Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 23 October 2019 17:21:50 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:18:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Yes. It also updates symlinks to all three if you are already using > > > symlinks. > > > > Make install doesn't use symlinks here. This is a UEFI box with /boot > >

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:18:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Yes. It also updates symlinks to all three if you are already using > > symlinks. > > Make install doesn't use symlinks here. This is a UEFI box with /boot > formatted FAT32, so the three files are copied, not linked to. "if you

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:34:53 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 20:35:27 +0100, Mick wrote: > > > If I trust the makefile to build the entire operating system kernel, > > > build all the modules it needs and copy all those modules to the > > > correct locations, I don't see why

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:34:53 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 20:35:27 +0100, Mick wrote: > > > If I trust the makefile to build the entire operating system kernel, > > > build all the modules it needs and copy all those modules to the > > > correct locations, I don't see why

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 20:35:27 +0100, Mick wrote: > > If I trust the makefile to build the entire operating system kernel, > > build all the modules it needs and copy all those modules to the > > correct locations, I don't see why I can't let it copy one more file > > to /boot. > > I've

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:42:44 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:33:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > > If one of those should stop working or I buy something new and need to > > add support for it, the new kernel will have a -2 on the end instead of > > -1. I'm not sure on the

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:29:01 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> If I trust the makefile to build the entire operating system kernel, >>> build all the modules it needs and copy all those modules to the >>> correct locations, I don't see why I can't let it copy one more file >>> to

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:29:01 -0500, Dale wrote: > > If I trust the makefile to build the entire operating system kernel, > > build all the modules it needs and copy all those modules to the > > correct locations, I don't see why I can't let it copy one more file > > to /boot. > Thing is, I

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:33:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> If one of those should stop working or I buy something new and need to >> add support for it, the new kernel will have a -2 on the end instead of >> -1.  I'm not sure on the -gentoo one.  Thing is, I can boot the old >>

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:33:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > If one of those should stop working or I buy something new and need to > add support for it, the new kernel will have a -2 on the end instead of > -1.  I'm not sure on the -gentoo one.  Thing is, I can boot the old > kernel of that version or even

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:42:14 +0100, Mick wrote: > > I haven't used the symlink approach for some time. I use a script to > > generate the entries for GRUB or systemd-boot. As I use a script to > > build and install the kernel in the first place, there are no extra > > steps as one script calls

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 10:09:53 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On 22 October 2019 08:58:01 BST, Mick wrote: > >With manual copying/naming of kernels I can overwrite any non-booting > >kernels > >with the latest compiled example, without moving links around. What is > >the > >recommended

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 22 October 2019 08:58:01 BST, Mick wrote: >On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 00:44:00 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:42:25 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> > make install will create symlinks for vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old to >the >> > latest and previous kernel, doing much of what

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 00:44:00 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:42:25 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> make install will create symlinks for vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old to the >>> latest and previous kernel, doing much of what you need. You need /boot >>> to be on

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-22 Thread Mick
On Tuesday, 22 October 2019 00:44:00 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:42:25 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > make install will create symlinks for vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old to the > > latest and previous kernel, doing much of what you need. You need /boot > > to be on a filesystem

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:42:25 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > make install will create symlinks for vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old to the > latest and previous kernel, doing much of what you need. You need /boot > to be on a filesystem that supports symlinks and ISTR that it only > updates the symlinks if

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:54:26 +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > you are just wrongly assuming that they are mutually > exclusive... > > seriously, one could have kernels named, > without versions, as: > > vmlinuz > vmlinuz-older > vmlinuz-older2 > . > . > . > vmlinuz-olderN > > this way, new

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-21 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
you are just wrongly assuming that they are mutually exclusive... seriously, one could have kernels named, without versions, as: vmlinuz vmlinuz-older vmlinuz-older2 . . . vmlinuz-olderN this way, new kernel installation, and rotation, will be decoupled from the boot loader's configs,

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-21 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/10/19 10:26, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > specifically, i want to install kernel + initramfs without version > numbers. this way, i will not need to update my boot loader every time > i update the kernel. > You just want a nasty recovery job if the update screws up ... Seriously, I

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 18 October 2019 14:02:58 BST Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > what one doesn't use grub? I don't, for one. Oh, except for grub-legacy on an old 32-bit, single-core atom box. I won't touch grub-2 for love nor money. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:02 AM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > what one doesn't use grub? > None that I'm aware of, but I use grub so I haven't gone looking. Like I said, I used to do it this way and get why, but since doing it the new grub way has made my life easier than fighting it with

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-18 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
what one doesn't use grub? rgrds, cm. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 18, 2019 3:36 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 6:51 AM Alexander Openkowski > opn...@googlemail.com wrote: > > > I struggle with the naming of genkernel generated kernels for quite a

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 6:51 AM Alexander Openkowski wrote: > > I struggle with the naming of genkernel generated kernels for quite a while > now and have written a small wapper script for this purpose... > Somebody else shared the same problem and wrote a fairly complex wrapper, and it is

Re: [gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-18 Thread Alexander Openkowski
I struggle with the naming of genkernel generated kernels for quite a while now and have written a small wapper script for this purpose... On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:27 AM Caveman Al Toraboran < toraboracave...@protonmail.com> wrote: > specifically, i want to install kernel + initramfs without

[gentoo-user] can genkernel install files with different names?

2019-10-18 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
specifically, i want to install kernel + initramfs without version numbers. this way, i will not need to update my boot loader every time i update the kernel. rgrds, cm.