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On 30.06.2012 22:24, Dale wrote:
>>
> A, I can name it kernel. That makes more sense to me. Me
> votes for kernel-x.y.z. Heck, this may work for me.
>
> I still don't like the deal of having to run something after
> changing the kernel tho.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:30:41 +0100, Mick wrote:
>
>>> So you trust make to compile and link hundreds of object files and
>>> create the kernels and modules. You also trust it to copy all the
>>> modules, but you just want to copy that one last file manually so you
>>> can pre
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:30:10 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
> You can also make/maintain the grub.cfg yourself with grub2, just like
> in old grub. In fact this is what I do... I don't use the
> grub2-mkconfig each time, I only used it once to generate a file and
> then edited it by hand after that. I
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:13:07 -0500, Dale wrote:
> The key thing is, after I change the grub.conf file, I don't have to run
> anything else. It just works. Grub2 does tho. That reminds me of how
> lilo does it.
You're wrong there. All grub2-mkconfig does is update the config
file, it's nothing
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 23:30:41 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > So you trust make to compile and link hundreds of object files and
> > create the kernels and modules. You also trust it to copy all the
> > modules, but you just want to copy that one last file manually so you
> > can pretend you are in control?
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dale wrote:
> G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
>> On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but
>>> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-*
>>> because that is what it is named
On Jun 30, 2012 7:13 PM, "Dale" wrote:
>
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >
> >> I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing
> >> the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me.
> > Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you d
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing
>> the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me.
> Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you don't have symlinks to
> the kernels and you don't upd
Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 30 Jun 2012 23:01:40 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>> It seems to expect to keep
>>> only two kernels around and I'm real bad to have more than that,
>>> sometimes way more than that.
>> No it doesn't, it only installs kernels, no
On Saturday 30 Jun 2012 23:01:40 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > It seems to expect to keep
> > only two kernels around and I'm real bad to have more than that,
> > sometimes way more than that.
>
> No it doesn't, it only installs kernels, not uninstalls
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:10:11 -0500, Dale wrote:
> vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/
Just to confuse things, I used to run a PPC machine, and the kernel was
called vmlinux on that :-O
--
Neil Bothwick
Ultimate memory manager; Windows, it manages to use it all..
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing
> the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me.
Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you don't have symlinks to
the kernels and you don't update the config, how do you bo
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Seriously though, why not use make install? That way you know the
> > right files get copied and given the expected names.
> Because I name my kernel and config the same thing.
make install also copies your config to /boot, with a matching name
G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
> On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but
>> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-*
>> because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a
>> kernel. Is there
Dale writes:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > Seriously though, why not use make install? That way you know the
> > right files get copied and given the expected names.
>
> Because I name my kernel and config the same thing. I also don't like
> the way it does that link thingy it does. It seems to e
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Dale wrote:
>> AFAIK, you should be fine renaming bzImage to vmlinuz. (Note the z.
>> It's vmlinuz, not vmlinux")
>>
>
> Well that fixed one thing already. lol I bet I would have named that
> wrong. ;-)
>
> vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't th
On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote:
Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but
never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-*
because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a
kernel. Is there a difference between bzImage and vmlin
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Mike Gilbert wrote:
>>> Thanks for "announcing" this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night.
>>>
>>> Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your
>>> kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or k
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:50:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but
>> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-*
>> because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a
>> kernel. I
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:50:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but
> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-*
> because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a
> kernel. Is there a difference between
On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote:
Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but
never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-*
because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a
kernel. Is there a difference between bzImage and vmlinux?
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dale wrote:
>
> Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> Thanks for "announcing" this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night.
>>
>> Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your
>> kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or kernel-version. For
>> ex
Mike Gilbert wrote:
> Thanks for "announcing" this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night.
>
> Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your
> kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or kernel-version. For
> example:
>
> /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.3
> /boot/kernel-2.6.39-g
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> It appears that grub2 is coming soon. Thread on -dev said a couple
> months or so till it hits the tree, keyworded and/or masked I'm sure. I
> guess it is about time to jump off the cliff and give this a try. I
> installed Kubuntu on a s
On 06/29/12 10:57, Mike Gilbert wrote:
>>
>> No, handbook only discusses grub (not grub2) and lilo.
>>
>> Which is sad; I'd love to use stuff like grub2 and {ext,sys}linux.
>> It'd be sweet to make things more easily convertible to netboot or
>> cdrom-boot scenarios.
>
> We will add some instructi
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> On 2012-06-25 1:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
>>
>>
>> Has the Handbook/Install docs been updated to provide for installing Grub2
>> with a
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 20:36 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Paul Hartman wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> >>> It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
> >> grub 2.00 has been released!
> >>
> >> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Dale wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
>> grub 2.00 has been released!
>>
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
>>
>>
>
>
> I wasn't expecting it to be that soon. I guess it wil
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>> It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
> grub 2.00 has been released!
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
>
>
I wasn't expecting it to be that soon. I guess it will hit the tree
pretty soon then. Well, we all need to thin
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
grub 2.00 has been released!
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> <<< SNIP >>>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
Well, I got lots of info now. May just wait a bit but I do like the
idea of being able to boot a CD image from grub2 tho. Then again, I
don't have enough room on /boot right now anyway.
Thanks to all for t
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2012-06-25 1:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
>
>
> Has the Handbook/Install docs been updated to provide for installing Grub2
> with a fresh install?
>
> I'm about to do one, and would like to not h
On 2012-06-25 1:05 AM, Dale wrote:
Howdy,
It appears that grub2 is coming soon.
Has the Handbook/Install docs been updated to provide for installing
Grub2 with a fresh install?
I'm about to do one, and would like to not have to switch this out later...
Re 4FE7F195.4090708@gmail.com4fe7f195.4090...@gmail.com, Canek Peláez
Valdés said:
> Either wait for its documentation and tools to mature (i.e., when they
> finally hit the 2.0 version), or wait for something else to handle the
> future of Linux boot loader. Meanwhile, if you don't use UEFI, you
>
On Jun 25, 2012 10:55 PM, "Paul Hartman"
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
wrote:
> >
> >
> > And being honest, I hope that something else replaces GRUB2; I like
> > the notion of a /firstboot minimal Linux as boot loader, or something
> > similar. If the boot loader
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>
> And being honest, I hope that something else replaces GRUB2; I like
> the notion of a /firstboot minimal Linux as boot loader, or something
> similar. If the boot loader has to do OS-related work (graphics/input
> drivers and stuff
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:05:25 -0500, Dale wrote:
> It appears that grub2 is coming soon. Thread on -dev said a couple
> months or so till it hits the tree, keyworded and/or masked I'm sure. I
> guess it is about time to jump off the cliff and give this a try.
If GRUB legacy is working for you, I
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
Hi Dale.
> It appears that grub2 is coming soon. Thread on -dev said a couple
> months or so till it hits the tree, keyworded and/or masked I'm sure. I
> guess it is about time to jump off the cliff and give this a try. I
> installed Kubu
Howdy,
It appears that grub2 is coming soon. Thread on -dev said a couple
months or so till it hits the tree, keyworded and/or masked I'm sure. I
guess it is about time to jump off the cliff and give this a try. I
installed Kubuntu on a system for my brother and it uses grub2. I have
had to ed
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