On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:14 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
Doing backups with dd isn't terribly practical, but it is completely
safe if done correctly. The LV would need to be the same size or
larger, or else your filesystem will be truncated.
Yes,
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:22 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
You can dd from a logical volume into a file, and from a file into a
logical volume. You won't destroy the volume group unless you do
something dumb like
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:42 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
Generally you do backup at the filesystem layer, not at the volume
management layer. LVM just manages a big array of disk blocks. It
has no concept of files.
That may require downtime while
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:14 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
Doing backups with dd isn't terribly practical, but it is completely
safe if done correctly. The LV would need to be the same size or
larger, or else
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Just why can't you? ZFS apparently can do such things --- yet what's
the difference in
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:22 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
You can dd from a logical volume into a file, and from a file into a
logical volume. You won't destroy the volume group unless you do
something dumb like trying to copy it directly onto a
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Just why can't you? ZFS apparently can do such things --- yet what's
the difference in performance of ZFS compared to hardware raid?
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net writes:
Guess what, I still haven't found out how to actually back up and
restore a VM residing in an LVM volume. I find it annoying that LVM
doesn't have any way of actually copying a LV. It could be so easy if
you could just do something like 'lvcopy
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Just why can't you? ZFS apparently can do such things --- yet what's
the difference in performance of ZFS compared to hardware raid?
Software raid with MD makes for quite a slowdown.
Well,
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Monday, December 29, 2014 03:38:40 AM lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
What do you mean with unusable?
The bridge swallows the physical port, and the port becomes
unreachable. IIRC, you can get around this by assigning an IP
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
with firewalling and routing in between. You can't keep the traffic
separate when it all goes over the same bridge, can you?
Not if it goes over the same bridge. But as they are virtual, you can make as
many as you need.
I made as few as I needed.
On 29/12/14 13:55, lee wrote:
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net writes:
On 08/12/14 22:17, lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become
On Monday, December 29, 2014 02:55:49 PM lee wrote:
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net writes:
On 08/12/14 22:17, lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:05 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
I could do with a hardware controller which can be used to off-load all the
heavy lifting for the RAIDZ-calculations away from the CPU. And if the stuff
for the deduplication could also be done that way?
The CPU is the
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:
On Monday 29 Dec 2014 02:25:04 lee wrote:
I tried out the latest Gentoo live DVD ... and I was surprised that the
software it comes with is so old. Libreoffice 3.x? Seamonkey a couple
versions behind?
Is the software going to be more recent when I
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net writes:
On 08/12/14 22:17, lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become unusable, because
the bridge
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Just why can't you? ZFS apparently can do such things --- yet what's
the difference in performance of ZFS compared to hardware raid?
Software raid with MD makes for quite a slowdown.
Well, there is certainly no reason that you
On Monday, December 29, 2014 03:38:40 AM lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
What do you mean with unusable?
The bridge swallows the physical port, and the port becomes
unreachable. IIRC, you can get around this by assigning an IP address
to the bridge rather than to the
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:55:50 PM lee wrote:
BTW, can I use xfs for the VM, or will it be difficult to get the VM
booted from xfs?
Using PV, not at all. As long as the kernel for the VM has XFS support built-
in. (This is valid for other
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Monday, December 08, 2014 11:17:26 PM lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become unusable,
On Monday 29 Dec 2014 02:25:04 lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:55:50 PM lee wrote:
BTW, can I use xfs for the VM, or will it be difficult to get the VM
booted from xfs?
Using PV, not at all. As long as the kernel for the VM has XFS
On Tuesday, December 09, 2014 02:26:24 PM thegeezer wrote:
On 08/12/14 22:17, lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become unusable,
On Monday, December 08, 2014 11:17:26 PM lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become unusable, because
the bridge swallows them.
What do
On 08/12/14 22:17, lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become unusable, because
the bridge swallows them.
and if you pass the device then it
On Sunday, December 07, 2014 11:43:38 PM lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 07:11:12 PM lee wrote:
Why is the networking complicated? Do you use bridging?
Yes --- and it was terrible to begin with and still is very complicated.
One of the
On 08/12/14 11:26, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Sunday, December 07, 2014 11:43:38 PM lee wrote:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 07:11:12 PM lee wrote:
Why is the networking complicated? Do you use bridging?
Yes --- and it was terrible to begin with and still
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
create 1 bridge per physical network port
add the physical ports to the respective bridges
That tends to make the ports disappear, i. e. become unusable, because
the bridge swallows them.
pass virtual NICs to the VMs which are part of the bridges.
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 07:11:12 PM lee wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
On 2014-12-04 11:08, lee wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
On 2014-12-04 02:14, lee wrote:
snipped part already answered
name = gentoobox
kernel =
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:55:50 PM lee wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:39 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes:
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 07:11:12 PM lee wrote:
Why is the networking complicated? Do you use bridging?
Yes --- and it was terrible to begin with and still is very complicated.
One of the VMs has a network card passed through to do pppoe for
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
On 2014-12-04 02:14, lee wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to give Gentoo a try and want to install it in a xen VM. The
server is otherwise running Debian. What would be the best way to do
this?
Either you can run a virtual machine using paravirtualization (PV)
Vladimir Romanov bluebo...@gmail.com writes:
Well, what's the problem? When i do this, then i just install debian, xen
kernel, then create some config, download gentoo install cd, run it, and
follow the handbook.
How do you run the installer CD in a PV VM? It's not like you could
just boot
On 2014-12-04 11:08, lee wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
On 2014-12-04 02:14, lee wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to give Gentoo a try and want to install it in a xen VM.
The
server is otherwise running Debian. What would be the best way to do
this?
Either you can run a virtual
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:09 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Vladimir Romanov bluebo...@gmail.com writes:
Well, what's the problem? When i do this, then i just install debian, xen
kernel, then create some config, download gentoo install cd, run it, and
follow the handbook.
How do you run the
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
On 2014-12-04 11:08, lee wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
On 2014-12-04 02:14, lee wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to give Gentoo a try and want to install it in a xen VM.
The
server is otherwise running Debian. What would be the best way to do
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
The kernel is not in stage3, you have to compile it yourself (or
download from somewhere). When you have the kernel image binary, the
xen configuration for the host can be simple as:
Compile
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:09 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Vladimir Romanov bluebo...@gmail.com writes:
Well, what's the problem? When i do this, then i just install debian, xen
kernel, then create some config, download gentoo install cd, run it, and
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
The kernel is not in stage3, you have to compile it yourself (or
download from somewhere). When you have the kernel image binary, the
xen configuration
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:39 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
The kernel is not in stage3, you have to compile it yourself (or
download from somewhere).
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:30 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:09 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Vladimir Romanov bluebo...@gmail.com writes:
Well, what's the problem? When i do this, then i just install debian, xen
kernel, then
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:39 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Tomas Mozes tomas.mo...@shmu.sk writes:
The kernel is not in stage3, you have to compile it
Hi,
I'd like to give Gentoo a try and want to install it in a xen VM. The
server is otherwise running Debian. What would be the best way to do
this?
--
Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Well, what's the problem? When i do this, then i just install debian, xen
kernel, then create some config, download gentoo install cd, run it, and
follow the handbook.
2014-12-04 6:14 GMT+05:00 lee l...@yagibdah.de:
Hi,
I'd like to give Gentoo a try and want to install it in a xen VM. The
On 2014-12-04 02:14, lee wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to give Gentoo a try and want to install it in a xen VM. The
server is otherwise running Debian. What would be the best way to do
this?
Either you can run a virtual machine using paravirtualization (PV) or
full virtualization (HVM).
If you
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