Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 15:41:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 16 August 2008 03:57:42 b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: In short: all 8XXX chips are bad. Because of the thermal environment laptops are on a different place of the bell curve than desktops. Laptops with nvidia graphic are failing left and right. Whole series of

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 16. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 15:41:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't use compiz ;) and people have reported slowdowns even with kde3.5.9 - with 4.1 it is just much severe. And when I say 'severe' I talk about lagging for several seconds between 'key pressed' and 'sign appears on screen'. Or 'mouse button pressed' and

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using 2.6.23 but the 2.6.25 kernel does this slow thing. It started in 2.6.24 range. what video card do you have? -- alan

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using 2.6.23 but the 2.6.25 kernel does this slow thing. It started in 2.6.24

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 17. August 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using 2.6.23 but the 2.6.25 kernel does this slow

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 17. August 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using

[gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL xorg-server-1.4.99.906 Yes, it's bleeding-edge :-) This is in an effort to get some performance out of what should be a very decent video card. It

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Dirk Uys
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL xorg-server-1.4.99.906 Yes, it's bleeding-edge :-) This is in an

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 09:12:06 Dirk Uys wrote: I don't know about the bug, but screen can safe you the hassle of having to open all your sessions again? Screen is indeed god's gift to sysadmins, it's almost as useful as bash :-) I do use it a lot, and for more and better reasons than just

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Dirk Uys
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 09:12:06 Dirk Uys wrote: I don't know about the bug, but screen can safe you the hassle of having to open all your sessions again? Screen is indeed god's gift to sysadmins, it's almost as useful

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 09:29:42 Dirk Uys wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 09:12:06 Dirk Uys wrote: I don't know about the bug, but screen can safe you the hassle of having to open all your sessions again? Screen

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL xorg-server-1.4.99.906 any reason why you use an unreleased X? There are no new features

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 11:51:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: any reason why you use an unreleased X? There are no new features or improvements. And KDE works fine with 1.4

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 12:49:26 b.n. wrote: Alan McKinnon ha scritto: This is the second thread in a few days that reports problems with nVidia cards. Owning a 3rd generation Macbook Pro (nVidia Geforce 8600M GT) with Gentoo on, I'm a bit worried. I never noticed significant problems on

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 11:51:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: any reason why you use an unreleased X? There are no new

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: On Friday 15 August 2008 12:49:26 b.n. wrote: Alan McKinnon ha scritto: This is the second thread in a few days that reports problems with nVidia cards. Owning a 3rd generation Macbook Pro (nVidia Geforce 8600M GT) with Gentoo on, I'm a bit worried. I never noticed

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 12:49:26 b.n. wrote: Alan McKinnon ha scritto: This is the second thread in a few days that reports problems with nVidia cards. Owning a 3rd generation Macbook Pro (nVidia Geforce 8600M GT) with Gentoo on,

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 14:19:14 b.n. wrote: Oh s**t. Thank you. Go figure I bought that MBP last year also because of its nVidia card... I feel your pain, I'm in exactly the same position. I specifically bought this laptop because of the nVidia card and my bad experiences with ATI binary

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 14:14:16 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: that their drivers for the 8XXX and 9XXX series suck (on win and lin) is only one of their problems. I wasn't aware that there was a problem with the windows drivers. I thought the suckiness on linux came mostly from the X

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series doesn't really have 2d hardware anymore - everything is done in the

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Roy Wright
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series doesn't really have 2d hardware

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: In short: all 8XXX chips are bad. Because of the thermal environment laptops are on a different place of the bell curve than desktops. Laptops with nvidia graphic are failing left and right. Whole series of HP, Dell, Asus, laptops are walking ghosts. Desktops

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 16. August 2008, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: In short: all 8XXX chips are bad. Because of the thermal environment laptops are on a different place of the bell curve than desktops. Laptops with nvidia graphic are failing left and right. Whole series of HP, Dell,