Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:26:12 -0500, Dale wrote: Weird huh? Can't win either way. Maybe we need a 60 day burn in period before being sold. That should help a little at least. It's cheaper to let the customer do that and cover it under warranty. -- Neil Bothwick Those who can, do. Those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:26:12 -0500, Dale wrote: Weird huh? Can't win either way. Maybe we need a 60 day burn in period before being sold. That should help a little at least. It's cheaper to let the customer do that and cover it under warranty. Yea,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and -I doesn't seem to show that.

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-09-24, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, but they are the technically same (you can buy simple adapters...). They're compatible but not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: On 2009-09-24, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: snip I'm don't think that the connectors are different enough to care about - I had (in a previous life/system) a PCI SATA interface card that had both

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread walt
On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. There are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Thu, 09/24, walt wrote: === In other words, disk manufacturers have apparently decided to abandon strict quality control in favor of low price, and seem happy to replace failed drives as a substitute for quality control. It must be a profitable strategy because they all seem to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread kashani
Dale wrote: I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. Overnight is good, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a way to