Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Feb 2016 19:08:42 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> > Well my concern was more that SGX would provide leverage for even more >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-25 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 24 Feb 2016 19:08:42 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Well my concern was more that SGX would provide leverage for even more > > eavesdropping, rather than prohibit it. > > Yeah, I'm one of those persons who tends to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Well my concern was more that SGX would provide leverage for even more > eavesdropping, rather than prohibit it. > Yeah, I'm one of those persons who tends to consider most fears of TPMs and UEFI overblown, but these

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-24 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:28:03PM -0800, Max R.D. Parmer wrote: > It seems like SGX is intertwined with the Intel Management Engine, > Chapter 4 in Joanna Rutkowska's "Intel x86 considered harmful"[1] (pp. > 35) goes in-depth on the potential issues with Intel ME. > > That same book has some

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-23 Thread Max R.D. Parmer
It seems like SGX is intertwined with the Intel Management Engine, Chapter 4 in Joanna Rutkowska's "Intel x86 considered harmful"[1] (pp. 35) goes in-depth on the potential issues with Intel ME. That same book has some light discussion on SGX (pp. 20) but it seems like, if you are concerned about

[gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-23 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hello list so I was about to treat myself to a new Thinkpad. After malware, backdoor and BIOS rootkit stories at Lenovo’s (which to my knowledge were all Windows-only problems) I already started looking elsewhere and even considered bying a used model which existed before all this modern crap