Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marc Joliet, Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. I too use LVM and it yields excellent results. -- Neil Bothwick IBM: Inferior But Marketable. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:41:22 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Marc Joliet, Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. I too use LVM and it yields

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marc Joliet, I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. I too use LVM and it yields excellent results. Now that is you have to explain to me. Is the stage2 found regardless due to the hardcoded pointer upon installing? So the 'logical' part of the volume doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:46:10 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Marc Joliet, I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. I too use LVM and it yields excellent results. Now that is you have to explain to me. Is the stage2 found regardless due

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marc Joliet, What I meant was that I have / on a logical volume, so I can't put /root on it. Which is what I used to do, and means you have a separate /boot partition and need an initrd. By combining / and /boot, you have one less partition, the same number of non-LVM partitions and no

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Zsitvai János
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is what I used to do, and means you have a separate /boot partition and need an initrd. By combining / and /boot, you have one less partition, the same number of non-LVM partitions and no initrd. It also means that now I have half a gig going

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:06:18 +0200, Zsitvai János wrote: Which is what I used to do, and means you have a separate /boot partition and need an initrd. By combining / and /boot, you have one less partition, the same number of non-LVM partitions and no initrd. It also means that now I

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Zsitvai János
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That only means you made / too big, the same would happen if you made /boot too big. My / partition is 400MB and less than 50% full, 300MB would be plenty. And I could easily shrink it down to a sane size were it on LVM. That was kinda the point.

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Zsitvai János
Hi, I suspect your root is a lot more than it needs to be, does it include /opt? No, it actually turns out that I have a lot of cruft in /root. Outdated portage snapshots, old kernel images moved from /boot when it filled up, mysql binary log files I weren't sure were essential.. Without all

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-29 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Montag, den 27.08.2007, 11:58 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 The trouble

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-29 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Montag, den 27.08.2007, 11:58 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 The trouble with using noauto is that sooner or later you will forget to mount /boot

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Please tell us more. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Mick, Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Please tell us more. A separate /boot is to get round BIOS limitation that prevent accessing beyond the first so many cylinders (1024?) of a drive, so it was essential to have the

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Please tell us more. Many many many years ago, back in the dark days of small drives and broken BIOSes, we

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 The trouble with using noauto is

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Dave Jones
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote on 27/08/07 22:52: On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:52:39 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM. In which case it's just as easy to use a small root partition, including /boot, /lib, /bin etc. and

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-25 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 23:43 +0100 schrieb Mick: On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst is still there and, or if its permissions were messed up.

[gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Marc Joliet
Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: GRUB _ with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del (reboot) worked. Now, to make it clear, I solved that:

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Mick
On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: GRUB _ with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Mick
On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst is still there and, or if its permissions were messed up. Yes, I should have. I know it was there, though, since I