Re: Tweaks for SSDs [Was: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes]

2009-06-03 Thread Maxim Wexler
> Partioning scheme and formatting tricks for optimal performance: > http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/20/aligning-filesystems-to-an-ssds-erase-block-size/ Great resource. I wonder if any members found objections posted by 'starfry' at the bottom of the article worthy of consideration. Or did th

Re: Tweaks for SSDs [Was: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes]

2009-06-03 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:25:29 +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: > > > > Or I could try btrfs, which has an ssd mount option. > > > > Ugh. Even on-disk format is not finalized yet. > > That's OK, I'm not using it on my backup server : Sorry to send

Re: Tweaks for SSDs [Was: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes]

2009-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:25:29 +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: > > Or I could try btrfs, which has an ssd mount option. > > Ugh. Even on-disk format is not finalized yet. That's OK, I'm not using it on my backup server :) -- Neil Bothwick CAUTION: Do not install prior to installation. signature.

Re: Tweaks for SSDs [Was: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes]

2009-05-30 Thread Eray Aslan
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 02:40:34PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:06:04 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > > > Delaying commits with ext4 and/or laptop-mode will reduce the wear-down > > of your SSD but it might as well freeze your system when the actual > > commit takes place b

Re: Tweaks for SSDs [Was: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes]

2009-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:06:04 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > Delaying commits with ext4 and/or laptop-mode will reduce the wear-down > of your SSD but it might as well freeze your system when the actual > commit takes place because these things tend to have a terribly low > write performance. Tha

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:39:09 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > > I found the best way to deal with the Eee 900's two drives was to > > create a small root partition (I used 200M) and swap on sda. Then > > make the rest of sda and all of sdb into an LVM volume group. I still > > use ext3 for /, but it c

Tweaks for SSDs [Was: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes]

2009-05-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Maxim Wexler schrieb: > On 5/28/09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> On Donnerstag 28 Mai 2009, Florian Philipp wrote: >>> Maxim Wexler schrieb: Hi group, For a netbook 4G SSD. Attempting to install mozilla-firefox. jdk fails: No space left on device. df -i reveals no m

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-29 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:39:09 -0600 Maxim Wexler wrote: > Just got back from Circuit City or whatever it's called with a 16G SD > card and I'm steeling myself for the big task ahead. Just what do you > have under root? How did you format the rest? ext4 or reiserfs for root. reiserfs for portage

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-29 Thread Maxim Wexler
> I found the best way to deal with the Eee 900's two drives was to create > a small root partition (I used 200M) and swap on sda. Then make the rest > of sda and all of sdb into an LVM volume group. I still use ext3 for /, > but it contains so little that inodes are not an issue. You definitely >

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:32:58 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > tmpfs/tmptmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0 > > Does this have anything to do with the inode issue? Only that it reduces the number of inodes needed by mounting/tmp on a ramfs. > What's the best fs for a 4G SSD?

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-29 Thread Dale
Maxim Wexler wrote: > Ok, thanks everybody, getting ready to dive in and fix this thing. Two > more questions please: > > I modified the bottom of /etc/fstab to look like this according to a > post in the eee forum: > ... > #shm/dev/shmtmpfsnodev,sosuid,noexec 0 0 > tmpf

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-29 Thread Maxim Wexler
Ok, thanks everybody, getting ready to dive in and fix this thing. Two more questions please: I modified the bottom of /etc/fstab to look like this according to a post in the eee forum: ... #shm/dev/shmtmpfsnodev,sosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs/tmptmpfs defaul

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 28 Mai 2009, Florian Philipp wrote: > Maxim Wexler schrieb: > > Hi group, > > > > For a netbook 4G SSD. Attempting to install mozilla-firefox. jdk > > fails: No space left on device. > > > > df -i reveals no more inodes. I reboot thinking this will help. Wrong. > > Lots of 'No space l

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 28 May 2009 23:43:19 Maxim Wexler wrote: > > My advice: Save everything to another disk and then reformat the > > partition with a higher amount of inodes. > > Everything? Won't that copy over the extraneous inodes? You appear to not understand what an inode is. The inode IS THE FILE.

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Maxim Wexler
> My advice: Save everything to another disk and then reformat the > partition with a higher amount of inodes. Everything? Won't that copy over the extraneous inodes? > > This will create a file system with three times as many indoes as you > had before. Is 3x enough? I haven't even gotten off t

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 28 May 2009 17:46:03 Maxim Wexler wrote: > Hi group, > > For a netbook 4G SSD. Attempting to install mozilla-firefox. jdk > fails: No space left on device. > > df -i reveals no more inodes. I reboot thinking this will help. Wrong. > Lots of 'No space left on device messages' with refer

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Maxim Wexler schrieb: > Hi group, > > For a netbook 4G SSD. Attempting to install mozilla-firefox. jdk > fails: No space left on device. > > df -i reveals no more inodes. I reboot thinking this will help. Wrong. > Lots of 'No space left on device messages' with reference to > /var/lib/iinit.d/*

Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:46:03 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > I know 4G is pretty small by today's standards but apart from xorg and > firefox everything else on this unit is command-line type utilities > and such. That can't account for 4G already. It can if you have $DISTDIR and $PORTAGE_TMPDIR in

[gentoo-user] [ot] no more inodes

2009-05-28 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group, For a netbook 4G SSD. Attempting to install mozilla-firefox. jdk fails: No space left on device. df -i reveals no more inodes. I reboot thinking this will help. Wrong. Lots of 'No space left on device messages' with reference to /var/lib/iinit.d/* in the boot console. And this gem: '*E