Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-25 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:03:22 -0300 "Daniel da Veiga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously I was wrong. No point in arguing that. Meh, I don't see why we should all be held to formalized terms for everything. Understanding each other is the important thing, in my mind. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] m

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/24/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:28:16 +0100 > Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > > ... > > > Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or > > > anything, just a bridge to an

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:28:16 +0100 Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > ... > > Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or > > anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no > > config at all, they simpl

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a wired network. What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/24/07, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > ... > > I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't > > this device like a "dumb hub" on your wireless network? Mine doesn't > > have an IP, nor MAC or anything that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote: > I don't have access to a MS Windows machine right now, but using mtr I > get: > [snip . . .] > > 23. XX-XX-XXX-XX.dhcp.kgpt.tn.cha 6.7%15 145.5 145.4 143.2 > 146.9 1.3 > 24. ???

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 10/24/07, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm actually a little surprised to hear that yours > doesn't - how does one change the SSID & wireless encryption key, if > the AP has no IP address to connect to? > > Stroller. > Here at one of the University labs there is a REALLY old 802.11

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote: > > Thanks guys. The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the > > router (10.10.10.13). It also has a MAC. So it is simply a matter of > > forwarding (all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive fro

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Stroller
On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote: ... I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't this device like a "dumb hub" on your wireless network? Mine doesn't have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network. You're making assumptions that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote: > Thanks guys. The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the > router (10.10.10.13). It also has a MAC. So it is simply a matter of > forwarding (all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive from the Internet > to that LAN address. (On this implementat

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:12:07 -0400 > > "Mark Shields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Forwarding echo request/response packets (ICMP), maybe? > > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But wouldn't that require an IP? Or > at least -- at the very least -

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:12:07 -0400 "Mark Shields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forwarding echo request/response packets (ICMP), maybe? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But wouldn't that require an IP? Or at least -- at the very least -- a MAC address for Ethernet-layer transmission of some kin

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Mark Shields
On 10/23/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:27:10 -0300 > "Daniel da Veiga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't > > this device like a "dumb hub" on your wireless network? Mine doesn't > > have an

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:27:10 -0300 "Daniel da Veiga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't > this device like a "dumb hub" on your wireless network? Mine doesn't > have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/23/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am trying to troubleshoot two devices both behind the same IP address: > > Device A: a router > Device B: a wireless access point > > The network looks like this: > > Internet >> modem >> router >> AP > > Currently I have set up a firew

[gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-23 Thread Mick
Hi All, I am trying to troubleshoot two devices both behind the same IP address: Device A: a router Device B: a wireless access point The network looks like this: Internet >> modem >> router >> AP Currently I have set up a firewall rule in the router to forward all pings to the AP. The log