Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:59:59 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote: And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world: one have non-standard binaries, not available

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
to maintain. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpkbel_Wkp06.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
by qualified professionals, this will only hinder their approach, but binary based distributions will not provide any advantage here either. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpdyWR4NlZ8L.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
an appropriate job. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpiEf5yXsVgJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
modules. Of course this goal will be never achieved as-is, but one may consider it as an asymptote of their actions. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpef2uhhHI0s.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Andrew Savchenko
_on_ start. Some may just crash and will be restarted (though not all services may be restarted after crash without manual interaction, e.g. some DB setups may fail badly), while other may loose some functionality and continue to work. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpgPnRlfgeDk.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-user] Why WordPress is masked?

2014-02-19 Thread Andrew Savchenko
on my ~x86 and ~amd64 boxes. Probably you have stable amd64 setup. Unmasking is generally safe in such cases, though if you'll mix stable and unstable packages too much you may have unforeseen consequences. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpdKbIpCtX_5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
know what it is: everything's free but nothing to choose from. We had it before, it's called communism. Maybe it is not that bad but we don't want it anymore. (Really? A cold war reference?) Yes, we have a software^Wcorporation war right upon us. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpPRQOqUQGFy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
by the fly without preliminary planning) and a lot of religious statements. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpko_nMZl2xr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
! Frankly, I have doubts he is unpayed. Though as long as arguments are technical this doesn't matter. Though when arguments are down to Said who? Listen to the Oracle! it starts to. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgp3mkVhNVMFr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
as an example of its flawed nature. Though as we know these days such systems exist and are quite well used in numerous experiments. My point is simple: do not blindly adhere to someone's words, even if this person has high authority. Common sense must prevail. Period. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
, this is no way to go. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpOjpSt4fW_y.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
profile, you need to use systemd. Or to create a non-systemd profile :) Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpKEksCQfVOx.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
. And all that science was ignored during systemd architecture process if there was any at all. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpPqKWNVnvHI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
. That the real reason I despise systemd: in replaces the freedom of choice by a dictatorship of a small bunch of managers of a single corporation (yes, managers, not developers). And all this is under the veil of GPL and technical merits. This is the poison in the well of FOSS. Best regards, Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:52:33 -0500 Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-02-17 12:52 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: And this is a very, very bad idea. Looks like you don't know matter at all: to begin with kdbus protocol is NOT compatible dbus and special converter daemon will be needed

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd

2014-02-09 Thread Andrew Savchenko
. Other alternative is to add sys-apps/systemd to package.provided, though the effect will be the same as above. And you may switch to some other DE/WM of course. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpc2mNVuTez1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-02-02 Thread Andrew Savchenko
should be awesome on modern multi-core CPUs. And I'm sure this is a doable task (on a first glance analyse subtrees first then join), but this issue requires further and deeper investigation. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpzv2pb2yd7N.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-31 Thread Andrew Savchenko
, Andrew Savchenko pgpZwwW6J9EA7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-31 Thread Andrew Savchenko
(distcc is my friend here). Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpnG9flBECe4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-31 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:13:21 + Mick wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2014 19:03:05 Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:30:19 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: [...] I'm willing to give up 4 minutes while emerge runs so I don't have to spend many more minutes right afterwards doing manually

Re: [gentoo-user] to nest commands

2013-11-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
a definitive source to back up my claims :) The reason for $(...) being preferred is simple: you can nest $($($(...))), but you can't nest `...`. Deep nesting is quite useful indeed. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpv4whI_T8sT.pgp Description: PGP signature

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