RE: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-21 Thread Liebich, Wolfgang
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:24:11 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Montag 20 Oktober 2008, Conway S. Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:20 +0200 > > > > Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > the howtos on gentoo-wiki worked wel

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 20 October 2008 16:33:24 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > after a nice person on this list gave me a good tip, I was able to (and I > still do) have root on raid1 without initrd/ramfs crap. > > commandline: > root=/dev/md1 md=1,1,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 nopat nmi_watchdog=0 > > md auto assembli

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 20 Oktober 2008, Conway S. Smith wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:24:11 +0200 > > Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Montag 20 Oktober 2008, Conway S. Smith wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:20 +0200 > > > > > > Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > H

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-20 Thread Conway S. Smith
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:24:11 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Montag 20 Oktober 2008, Conway S. Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:20 +0200 > > > > Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > the howtos on gentoo-wiki worked wel

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 20 Oktober 2008, Conway S. Smith wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:20 +0200 > > Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > the howtos on gentoo-wiki worked well for me. > > > > I'm working with them, too. Just one question remains: I want to use > > udev. Do I

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-20 Thread Conway S. Smith
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:20 +0200 Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > > > the howtos on gentoo-wiki worked well for me. > > I'm working with them, too. Just one question remains: I want to use > udev. Do I have to create the md devices or does udev that for me? > udev w

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Liebich
Hi, > > the howtos on gentoo-wiki worked well for me. I'm working with them, too. Just one question remains: I want to use udev. Do I have to create the md devices or does udev that for me? > > > > - Put the root partition on another RAID1 (I thought about putting the > > root filesystem int

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 17 October 2008 12:43:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > I have /tmp and /var/tmp on tmpfs - /tmp is so small it is not worth > wasting a partition for it. Yes, and you can enlarge it by creating plenty of swap. My 4GB of real RAM isn't enough to compile the biggest programs, but setting

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-17 Thread jormaa
Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > Hi, > > > OK - nearly everyone here (and at work, too) told me to forget the > onboard fake raid controller. So this is what I will do :-) > The RAID-Howto as well as the LVM howto are however woefully out of > date. I will try to work with the linux-raid website's info

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 17 Oktober 2008, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > Hi, > > Alan McKinnon schrieb: > > On Wednesday 15 October 2008 15:13:45 Pintér Tibor wrote: > >>> I'm in the process of setting up a new private computer. I've bought > >>> one with two drives b/c I wanted to setup a RAID system - RAID1 for > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:40:52 +0200, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > Basically I plan to do: > - Put the boot partition on a RAID1 > - Put the root partition on another RAID1 (I thought about putting the > root filesystem into my LVM setup, too -- it is REALLY annoying if the > root partition get's to sm

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Liebich
Hi, Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 15 October 2008 15:13:45 Pintér Tibor wrote: > >>> I'm in the process of setting up a new private computer. I've bought one >>> with two drives b/c I wanted to setup a RAID system - RAID1 for >>> important partitions, RAID0 for scratch files maybe. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Wolfgang Liebich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm in the process of setting up a new private computer. I've bought one > with two drives b/c I wanted to setup a RAID system - RAID1 for > important partitions, RAID0 for scratch files maybe. > Additionally I wou

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 15 Oktober 2008, Dan Cowsill wrote: > Hi guys, > > I've had some experience in the past with software (BIOS) RAID. > Obviously there would be a big performance difference with hardware vs > BIOS RAID. Has anyone done any benchmarks to the effect of BIOS vs > linux kernel RAID? yes. go

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Dan Cowsill
Hi guys, I've had some experience in the past with software (BIOS) RAID. Obviously there would be a big performance difference with hardware vs BIOS RAID. Has anyone done any benchmarks to the effect of BIOS vs linux kernel RAID? Thanks, D Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > Hi, > I'm in the process of

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Pintér Tibor
If you want to be sure your data is still readable in the event that your mobo dies and you can't find a replacement with the same "fake" RAID controller, stick with Linux kernel RAID. ...or buy a 3ware/areca/adaptec card, which is 100% supported. (but those are heavy bucks) t

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Albert Hopkins
Your mobo RAID is most likely software/BIOS RAID (what some people call "fake" RAID). The point is it's software that's doing the real work. If you want to be sure your data is still readable in the event that your mobo dies and you can't find a replacement with the same "fake" RAID controller, s

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Hi, since you seem to be german, there's an article about SW-/MoBo-/HW-RAID in the current issue of c't magazine. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 15:13:45 Pintér Tibor wrote: > > I'm in the process of setting up a new private computer. I've bought one > > with two drives b/c I wanted to setup a RAID system - RAID1 for > > important partitions, RAID0 for scratch files maybe. > > Additionally I would like to use LV

Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?

2008-10-15 Thread Pintér Tibor
I'm in the process of setting up a new private computer. I've bought one with two drives b/c I wanted to setup a RAID system - RAID1 for important partitions, RAID0 for scratch files maybe. Additionally I would like to use LVM2 --- on my work PC I've grown to like the flexibility of that. The In