Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-06 Thread Corbin
On 12/05/2017 02:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/05/2017 03:26 PM, Corbin wrote: >> In "packages" that throw out the "CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS" values in the >> end-users "make.conf" and substitute their own ... how will that be handled? >> > The GCC ebuilds all use toolchain.eclass which is

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/05/2017 04:13 PM, Mick wrote: > > I just noticed chromium shows (pic) in brackets, which I assume it means > forced. > Yep. That information is hidden deep down in the "emerge" man page... --verbose [ y | n ] (-v short option) Tell emerge to run in verbose mode. Currently this

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-05 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:45:21 GMT Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/05/2017 03:26 PM, Corbin wrote: > > In "packages" that throw out the "CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS" values in the > > end-users "make.conf" and substitute their own ... how will that be > > handled? > The GCC ebuilds all use

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/05/2017 03:26 PM, Corbin wrote: > > In "packages" that throw out the "CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS" values in the > end-users "make.conf" and substitute their own ... how will that be handled? > The GCC ebuilds all use toolchain.eclass which is incomprehensible to me, but it looks like the default

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-05 Thread Corbin
On 12/05/2017 12:37 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/05/2017 11:00 AM, Corbin wrote: >> Does this mean that a "package" with no USE flag of PIE / PIC will be >> built with the gcc switches  " -fpic / -fPIE " applied? >> > Yup. > > >> Or is this the equivalent of putting the " PIE / PIC " USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/05/2017 11:00 AM, Corbin wrote: > > Does this mean that a "package" with no USE flag of PIE / PIC will be > built with the gcc switches  " -fpic / -fPIE " applied? > Yup. > Or is this the equivalent of putting the " PIE / PIC " USE flags in > make.conf? Nope.

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-05 Thread Corbin
On 12/04/2017 05:39 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 03:58:40 CET schrieb tu...@posteo.de: >> Hi, >> >> what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications >> on base of the regular updates? >> Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 03:58:40 CET schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > Hi, > > what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications > on base of the regular updates? > Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be > recompiled, which are of the "old standard"...

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread allan gottlieb
On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 04/12/2017 17:35, allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Bill Kenworthy wrote: >> >>> On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] >>> >>> Your system is somewhat

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 10:35:27 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: > This sounds like good advice but I have a question concerning > --depclean. I would have thought that > > Any package --depclean would remove is not required by anything > in @world so would not be merged by emerge -e @world

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/12/2017 17:35, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > >> On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: [1 ] >> >> Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each >> package

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread allan gottlieb
On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>> [1 ] > > Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each > package and resolve the problem - possibly stray entries in one

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Marc Joliet
Attempting to address the other ebuilds in your list: Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 10:49:02 CET schrieb John Covici: > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-misc/tmux" have been masked. > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your > !!! request: > -

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:15:48 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:11:42 -0500, John Covici wrote: > > > > > > hmmm, I do updates on a monthly or more often basis, at the end of > > > > > each I get the message no outdated packages found on your > > > > > system. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:11:42 -0500, John Covici wrote: > > > > hmmm, I do updates on a monthly or more often basis, at the end of > > > > each I get the message no outdated packages found on your > > > > system. I don't think I should be getting these messages for > > > > things like tmux, which

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:00:45 -0500, John Covici wrote: > > Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:25:28 -0500, > Marc Joliet wrote: > > > > [1 ] > > Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 13:14:23 CET schrieb John Covici: > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:25:28 -0500, Marc Joliet wrote: > > [1 ] > Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 13:14:23 CET schrieb John Covici: > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, > > > > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 13:14:23 CET schrieb John Covici: > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, > > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > > > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >> [1 ] > > > > Your system is somewhat broken

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 06:53:46 -0500, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> > >> [1 ] > > Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each > package and resolve the problem - possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 04/12/17 17:49, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> [1 ] Your system is somewhat broken I think. You need to look at each package and resolve the problem - possibly stray entries in one of the package files or world. Have you done a depclean

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 04 Dec 2017 04:26:09 -0500, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:20:17 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > do an emerge -ep world > a > > edit a to something like below then "bash a" to run it: > > emerge -v =kde-frameworks/kdelibs4support-5.37.0 && \ > > emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:20:17 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > do an emerge -ep world > a > edit a to something like below then "bash a" to run it: > emerge -v =kde-frameworks/kdelibs4support-5.37.0 && \ > emerge -v =kde-apps/kio-extras-17.08.3 && \ > emerge -v

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Bill Kenworthy
I think you are looking for problems that are not there. Almost finished recompiling the surface4 pro and have one compile failure I have not looked at - the original palemoon is still working. The hibernate to disk just failed so it rebooted from scratch and I could continue working on it while

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 03:58:40 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications > on base of the regular updates? > Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be > recompiled, which are of the "old standard"... > What else can

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-03 Thread Dale
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications > on base of the regular updates? > Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be > recompiled, which are of the "old standard"... > What else can fail? What may be the worst

[gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-03 Thread tuxic
Hi, what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications on base of the regular updates? Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be recompiled, which are of the "old standard"... What else can fail? What may be the worst scenario? Is there a way to do a