[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get Snap working

2024-06-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 18/06/2024 12:00, Michael wrote: On Monday, 17 June 2024 16:43:04 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: So Skype for Linux isn't updated anymore other than its Snap version. So I tried to install that by following the instructions here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Snap As well as here for

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 20:06:17 BST Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On interrupting one such hang, I found that 32 install jobs had been > > waiting to run; is this limit hard coded? I also saw "too many jobs" or > > something, and "could not read job

[gentoo-user] Bash, PS1, alias and how it works now.

2024-06-20 Thread Dale
Howdy, On my new rig, I'm trying to set up the PS1 and alias variables.  I found the bash page on the Gentoo wiki but it seems to detail doing it for each user in their home directories.  Since I'm the only one using this rig, I prefer to set it globally and have the commands behave the same way

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/20/24 12:07 PM, Jack wrote: > Again, I don't know if it matters in this case, but my understanding is > that MAKEOPTS only affects jobs using make.  I don't know if there are > equivalent controls for ninja or other build systems. Might that be > relevant here?  If you run top, limit to

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding > the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. I have this > set: > > $ grep '\-j' /etc/portage/make.conf > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 16:29:11 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40:12 BST Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > > > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/06/2024 16:29, Peter Humphrey wrote: Anyway, it still rankles that I can't use more than half the machine's power because of limits in portage. This can't be the only 64GiB machine in gentoo- land, surely. Well, I think my machine has 4x32GiB slots, and two are full, so that makes 64GiB

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Jack
On 6/20/24 11:29 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40:12 BST Michael wrote: On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding the system stalling

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40:12 BST Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > > > finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > > finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. > > I have this set: > > > > $

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > > finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. > > I have this set: > > > > $

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Jack
On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. I have this set: $ grep '\-j' /etc/portage/make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs

[gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. I have this set: $ grep '\-j' /etc/portage/make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs --load-average=30 [...]" MAKEOPTS="-j16 -l16" The CPU has

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma 6

2024-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 08:01:54 BST jdm wrote: > I decided to uninstall, then do a sync and then install again but now > getting lots of soft blocks. Think I'll wait until it's not in testing. I had just started building a new KDE system on my Ryzen M9 box, starting with no USE flags set,

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma 6

2024-06-20 Thread jdm
Thanks, I decided to uninstall, then do a sync and then install again but now getting lots of soft blocks. Think I'll wait until it's not in testing. John On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:47:49 -0500 Dale wrote: > jdm wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've installed KDE Plasma 6 (plasma-meta) and all packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma 6

2024-06-19 Thread Dale
jdm wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed KDE Plasma 6 (plasma-meta) and all packages have built > with no problem but whenever I start in wayland session it crashes out > after a couple of seconds of logging in. X sessions works with no > problems. > > So wondering if this is problem with just my PC

Re: [gentoo-user] Video card temp and fan sensors.

2024-06-19 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
With nvidia driver, you have to use nvidia-smi utility to get that information. While the driver takes over the hardware, no other type of software can access same sensors. So when using nvidia-drivers, no ssensors command. On 6/19/2024 10:30 PM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I got the new Nvidia

[gentoo-user] Video card temp and fan sensors.

2024-06-19 Thread Dale
Howdy, I got the new Nvidia Quadro P1000 video card in the other day.  I got it installed.  I was using the nouveau drivers in the kernel.  They weren't up to the task.  The display was slow and the mouse pointer was also slow to respond and jerky like.  So, I downloaded and installed the Nvidia

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma 6

2024-06-19 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 19 June 2024 08:58:52 BST jdm wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed KDE Plasma 6 (plasma-meta) and all packages have built > with no problem but whenever I start in wayland session it crashes out > after a couple of seconds of logging in. X sessions works with no > problems. > > So

[gentoo-user] Plasma 6

2024-06-19 Thread jdm
Hello, I've installed KDE Plasma 6 (plasma-meta) and all packages have built with no problem but whenever I start in wayland session it crashes out after a couple of seconds of logging in. X sessions works with no problems. So wondering if this is problem with just my PC or a more general issue

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Snap working

2024-06-18 Thread Michael
On Monday, 17 June 2024 16:43:04 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > So Skype for Linux isn't updated anymore other than its Snap version. So > I tried to install that by following the instructions here: > >https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Snap > > As well as here for AppArmor: > > >

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 17 June 2024 13:39:35 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. > > Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway > was impossible because you'd have no moderator left? No,

[gentoo-user] Can't get Snap working

2024-06-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
So Skype for Linux isn't updated anymore other than its Snap version. So I tried to install that by following the instructions here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Snap As well as here for AppArmor: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Security_Handbook/Linux_Security_Modules/AppArmor After I did

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Dale
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Wol. > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 13:39:35 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. >> Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway >> was impossible

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Wol. On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 13:39:35 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: > On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. > Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway > was impossible because you'd have no

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/06/2024 12:17, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Sadly, the FBR never made it into commercial deployment. Was that the one with the heavy water moderator? So a thermal runaway was impossible because you'd have no moderator left? Cheers, Wol

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-17 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Peter. On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 23:52:15 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 20:39:52 BST Wol wrote: > > ... Back in the ancient days, you had a switch panel you toggled to put in > > the boot code. > I remember that. It was 1974. 24 key switches and lots of buttons.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-17 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > > I have to say, mobos and CPUs have come a long ways since my last build > about 10 or 11 years ago.  When the ASUS first booted and I went into > the BIOS thing, is it still called BIOS, it was very different.  I think > my current rig allows you to use the mouse.  It's slow tho. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/06/2024 21:10, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Why didn't you keep a copy of the old file? Because that's one of the itsy-bitsy routine things that ought to be automatic, not something that each user should have to think out for himself. Dunno which update tool it is, but istr there is a tool

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Uefi + uki stuck while booting (/dev/gpt-auto-root)

2024-06-17 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2024, 12:59:54 CEST Michael wrote: > I'm not the right person to comment reliably on this, because I don't use > systemd and do not use LVM, but until someone else chimes in I'll give it a > go ... :-) > I found the solution for my specific setup (lvm+luks+secureboot:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/16/24 7:22 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/2024 23:39, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> And of course, all the rules get bent by the various >>> manufacturers. Bear in mind that basic EFI predates vFAT so even in >>> UEFI vFAT isn't actually mandatory. Apple don't use it, iirc. There's >>> nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 16/06/2024 09:40, Michael wrote: >> Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on >> temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong >> info. >> Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room.  It showed >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/2024 09:40, Michael wrote: Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye on temps for a bit. I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room. It showed like 100F or something when my A/C is set to 68F or so.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/2024 23:39, Nuno Silva wrote: And of course, all the rules get bent by the various manufacturers. Bear in mind that basic EFI predates vFAT so even in UEFI vFAT isn't actually mandatory. Apple don't use it, iirc. There's nothing stopping GNU's OpenBIOS project or whatever it is using

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 20:39:52 BST Wol wrote: > ... Back in the ancient days, you had a switch panel you toggled to put in > the boot code. I remember that. It was 1974. 24 key switches and lots of buttons. You set an address on the key switches and hit SET, then ditto its contents and STORE.

[gentoo-user] Re: Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-06-16, Wol wrote: > On 15/06/2024 20:35, Dale wrote: >> I'm not opposed to efi.  I remember when the old Grub reached its >> end of life. Grub2 is different but it works.  I don't use the eye >> candy part so that makes it even easier.  The biggest thing, I copy >> my kernels and such

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-16 Thread Wol
On 15/06/2024 20:35, Dale wrote: I'm not opposed to efi.  I remember when the old Grub reached its end of life. Grub2 is different but it works.  I don't use the eye candy part so that makes it even easier.  The biggest thing, I copy my kernels and such over manually and I keep a couple older

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: >> Besides, for the wattage >> the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler >> is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think >> or maybe 95. > So, I am just picking someplace

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > Dale - sorry to bother you. > > Mark No bother at all.  Could learn something.  FYI.  I read most every post on this list.  Unless it is something I know absolutely nothing about or don't use at all, I read the posts.  I just might learn something.  I might add, stress-ng

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 14:35:34 BST Dale wrote: > >> I mentioned I found the correct drivers for the CPU and other temps >> sensors but needed to reboot. > What sensors are you using now? I just rely on what gkrellm finds; where it > shows more than one CPU or GPU temp I

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: > > Besides, for the wattage > the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler > is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think > or maybe 95. So, I am just picking someplace a little random to reply

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 5:59 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 04:07:28PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > >Now, the fun part. I wrote you a little Python program which on > > my system is called Dales_Loop.py. This program has 3 > > parameters - a value to count to, the

[gentoo-user] Re: Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-06-14, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Netfab. > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 18:22:11 +0200, netfab wrote: >> Le 14/06/24 à 17:53, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : >> > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get >> > the older standard file contents back again, so as to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 14:35:34 BST Dale wrote: > I mentioned I found the correct drivers for the CPU and other temps > sensors but needed to reboot. What sensors are you using now? I just rely on what gkrellm finds; where it shows more than one CPU or GPU temp I choose the highest one. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:40:57 BST you wrote: >> On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: >>> William Kenworthy wrote: On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > happy. > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 04:07:28PM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: >Now, the fun part. I wrote you a little Python program which on > my system is called Dales_Loop.py. This program has 3 > parameters - a value to count to, the number of cores to be used, > and a timeout value to stop the program.

Re: [gentoo-user] Clang update with musl

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 12:39:40 BST efeizbu...@disroot.org wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've been trying to update my clang but I keep getting linking errors. > I'm on the default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/musl profile. My system > has been acting kind of weird ever since the profile updates 17 ->

[gentoo-user] Clang update with musl

2024-06-16 Thread efeizbudak
Hi everyone, I've been trying to update my clang but I keep getting linking errors. I'm on the default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/musl profile. My system has been acting kind of weird ever since the profile updates 17 -> 23. Can anyone point me in the right direction here? emerge --info

Re: [gentoo-user] Uefi + uki stuck while booting (/dev/gpt-auto-root)

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
I'm not the right person to comment reliably on this, because I don't use systemd and do not use LVM, but until someone else chimes in I'll give it a go ... :-) On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:04:26 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > Hi there, > > I just tried to prepare my new laptop for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 09:40:57 BST you wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: > > William Kenworthy wrote: > > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > > >> > > >> happy. > > >> > > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 16 June 2024 05:55:45 BST Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >> > >> > I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm > >> > >> happy. > >> > >> > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye

[gentoo-user] Uefi + uki stuck while booting (/dev/gpt-auto-root)

2024-06-16 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi there, I just tried to prepare my new laptop for UFEI+secureboot by creating a single unified kernel image including kernel,initrd,microcode,etc. NB: The partition layout has a vfat/Efi partition and a luks encrypted lvm container holding SYS(Root), Data(home) and swap. I added uki and

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> > I still don't understand the efi thing.  I'm booted up tho.  I'm >> happy. >> > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on >> > temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread William Kenworthy
On 16/6/24 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > I still don't understand the efi thing.  I'm booted up tho.  I'm happy. > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work.  I want to keep a eye on > temps for a bit.  I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. > Even the ambient temp was to high for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Mark Knecht
> I still don't understand the efi thing. I'm booted up tho. I'm happy. > Now to get temp sensors and stuff to work. I want to keep a eye on > temps for a bit. I think the boot media was reporting the wrong info. > Even the ambient temp was to high for this cool room. It showed like > 100F

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 23:00:07 BST Jack wrote: > A bit of searching found the wiki page for dispatch-conf, which > includes: > > Before running dispatch-conf for the first time, the settings in > /etc/dispatch-conf.conf should be edited, and the archive directory > specified in

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Jack
On 2024.06.15 02:38, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 04:54:09PM -0400, Jack wrote: > I don't have any such directory. What package does it belong to, or is > it a config setting for portage or another package? Yes, it is a configuration of portage itself. There is an env

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 12:01:26 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> b) Using a bootloader: >>> >>> Mount your ESP under the /efi mountpoint. GRUB et al, will install their >>> .efi image in the /efi/EFI/ directory. You can have your /boot as a >>> directory on your /

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Vitaliy. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 21:25:23 +0300, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 03:53:35PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard > > version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences >

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Netfab. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 19:52:32 +0200, netfab wrote: > Le 14/06/24 à 19:33, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? > Else, everything is also available from gentoo.org : > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:33:54 BST Dale wrote: > >> (chroot) livecd / # cat /etc/env.d/02locale >> # Configuration file for eselect >> # This file has been automatically generated. >> LANG="en_US.UTF8" >> #LC_ALL="en_US.UTF8" >> (chroot) livecd / # >> >> I commented out the

[gentoo-user] Re: Arrow and edit keys?

2024-06-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-15, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:20:26 BST Alan Grimes wrote: >> A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't >> use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill >> to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? > > I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Arrow and edit keys?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:20:26 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't > use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill > to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? I don't understand what is the "edit mode" you

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 17:55:17 BST Michael wrote: --->8 Thanks, but I'll stick to what I know if you don't mind. -- Regards, Peter.

[gentoo-user] Keyboard still...

2024-06-15 Thread Alan Grimes
Lets go back to square 1. The keyboard is the most fundamental device ever, it was invented about 80 years before anyone figured out how to connect it to a computer, before the computer even existed actually The fundamental AT 101 keyboard, or microsoft's gay variant the PC-104, and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:33:54 BST Dale wrote: > (chroot) livecd / # cat /etc/env.d/02locale > # Configuration file for eselect > # This file has been automatically generated. > LANG="en_US.UTF8" > #LC_ALL="en_US.UTF8" > (chroot) livecd / # > > I commented out the LC_ALL thinking it might

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:09:18 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: Howdy, I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output.

[gentoo-user] Arrow and edit keys?

2024-06-15 Thread Alan Grimes
A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? -- You can't out-crazy a Democrat. #EggCrisis #BlackWinter White is the new Kulak. Powers are not rights.

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:09:18 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config > >> sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output. > >> > >> > >> > >> (chroot)

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config >> sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output. >> >> >> >> (chroot) livecd / # emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data >> >> >> Configuring pkg...

Re: [gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:27 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I got down to the time zone part. When I try to run emerge --config > sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output. > > > > (chroot) livecd / # emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data > > > Configuring pkg... > > Traceback (most

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 18:24:04 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:39:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > > > The maximum temperature at which your CPU die with its 65W TDP starts > > throttling to keep its temperatures safe is 100°C TjMax. Look at the > > TJunction number here: > >

[gentoo-user] Keep getting LC_ALL error during install.

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Howdy, I got down to the time zone part.  When I try to run emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data I get this output.  (chroot) livecd / # emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data Configuring pkg... Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python-exec/python3.12/emerge", line 57,

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 12:39:09PM +0100, Michael wrote > The maximum temperature at which your CPU die with its 65W TDP starts > throttling to keep its temperatures safe is 100°C TjMax. Look at the > TJunction number here: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Wol
On 14/06/2024 18:39, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Does etc-update or dispatch-conf not give you the option to selectively update and/or to diff the file? In theory, yes. In practice, dispatch-conf just offers a single ~130-line long hunk, which is useless for distinguishing wanted pieces of code

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 16:28:29 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 13:01:33 BST Dale wrote: > > Could you share the boot screen again? > > New version attached... > > > I used lilo ages ago then switched to Grub. Grub is massive but it works > > well enough. > > ...as

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Wol
On 14/06/2024 16:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences with a 3-way diff. Is it portage itself that DID the update, or it did it tell you to do the update with

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 12:01:26 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > b) Using a bootloader: > > > > Mount your ESP under the /efi mountpoint. GRUB et al, will install their > > .efi image in the /efi/EFI/ directory. You can have your /boot as a > > directory on your / partition, or on its

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 14/06/2024 14:53, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:49:57PM -0500, Dale wrote model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400 CPU @ 2.90GHz Specs for your CPU are here:

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Here's the output of parted -l on my main NVMe disk in case it helps: >>> >>> Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB (nvme) >>> Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 250GB >>> Sector size (logical/physical):

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Friday, 14 June 2024 20:53:04 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 11:54:52AM +0100, Michael wrote > > > I would think 46-48°C is refreshingly cool, but it very much depends > > on the CPU chip, the MoBo and its BIOS/microcode settings. > > I looked up my CPU (see my reply to

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 14 June 2024 18:33:57 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? Your backup from last week? :) -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 14 June 2024 16:16:09 BST Michael wrote: > Liquid cooling would have made it as quiet as a church mouse. ;-) I have a machine here with liquid cooling, and over its few years it's become deafening under full load (24 simultaneous floating-point physics applications). It is quiet

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Here's the output of parted -l on my main NVMe disk in case it helps: > > > > Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB (nvme) > > Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 250GB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table:

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest > >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a > >> separate partition.

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
-- Original Message -- From "Paul Colquhoun" To gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date 15.06.2024 01:43:22 Subject Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc You edited the old file, not portage. Why didn't you keep a copy of the old file? I have this in the crontabs

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-15 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a >> separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty >> for

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-15 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 04:54:09PM -0400, Jack wrote: > I don't have any such directory. What package does it belong to, or is > it a config setting for portage or another package? Yes, it is a configuration of portage itself. There is an env variable CONFIG_PROTECT that contains a list of

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-14 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > Update, number 1.  The CPU finally came in.  It was supposed to be here Monday, finally left the hub on Wednesday morning, went to the wrong post office.  This morning, it finally made it to the right post office and arrived in

[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Walter Dnes
It's been a productive day today. TIL (Today I Learned)... 1) Turning off "hyperthreads" in the BIOS, and getting a more secure system, without noticable speed impact. 2) Turning off "TurboBoost" in the BIOS. Yes, boost will speed up short bursts like compiling the kernel by going to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Jack
On 2024.06.14 14:25, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 03:53:35PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard > version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences > with a 3-way diff. Before replace

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU frequency governors and temperatures

2024-06-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 11:54:52AM +0100, Michael wrote > I would think 46-48°C is refreshingly cool, but it very much depends > on the CPU chip, the MoBo and its BIOS/microcode settings. I looked up my CPU (see my reply to Dale). The max temp allowed is 71.3 C. A short kernel compile is one

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 03:53:35PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I think portage is at fault here - it should retain the older standard > version of /etc/bash/bashrc so that users can resolve the differences > with a 3-way diff. Before replace your old bashrc file, portage place the old one

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 19:39 Alan Mackenzie wrote: Maybe I should submit a feature request to Gentoo's bugzilla. > Occasionally a package updates a file in /etc/, and I can't remember whether the file was modified by me or not. This usually happens with things I don't completely understand and

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread netfab
Le 14/06/24 à 19:33, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? Else, everything is also available from gentoo.org : https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/app-shells/bash/files/bashrc Click on plain to get the raw version.

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread netfab
Le 14/06/24 à 19:33, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > Are these files freely available, anywhere, perhaps? > And if you try to get the raw version with wget ? > $ cd /tmp > $ wget > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gentoo/gentoo/master/app-shells/bash/files/bashrc

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Mike. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 17:19:31 +0100, Mike Civil wrote: > On 14/06/2024 17:00, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get the > > older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do this > > 3-way diff? > Does

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Netfab. On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 18:22:11 +0200, netfab wrote: > Le 14/06/24 à 17:53, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get > > the older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do > > this 3-way diff? > The old

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty with updating /etc/basb/bashrc

2024-06-14 Thread netfab
Le 14/06/24 à 17:53, Alan Mackenzie a tapoté : > Right now, I have a problem. Is there any convenient way I can get > the older standard file contents back again, so as to be able to do > this 3-way diff? The old bashrc file installed by previous versions of the ebuild :

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