Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:50:02PM +0100, pk wrote So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! I believe that 180 or 181 is the first version that requires /usr on / (or an initramfs or whatever). And that's why it's currently masked. --

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-12 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hello! 2012/3/11 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com: The next step was to remove /usr from /etc/fstab to prevent /usr from being mounted twice (the boot process does not like it). Mmmh. Could you try to use LABEL= in /etc/fstab (not /etc/fstab), and see if that way it gets mounted, and

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread pk
On 2012-03-11 03:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I thank both you and Neil for this info. In

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr. So what I did was to include the fstab-sys smodule in

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
2012/3/11 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com: Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root itself and /boot of

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) What's the point in using -v if you're not there to watch it? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Documentation: (n.) a

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears that the stage3 tarball

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system and it just griped.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 03:48, Dale wrote: Howdy, Howdy! this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, As long as you don't use the udev version that requires access to /usr at boot time (or mdev) then you

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 03:45 -0600, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate partition outside of LVM, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Todd Goodman
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120309 21:55]: Howdy, [..] [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs [0.880111] audit: initializing

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! That's one case; I would

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: * Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120309 21:55]: Howdy, [..] [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs [

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:50:02 +0100, pk wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! testing, not masked. Although it turns out that the latest in ~amd64 is the same

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Just posted to -devel,

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread John Blinka
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 10, 2012 10:38 AM, Neil Bothwick lt;n...@digimed.co.ukgt; wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: gt; Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm gt; running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions

[gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Dale
Howdy, Well, this is what I am thinking about jumping into. Ya'll ready for this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, /home, and such on LVM. I been using that dracut thingy to build the init

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, Well, this is what I am thinking about jumping into.  Ya'll ready for this?  I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout.  I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system.  I want to put /usr, /var, /home,

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, then dracut will mount it. It says nothing about LVM, but

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if