Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04:26AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > Seriously dude, this looks like a dumb scheme that gives you warm > and fuzzies but doesn't actually accomplish anything except increased > complexity. I came up with this way back when I was using another distro that didn't do "ro

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-21 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 November 2010 20:46:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:59 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Mick > did > > opine thusly: > > On Saturday 20 November 2010 00:22:49 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 01:21 on Saturday 20 November 2010, > >

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:59 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: > On Saturday 20 November 2010 00:22:49 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 01:21 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Neil > > > > Bothwick did opine thusly: > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-20 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 November 2010 13:26:03 David W Noon wrote: > On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:10:02 +0100, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] > >Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know > >how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on primary > >and logical partit

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-20 Thread Arttu V.
On 11/20/10, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Really? Please don't tell this computer, it's been booting from a logical > partition for more than six years. GRUB user, meet a LILO user? :) -- Arttu V.

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-20 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 November 2010 00:22:49 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 01:21 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Neil > > Bothwick did opine thusly: > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:50 +, Mick wrote: > > > Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know > >

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:26:03 +, David W Noon wrote: > Unless you have the mother of all initrd's or initramfs's, you cannot > have /boot on a logical partition -- only a primary partition, as BIOS > interrupts will only access raw drives and primary partitions. % fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-20 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:10:02 +0100, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels: >On Friday 19 November 2010 19:19:34 David W Noon wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: >> >> [gentoo-user] migrating

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 22:13:50 Mick wrote: > Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't > know how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on > primary and logical partitions and the difference (on a stopwatch) > was measurable in seconds betweeen having s

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:21 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:50 +, Mick wrote: > > Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know > > how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on primary

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:50 +, Mick wrote: > Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know > how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on primary > and logical partitions and the difference (on a stopwatch) was > measurable in seconds betweeen having s

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:03 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:04:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > XFS allows growing a mounted filesystem, but it has no option to > > > shrink a filesystem, mounted or otherwise. > > > > xfs isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:04:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > XFS allows growing a mounted filesystem, but it has no option to > > shrink a filesystem, mounted or otherwise. > xfs isn't something I use and I had a niggling thought I might have got > the details wrong. Thanks for that. It's quit

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:13 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: > On Friday 19 November 2010 19:19:34 David W Noon wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: > > > > [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts t

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 19:19:34 David W Noon wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: > > [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels: > >On Friday 19 November 2010 14:42:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread David W Noon
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels: >On Friday 19 November 2010 14:42:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote: >> > Also primary partitions which he does no

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 14:42:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote: > > Also primary partitions which he does not seem to be using at all > > have a slight edge over logical. > > Do you have any data on this? I generally use all logical partitions > but could

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:41 on Friday 19 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:07:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Yes, you can grow a mounted filesystem, just not shrink it. Most decent > > Unix filesystems support this, I think xfs is the only one i

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote: > Also primary partitions which he does not seem to be using at all have > a slight edge over logical. Do you have any data on this? I generally use all logical partitions but could be persuaded to rethink. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:07:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Yes, you can grow a mounted filesystem, just not shrink it. Most decent > Unix filesystems support this, I think xfs is the only one in common > use that doesn't. XFS allows growing a mounted filesystem, but it has no option to shrink a f

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:49 on Friday 19 November 2010, Marius Vaitiekunas did opine thusly: > Hi, > One question about ext4. Is it possible to resize partition without > unmounting it like on reiserfs filesystem? Yes, you can grow a mounted filesystem, just not shrink it. Most decent

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 09:04:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 03:44 on Friday 19 November 2010, Walter > Dnes > > did opine thusly: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20:52PM -0600, Dale wrote > > > > > This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. > > > > > > LA

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
Hi, One question about ext4. Is it possible to resize partition without unmounting it like on reiserfs filesystem? On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 03:44 on Friday 19 November 2010, Walter > Dnes > did opine thusly: > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 201

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 03:44 on Friday 19 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20:52PM -0600, Dale wrote > > > This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. > > > > LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 > > LABEL=root

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20:52PM -0600, Dale wrote > This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. > > LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 > LABEL=root /reiserfsdefaults0 1 > LABEL=swapnoneswapsw0 0 > LABE

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-18 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:24:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James > did opine thusly: > > Hello, > > > > I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T > > Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. [snip ...]

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-18 Thread Andrea Conti
> tar c /path/to/old/ | tar xvp /path/to/new Whoops... That should be tar c -C /path/to/old/ . | tar xvp -C /path/to/new/ Sorry, andrea

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-18 Thread Andrea Conti
> Disk /dev/sdb: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes A small caveat -- if this is an "advanced format" drive be sure to use fdisk in sector mode (fd

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread Dale
James wrote: so what does new fstab using disk labels look like? << SNIP>> Discussion, corrections or caveats are most welcome. This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 LABEL=root /reiserfs

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 17.11.2010 22:59, schrieb James: > Hello, > > I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T > Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. > [...] > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 16405514481317 HPFS

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James did opine thusly: > Hello, > > I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T > Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. > > old disk: > > Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes > 255 heads, 63

[gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread James
Hello, I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. old disk: Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 5