On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:27:09PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
I'm sure they are. In the interview [1], Lameter said that quote
NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution.
/quote
modified version? That practically screams ricers! to me :-D
I didn't know
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:
The Computer is the logical advancement of humankind:
intelligence without morality.
+1
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
Nor would they wanna say they were using some stock Linux. After all, the
financial market is the most important in the world and the best on the planet
is hardly good enough for their requirements.
Ah, and look at my very fitting random sig.
-- Gruß | Greetings |
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:34:22AM -0600, Dale wrote:
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
Nor would they wanna say they were using some stock Linux. After all, the
financial market is the most important in the world and the best on the
planet
is hardly good enough for their requirements.
Ah,
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:
Being such a highly flexible system, Linux made this very easy. Though I
barely
use custom scripts for daily tasks (yet) like many more advanced Linux users
do, it was still very easy to set up.
Yes Linux is better.
On 2011-12-13, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
I'm sure they are. In the interview [1], Lameter said that quote
NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution.
/quote
modified version? That practically screams ricers! to me :-D
I didn't know there was such a thing as
On Dec 13, 2011 11:56 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-13, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
I'm sure they are. In the interview [1], Lameter said that quote
NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution.
/quote
modified version? That
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
I just want to say that I love Gentoo Linux, have used it as my
primary OS for years on multiple computers and can't stand to use
anything else. I like having total control over everything. I truly
enjoy it,
On 2011-12-10, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
And even you can't guarantee that the kernels are the same. Many distros
introduce their own distro-specific patches to the vanilla kernel.
RedHat is particularly bad about this. I maintain a couple Linux
drivers that have to work with a
On Dec 11, 2011 12:02 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-10, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
And even you can't guarantee that the kernels are the same. Many distros
introduce their own distro-specific patches to the vanilla kernel.
RedHat is particularly
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Dec 11, 2011 12:02 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-10, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
And even you can't guarantee that the kernels are the same. Many distros
introduce their own
On 7 December 2011 15:58, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-07, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
...
The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum threads full of
wrong answers posted by people
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, James Broadhead
jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Especially in the past, they have allowed their political views on
Open Source / Free Software to interfere with the best user
experience[3].
[3] The whole concept of 'restricted extras' is detrimental to
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 01:55:20 -0500
LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Claudio Roberto França Pereira
spide...@gmail.com wrote:
Going back to Ubuntu bashing, I think that the multiple versions,
multiple repositories, multiple software choices (gnome 2,
On 8 December 2011 14:25, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, James Broadhead
jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
Especially in the past, they have allowed their political views on
Open Source / Free Software to interfere with the best user
experience[3].
[3]
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
Whaddayatawkinbout, gentoo is more than great, it's awesome!
Gentoo isn't intended for beginners, and makes no claims about
user friendliness of which I'm aware. Generally speaking, making
things user friendly entails
On 2011-12-08, LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:58 AM, James Broadhead
jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
The next time you have a problem with anything related to linux,
follow a link to an Ubuntu user forum. Unfortunately, the quality of
advice on them tends to
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-12-08, LinuxIsOnelinuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:58 AM, James Broadhead
jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
The next time you have a problem with anything related to linux,
follow a link to an Ubuntu user forum. Unfortunately, the quality of
Den 07. des. 2011 01:15, skrev Indi:
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 12:40:01AM +0100, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-12-06, ny6...@gmail.comny6...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote:
But I don't know
On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:09:27 +0100
Håkon Alstadheim ha...@alstadheim.priv.no wrote:
They really are. When you have great documentaion, a shell, and a
keyboard that *is* user-friendly! ;)!
It tells you something that quite often when I google for
some-problem-description and
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 12:32:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The fellow who sits two desks away from me reckons he's lost count of
the number of times Google finds the exact answer he's looking for in a
post to gentoo-user :-)
Wouldn't it be quicker to just ask you? ;-)
--
Neil Bothwick
If you
On 2011-12-07, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
...
The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum threads full of
wrong answers posted by people who didn't understand the question.
I tried Ubuntu, hated this *so*
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-12-07, Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
...
The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum threads full of
wrong answers posted by people who didn't understand the question.
I tried Ubuntu,
On Dec 7, 2011 11:02 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-07, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
...
The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum threads full of
wrong answers posted by
On Dec 7, 2011 11:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-12-07, Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 6 December 2011, at 23:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
...
The Ubuntu documentation seems to be mainly user-forum threads full of
wrong answers posted
Yeah, I agree.
Going back to Ubuntu bashing, I think that the multiple versions,
multiple repositories, multiple software choices (gnome 2, then unity,
for example, hal then no hal) get in the way of the newbie user.
Gentoo solves that by making the user understand what he's doing, how
he's
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Claudio Roberto França Pereira
spide...@gmail.com wrote:
Going back to Ubuntu bashing, I think that the multiple versions,
multiple repositories, multiple software choices (gnome 2, then unity,
for example, hal then no hal) get in the way of the newbie user.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
One thing I have learned about this list, even if you ask a question about
M$, you get a answer and sometimes more than one. I think about all the
people here are geeks, nerds or some such thing.
And what response you got when
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
But we still are the ones who come up with answers.
Nice to know! Cool!
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I no longer run Gentoo on my Pentium IBM laptop - let's face it with 72M RAM
even fluxbox was a bit sluggish! Ha!
;)-
I do however run it on my 1998 vintage Pentium 3 laptop and before that on a
Pentium 3 Coppermine.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I do however run it on my 1998 vintage Pentium 3 laptop and before that on a
Pentium 3 Coppermine. KDE is sluggish and rebuilding KDE takes a day or so.
That's why I don't run a full KDE ... ;p Only some KDE apps on e17.
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote:
But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for
beginners!
Because Gentoo is not for beginners, there are already plenty of distros,
like Mandriva and Ubuntu, catering for first time users. Gentoo is a
power users
111206 LinuxIsOne wrote:
Then I asked him of ... Gentoo he says: Is it a country?
No, it's a miniature penguin (smile).
--
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On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:03PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote:
However, Getoo could be great (I really don't know) but installing
Ubuntu is working like a charm (I still don't know anything in Linux!)
But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for
beginners! It is typical
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:02PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote:
I guess, if Gentoo is required to be learned first and that's why it
is not so popular like Ubuntu and lag far behind than it. When I asked
a stranger do you know about Computers? He says, no but I know what it
is. Then I asked him
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote:
But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for
beginners!
Because Gentoo is not for beginners, there are already plenty of distros,
like Mandriva and
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
And yet the documentation is clear enough for anyone to follow along. Which
leads me to my next point: the Gentoo documentation is far and away the best
of any distro I have tried. Whoever writes these docs deserves a heap of
accolades
On 2011-12-06, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:03PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote:
However, Getoo could be great (I really don't know) but installing
Ubuntu is working like a charm (I still don't know anything in Linux!)
But I don't know why the creators of
On 2011-12-06, ny6...@gmail.com ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote:
But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for
beginners!
Because Gentoo is not for
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 12:40:01AM +0100, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-12-06, ny6...@gmail.com ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote:
But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:23:22PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for
beginners! It is typical then
Whaddayatawkinbout, gentoo is more than great, it's awesome!
Gentoo isn't intended for beginners, and makes no claims about
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 03:40:01PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote:
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that under gentoo, every
thing is compiled from scratch, but it was not made clear that it
happens again and again
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
In fact, I like gentoo and FreeBSD best for low-spoec hardware.
What does low-spec hardware mean?
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
In fact, I like gentoo and FreeBSD best for low-spoec hardware.
What does low-spec hardware mean?
Whatever the default setup of the latest
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
What does low-spec hardware mean?
Whatever the default setup of the latest release of Ubuntu runs
sluggish on. (Or what a previous version of Ubuntu ran on, but current
versions won't)
While somewhat flippant, that
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:10:52 -0500
LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com
wrote:
In fact, I like gentoo and FreeBSD best for low-spoec hardware.
What does low-spec hardware mean?
Anything that isn't for sale in shops
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:40:03PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
In fact, I like gentoo and FreeBSD best for low-spoec hardware.
What does
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:40:03PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com
wrote:
In
On Monday 05 Dec 2011 20:20:38 Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:40:03PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, LinuxIsOne linuxis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:28 AM,
One point no one has mentioned and I've wondered from time to time
myself is whether one can expect gentoo to continue into the future
for a long while, as compared to the likely hood of opensuse or maybe
debian that has been around a very long time.
It seemed at one time a year or so ago that
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:44:32 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
It seemed at one time a year or so ago that gentoo's longevity was
questionable. (Possibly my own mis-perception)
The discussions about Gentoo's imminent demise are an annual tradition.
For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
One point no one has mentioned and I've wondered from time to time
myself is whether one can expect gentoo to continue into the future
for a long while, as compared to the likely hood of opensuse or maybe
debian that has
Harry Putnam wrote:
One point no one has mentioned and I've wondered from time to time
myself is whether one can expect gentoo to continue into the future
for a long while, as compared to the likely hood of opensuse or maybe
debian that has been around a very long time.
It seemed at one time a
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 13:55:28 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that under gentoo, every
thing is compiled from scratch, but it was not made clear that it
happens again and again at most updates.
If the OP had read so little about
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 13:55:28 +
Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that under gentoo, every
thing is compiled from scratch, but it was not made clear that it
happens again and again at most updates.
If the OP had read so
Dale writes:
No flames from me. I agree. I wouldn't recommend Gentoo to someone who
has no, or even very little, Linux experience. Looking back, I was one
heck of a noob when I installed Gentoo. It had to be fools luck that I
got it done. Then again, the docs were, and still are,
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:16:19 +0100
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
No flames from me. I agree. I wouldn't recommend Gentoo to
someone who has no, or even very little, Linux experience. Looking
back, I was one heck of a noob when I installed Gentoo. It had to
be fools luck
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:16:19 +0100
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
No flames from me. I agree. I wouldn't recommend Gentoo to
someone who has no, or even very little, Linux experience. Looking
back, I was one heck of a noob when I installed Gentoo. It had to
be fools luck
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:37:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
An equally good question is does this person right now asking me a
question have what it takes to dive into Gentoo blindly, and swim?
The other question is do I have time to keep diving in to rescue this
person when they get out of their
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 20:45:26 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:37:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
An equally good question is does this person right now asking me a
question have what it takes to dive into Gentoo blindly, and swim?
The other question is
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 00:11:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The other question is do I have time to keep diving in to rescue this
person when they get out of their depth. When you recommend Gentoo,
you also volunteer to provide support.
I was going to mention something like that too. But
Michael Mol wrote:
This. Very much this. My dive into Gentoo came as I was fed up with
Debian and Ubuntu having buggy and/or outdated versions of multimedia
encoding packages while trying to configure a box specced for live
transcoding of h.264 to something my PS3 would like.
I came to
Jack Byer wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
This. Very much this. My dive into Gentoo came as I was fed up with
Debian and Ubuntu having buggy and/or outdated versions of multimedia
encoding packages while trying to configure a box specced for live
transcoding of h.264 to something my PS3 would like.
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