[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > 2) Was anything really 'broken'? Most certainly no, going by the above > definition and the fact that the news item provided for a very clear > pathway to maintain compatibility that was essentially a two-line solution. I think that build

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

I've been lurking in the background, partly amused and partly frustrated at the arguments being thrown, but with the risk of exacerbating this further I'm going to throw in my two cents (or pence in this corner of the world). I'll start by saying this wasn't the smoothest Python upgrade

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:03:52 -0400 Jack wrote: > On 6/5/24 11:58 AM, Matthew Brooks wrote: > > Can't work out how to reply to the message from John about this, as I > > wasn't subscribed to the list before, but I'm posting more details on mpv's > > compilation failure. The main error seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On 6/5/24 11:58 AM, Matthew Brooks wrote: Can't work out how to reply to the message from John about this, as I wasn't subscribed to the list before, but I'm posting more details on mpv's compilation failure. The main error seems to be: locale.Error: unsupported locale setting I'm attaching

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >>> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? >> >> IIRC, the first one

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take action on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:41 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > And no, I don't buy the point of view that it's the responsibility of > the developers when my personal set of USE flags suddenly causes con- > flicts. > Agree, but keep in mind that having personal sets of USE flags is basically a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/5/24 4:27 AM, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz: >> - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and >>    instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your >>    system > > > I do have one question because I get the vipe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Grant, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:00:29 - (UTC) you wrote: > ... > I don't see how (even in theory) steps 2 and 3 can work when you have > packages installed that won't build with 3.12. That depends on your definition of "work". It occurs even when doing normal updates that you run into a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: > > What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when > important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get > updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take > action

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 4:27 AM hitachi303 wrote: > > the news item lists in the save upgrade section those lines: > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 > > This is mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 on the same system. This should be > working

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz: - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your system I do have one question because I get the vipe from you that mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 would be

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Am 04.06.24 um 22:09 schrieb Eli Schwartz: The purpose of the news item was to warn users that the event would occur. Did it not achieve its purpose? Were you not-warned? Do we at least agree that the news item was truthful? Hi, for me this was exactly what the news item did. It helped me to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Waldo should learn to actually read and base his comments on facts instead of assumptions --- Original message --- From: Waldo Lemmer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 05:21:59 +0200

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

On 6/4/24 21:02, Grant Taylor wrote: It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I think is also known as ALUA. I was really close, but not quite there. Now I've made it all the way. % multipath -l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? > > IIRC, the first one was pycxx. The build faild during the

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

On 6/4/24 21:02, Grant Taylor wrote: It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I think is also known as ALUA. I was really close, but not quite there. Now I've made it all the way. % multipath -l

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Hello, On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 4:37 PM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > LAST ATTEMPT AS YOU CLEARLY ARE INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING NORMAL > ENGLISH. I WILL USE CAPS FOR YOU. > > WHERE DID I STATE I WANT TO DEFER THE UPDATE? > I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE VERSION! > > THE ISSUE IS CAUSED BY A BROKEN SET

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 22:10 Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >>> Those steps do not just work. > >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > >>> the update" if you have not set any

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >>> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >>> resolve the dependencies.

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

Pre-Script: It's working. On 6/4/24 19:48, Grant Taylor wrote: The thing that makes me think that this might be EMC CLARiiON specific is the following output. It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

In case anyone is interested, here is my approach. In package.use my starting point is */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 #*/* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_12 Then regularly check which packages i'm using that don't have 3.12 single target yet

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

On 6/4/24 11:03, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Yes, I have dev-mapper multipath support in the kernel: # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i multipath # CONFIG_NVME_MULTIPATH is not set CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH=y CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_QL=m CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_ST=m CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_HST=m #

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wol wrote: > On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: >> I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were >> going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the >> limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a >> motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

On 6/4/24 11:03 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I have 2 HBAs. Each HBA is connected to expander A and expander B (seperate expander chips on the same backplane) Each SAS drive has 2 connections. Connection 1 is connected to expander A. 2 is connected to B. (might be the other way round, but this

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Holy crap.  That is amazing.  As you say, just one out of all of > them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead.  I > was expecting more like close to or into the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to combat that problem, they

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dale wrote: > Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> Dale, >> >> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: >> >>> ... >>> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >>> little longer would have helped. >> Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale wrote: > Holy crap. That is amazing. As you say, just one out of all of them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead. I was expecting more like close to or into the billions. I was not expecting that. Can you imagine if a chip had to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 12:13 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > I don't want to be too picky as the core language maintainers have A > LOT of work to do, but part of the challenge is that it isn't very > obvious to a package maintainer (or anybody else) what packages > actually have problems. It is obvious if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be > external to internal.  It

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. There are also still over

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to another is faster than moving data out of a chip and then back in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:34:52 +0200 On 6/4/24 4:19 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Gentoo provides you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >> resolve the dependencies. > > I had plenty of both. If a package

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

there is millions of transistors on a CPU chip nowadays.  I need to google that Threadripper CPU.  64 cores in the top model I think.  I bet it has a ton of transistors in it. > > > > > Thanks for the info.  I was wondering where you were.  _-O > > > > I'm still here. J

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation > failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't > resolve the dependencies. I had plenty of both. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

cessor has changed with a lot of it becoming high speed serial specs which reduce the number of pins on the processor. > > Thanks for the info. I was wondering where you were. _-O > I'm still here. Just don't post much as I'm not a Gentoo user and figure I have little to offer until a t

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:19 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> Gentoo provides you the tools to control your system with this >> specificity. You have the option to avoid this change -- everything will >> continue to work flawlessly with python 3.11. This is the very >> definition of not being forced. > > Having

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > > there.  The Fractal can handle 20 that I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:12:41 +0200 On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: And before people claim I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > And before people claim I can always help out the devs. I tried this > multiple times in the past, but it's always a massive uphill struggle to > get anywhere. I update ebuilds, ask for review and comments to improve > what I do. Then nothing happens.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 >> >> How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is >> 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? > It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> Those steps do not just work. >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do >>> the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. >>> I have those not set, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > there. The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily. There's 4 in > the bottom, 11 in a tall stack

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. That is slower but at least it works. >>> The LSI cards will work just as

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that.

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 9:17 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, in a previous post you shared a rather long list of packages which > you classified not to be Python 3.12 ready. This list contained "sys- > apps/portage"! This just can't be! From my 1060 installed packages ex- > actly ONE package required

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > >> ... >> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >> little longer would have helped. > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

Hi Jude, I can't answer your question directly because, frankly, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I'll try my best to clear things up for you. The `nproc` command prints how many processors (CPU cores) are available for applications to use. This is how many emerge or make jobs can run

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some packages to > be built twice or even three times, but it JUST WORKED (tm), at least > here. It only required

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:14 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > > Those steps do not just work. > > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > > I have

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

Found out nproc is a command and my machine returns 16 when that command got run. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote: > How is the number of

[gentoo-user] nproc

How is the number of threads nproc can handle printed out to the terminal? On an earlier install try I had J7,l8 put in /etc/portage/make.conf since the computer has 14gb of available memory on it. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. > > There are also

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Grant, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory errors)

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Rainer, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: ... I read the thread linked to by the OP. I just wonder if waiting a little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Hi Joost, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dale, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > ... > I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a > little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI cards will work just as well in a 1x. That is,

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:33:16 -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > > The great program

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: >> You ever seen one of these? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 >> >> Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe >> x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? >> > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >> video. > The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the > card

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > > > complains that name or

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: > > You ever seen one of these? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 > > Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe > x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using a USB cable, and converting

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Dale To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 11:36:41 +0200 Arve Barsnes wrote: On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: That is one way

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: Rich, You ever seen one of these?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe x1 slot?  Am I seeing that right?  USB ports are going to wash dishes before long.  LOL Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > video. The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the card should work fine in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: >> That is one way to do it. Thing is, if there are several updates before >> they can use 3.12, then you get to edit those each time. As it is, I'll >> leave it there for a couple weeks. If emerge complains in the meantime, >> I

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

On Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:23:00 BST Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means > >> **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for > >> media... I need to know

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: > That is one way to do it. Thing is, if there are several updates before > they can use 3.12, then you get to edit those each time. As it is, I'll > leave it there for a couple weeks. If emerge complains in the meantime, > I can remove a line or two.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 16:34, Dale wrote: The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: >> I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run >> emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the >> list if packages I had to add to package.use. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >>> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >>> >> Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a >> breakout cable that will attach one of those to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the list if packages I had to add to package.use. ## # Try to remove

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: > I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run > emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the > list if packages I had to add to package.use. > > ## > #

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Hi, I'm trying to set up SAN multipathing via dm-multipath for the first time in about a decade. I am seeing the test LUNs (1 x 10 GB and 1 x 100 GB) twice on my relatively recent (<60 days out of date) Gentoo system. But I'm not able to get multipath to see anything. Before I go too

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for media... I need to know what it is and how to stop it... =\ Assuming you're not running some media

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Marco Minutoli wrote: > Hello, > > I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a > consequence of the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a > "fervent" discussion on the topic [1], but I decided to keep my > distance from those spicy tones and I hope for a more polite >

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 12:02 AM, Marco Minutoli wrote: > Hello, > > I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a consequence of > the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a "fervent" discussion on > the topic [1], but I decided to keep my distance from those spicy tones and > I hope for

[gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Hello, I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a consequence of the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a "fervent" discussion on the topic [1], but I decided to keep my distance from those spicy tones and I hope for a more polite conversation here. Let me premise,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I thought of something on the m.2 thing.  I plan to put my OS on it.  I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 12:38:13AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm > unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB > sticks.  The out of stock Newegg one claims 256GB, which would be nice.  > I'm not sure what to think on memory.  Anyway.  If

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >> > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a > breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: > > When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. Some things to keep in mind when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: >> *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD >> announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So >> maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although >> at the >> launch,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: >> I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS >> card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one >> card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold >> hooked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although at the launch, both the new boards and cpus are

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: > > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS > card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one > card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold > hooked to it. > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > > On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: >>  From this link: >> >> https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html >> >> >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 00:38:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > First, I'm not to thrilled with this mobo.  I'd still like to have more > PCIe slots, even x1 ones would help.  It's the best I've found so far. > It might be able to do the job.  I hope anyway.  Naturally, this will > have

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >> Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz >> >> That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. > The CPU you picked indeed

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: From this link: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html Graphics Capabilities Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics Graphics Core Count 2 Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz Yes, the 7600X will have a built in

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: > > Graphics Capabilities > > Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics > Graphics Core Count 2 > Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz > > That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Alan Grimes wrote: > > Dale wrote: >> The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit >> different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on >> systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this >> mobo has built in video, is that the

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