Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-26 Thread Stroller
On Oct 27, 2005, at 12:01 am, Elliott Clark wrote: I too have a local mail server and I came to the conclusion that I would really like a mx backup server. However I already spend too much on internet services. So what I would love to do is set up some kind of gentoo community run mx

[gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Mark
Can anyone who has done it comment on the downside (if any) of bringing email in-house, as opposed to continuing to pay a hosting provider? My plan is to have a separate server, sitting by itself in the DMZ, so the internal LAN should remain relatively safe. The DSL provider we use will host the

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread John Jolet
Two things, well several things, really. You need more than one mail server, or you need a store-and-forward mx in case your mail server goes down. Second, I'd make sure you put antivirus and spam guards on the mail server, and that it's beefy enough to handle the traffic. A good split is to

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 11:29 -0400, Mark wrote: Can anyone who has done it comment on the downside (if any) of bringing email in-house, as opposed to continuing to pay a hosting provider? My plan is to have a separate server, sitting by itself in the DMZ, so the internal LAN should remain

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread John Jolet
On Monday 24 October 2005 10:37, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 11:29 -0400, Mark wrote: Can anyone who has done it comment on the downside (if any) of bringing email in-house, as opposed to continuing to pay a hosting provider? My plan is to have a separate server, sitting

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Jonathan Wright
Mark wrote: Can anyone who has done it comment on the downside (if any) of bringing email in-house, as opposed to continuing to pay a hosting provider? My plan is to have a separate server, sitting by itself in the DMZ, so the internal LAN should remain relatively safe. The DSL provider we use

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Mark wrote: Can anyone who has done it comment on the downside (if any) of bringing email in-house, as opposed to continuing to pay a hosting provider? My plan is to have a separate server, sitting by itself in the DMZ, so the internal LAN should remain relatively safe. The DSL provider we

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Digby Tarvin
It is easy enough to set it up and test it in parallel with your current setup. Nothing important should be directed there till you advertise it.. I have been running a mail server on my home system ever since I got my DSL connection at home. It is where I normally direct mailing list traffic and

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Jonathan Wright
Digby Tarvin wrote: It is easy enough to set it up and test it in parallel with your current setup. Nothing important should be directed there till you advertise it.. That's fine for outgoing mail, but unless an MX record exists for the internal server on a domain/subdomain, it's difficult to

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Monday 24 October 2005 11:36, John Jolet wrote: Two things, well several things, really. You need more than one mail server, or you need a store-and-forward mx in case your mail server goes down. Second, I'd make sure you put antivirus and spam guards on the mail server, and that it's

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread kashani
John Jolet wrote: Two things, well several things, really. You need more than one mail server, or you need a store-and-forward mx in case your mail server goes down. Second, I'd make sure you put antivirus and spam guards on the mail server, and that it's beefy enough to handle the traffic.

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 06:08:05PM +0100, Jonathan Wright wrote: That's fine for outgoing mail, but unless an MX record exists for the internal server on a domain/subdomain, it's difficult to 'direct' traffic from the outside in. The only other way I can think off is to test the server

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Marshal Newrock wrote: I'd like to disagree with a couple points on here. First off, a secondary MX is not necessary. If an email can't get through due to a server being down, it will be retried and get through later when the server is up. That is true, if the down time is short in

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
kashani wrote: 1. Block mail up front. Use greylisting as it stops spam before it enters the MTA's queue. This keeps 90% of my spam from even entering the more resounce intensive filtering processes. This is a very effective filter. However, it does greatly slow down delivery of

Re: [gentoo-user] inhouse email

2005-10-24 Thread kashani
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: kashani wrote: 1. Block mail up front. Use greylisting as it stops spam before it enters the MTA's queue. This keeps 90% of my spam from even entering the more resounce intensive filtering processes. This is a very effective filter. However, it does greatly