Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-18 Thread KH
Stroller schrieb: On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives have hidden errors. The chances for this grow with the size

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-18 Thread KH
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Stroller wrote: On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-18 Thread KH
Iain Buchanan schrieb: On 17/12/08 19:57, KH wrote: Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 11:44, KH wrote: Stroller schrieb: On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives have hidden errors.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-18 Thread KH
Stroller schrieb: On 18 Dec 2008, at 11:44, KH wrote: Stroller schrieb: On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:24:27 -0800, Grant wrote: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so unless its another Biblical flood... -- Neil Bothwick Earlier, I didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Grant
I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does? They even protect in the event of theft

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:24:27 -0800, Grant wrote: They even protect in the event of theft or fire which RAID1 doesn't. Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) kh

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an SSD and SATA drive. I wonder what sort of issues the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Grant
Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an SSD and SATA drive. I wonder what sort of issues the disparity in

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does?

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so unless its another Biblical flood...

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:51 -0800, Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an SSD and SATA

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread KH
Grant schrieb: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does? They even protect in the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:30 -0800, kashani wrote: Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 02:24, Grant wrote: ... Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Everyone loves RAID1 because it backs up your data. Note the use of quotation marks. You stated that data throughput was a bottleneck for your system, so RAID1 may not give

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives have hidden errors. The chances for this grow with the size of the hd.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Stroller wrote: On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives have hidden errors. The

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:30 -0800, kashani wrote: Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On 17/12/08 19:57, KH wrote: Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so unless its another

[gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-16 Thread Grant
I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does? They even protect in the event of theft or

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-16 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does? They even protect in the event

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-16 Thread smallnow
Get the best of both worlds with raid 5. Personally, I do raid 0 and I agree with you on raid redundancy not being very useful. Backup ftw. I cycle out my hard drives every year or two and make the old ones be backups, I've only ever had the backups die. - Ian

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-16 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:45 PM, smallnow small...@gmail.com wrote: Get the best of both worlds with raid 5. Personally, I do raid 0 and I agree with you on raid redundancy not being very useful. Backup ftw. I cycle out my hard drives every year or two and make the old ones be backups, I've