: And it doesn’t actually take 2x longer - the new estimate is just grossly wrong. I presume that the old estimate was also wrong. And it's nothing to do with more power or whatever, it's down to simple statistics. If genloop guesses the statistical

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread John Blinka
On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 3:56 AM Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/2024 00:54, John Blinka wrote: > > I’ve often found that it gives one estimate when multiple packages are > > being built, then a much longer estimate for still-in-progress builds > > once some of the builds have finished. > > > > That

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/11/2023 12:06, Peter Humphreey wrote: The contribution of distcc isn't clear to me yet, as I said before. Sometimes it's the bee's knees; other times it might just as well not be there. I don't like mysteries...  As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:44:20 GMT Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:06:15 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > > > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. > > > As > > > a package or more

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:06:15 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. As > > a package or more finished emerging, libreoffice's turn comes up. Soon > > libreoffice

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/01/2024 00:54, John Blinka wrote: I’ve often found that it gives one estimate when multiple packages are being built, then a much longer estimate for still-in-progress builds once some of the builds have finished. That result defies common sense. Less remaining work has to take less,