RE: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:27 AM > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02:02AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > > > > My question: what, technically, prevents me

Re: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start to > > realize that the idea of "tiny partition that contains just what I > > need to boot and mount /usr" is becoming "not so tiny" anymore. The > > distinction between wh

Re: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02:02AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > >> There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you can ensure that any >> hard-coded paths to those binaries are updated properly. > > Surely this is the same, whether one co

Re: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02:02AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > > My question: what, technically, prevents me from copying the booting > > software instead to /sbin and booting the system that way? > Nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: [snip] > As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start to realize > that the idea of "tiny partition that contains just what I need to boot and > mount /usr" is becoming "not so tiny" anymore. The distinction between what

RE: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > My question: what, technically, prevents me from copying the booting > software instead to /sbin and booting the system that way? Nothing; in fact, this was the general solution to the problem of "something else

Re: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > I've been thinking about the problem of the conflation of every > executable into /usr.  If /usr isn't on /, the system can't boot without > special preperations.  Nothing new here. > > The method usually discussed is to c