Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On 6/5/24 11:58 AM, Matthew Brooks wrote: Can't work out how to reply to the message from John about this, as I wasn't subscribed to the list before, but I'm posting more details on mpv's compilation failure. The main error seems to be: locale.Error: unsupported locale setting I'm attaching

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take action on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:41 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > And no, I don't buy the point of view that it's the responsibility of > the developers when my personal set of USE flags suddenly causes con- > flicts. > Agree, but keep in mind that having personal sets of USE flags is basically a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/5/24 4:27 AM, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz: >> - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and >>    instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your >>    system > > > I do have one question because I get the vipe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Grant, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:00:29 - (UTC) you wrote: > ... > I don't see how (even in theory) steps 2 and 3 can work when you have > packages installed that won't build with 3.12. That depends on your definition of "work". It occurs even when doing normal updates that you run into a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: > > What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when > important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get > updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take > action

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 4:27 AM hitachi303 wrote: > > the news item lists in the save upgrade section those lines: > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 > > This is mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 on the same system. This should be > working

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz: - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your system I do have one question because I get the vipe from you that mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 would be

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Am 04.06.24 um 22:09 schrieb Eli Schwartz: The purpose of the news item was to warn users that the event would occur. Did it not achieve its purpose? Were you not-warned? Do we at least agree that the news item was truthful? Hi, for me this was exactly what the news item did. It helped me to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Waldo should learn to actually read and base his comments on facts instead of assumptions --- Original message --- From: Waldo Lemmer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 05:21:59 +0200

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

On 6/4/24 21:02, Grant Taylor wrote: It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I think is also known as ALUA. I was really close, but not quite there. Now I've made it all the way. % multipath -l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? > > IIRC, the first one was pycxx. The build faild during the

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

On 6/4/24 21:02, Grant Taylor wrote: It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I think is also known as ALUA. I was really close, but not quite there. Now I've made it all the way. % multipath -l

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Hello, On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 4:37 PM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > LAST ATTEMPT AS YOU CLEARLY ARE INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING NORMAL > ENGLISH. I WILL USE CAPS FOR YOU. > > WHERE DID I STATE I WANT TO DEFER THE UPDATE? > I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE VERSION! > > THE ISSUE IS CAUSED BY A BROKEN SET

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 22:10 Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >>> Those steps do not just work. > >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > >>> the update" if you have not set any

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

Pre-Script: It's working. On 6/4/24 19:48, Grant Taylor wrote: The thing that makes me think that this might be EMC CLARiiON specific is the following output. It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

In case anyone is interested, here is my approach. In package.use my starting point is */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 #*/* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_12 Then regularly check which packages i'm using that don't have 3.12 single target yet

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

On 6/4/24 11:03, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Yes, I have dev-mapper multipath support in the kernel: # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i multipath # CONFIG_NVME_MULTIPATH is not set CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH=y CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_QL=m CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_ST=m CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_HST=m #

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wol wrote: > On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: >> I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were >> going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the >> limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a >> motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

On 6/4/24 11:03 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I have 2 HBAs. Each HBA is connected to expander A and expander B (seperate expander chips on the same backplane) Each SAS drive has 2 connections. Connection 1 is connected to expander A. 2 is connected to B. (might be the other way round, but this

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Holy crap.  That is amazing.  As you say, just one out of all of > them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead.  I > was expecting more like close to or into the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to combat that problem, they

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dale wrote: > Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> Dale, >> >> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: >> >>> ... >>> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >>> little longer would have helped. >> Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale wrote: > Holy crap. That is amazing. As you say, just one out of all of them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead. I was expecting more like close to or into the billions. I was not expecting that. Can you imagine if a chip had to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 12:13 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > I don't want to be too picky as the core language maintainers have A > LOT of work to do, but part of the challenge is that it isn't very > obvious to a package maintainer (or anybody else) what packages > actually have problems. It is obvious if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be > external to internal.  It

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. There are also still over

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to another is faster than moving data out of a chip and then back in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:34:52 +0200 On 6/4/24 4:19 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Gentoo provides you the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >> resolve the dependencies. > > I had plenty of both. If a package

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:27 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:27 PM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or southbridge chip or both chips? Not exactly taking out but rather repartitioning. Much of what used to be in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:19 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> Gentoo provides you the tools to control your system with this >> specificity. You have the option to avoid this change -- everything will >> continue to work flawlessly with python 3.11. This is the very >> definition of not being forced. > > Having

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > > there.  The Fractal can handle 20 that I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:12:41 +0200 On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: And before people claim I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > And before people claim I can always help out the devs. I tried this > multiple times in the past, but it's always a massive uphill struggle to > get anywhere. I update ebuilds, ask for review and comments to improve > what I do. Then nothing happens.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 >> >> How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is >> 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? > It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> Those steps do not just work. >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do >>> the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. >>> I have those not set, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > there. The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily. There's 4 in > the bottom, 11 in a tall stack

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. That is slower but at least it works. >>> The LSI cards will work just as

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that.

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 9:17 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, in a previous post you shared a rather long list of packages which > you classified not to be Python 3.12 ready. This list contained "sys- > apps/portage"! This just can't be! From my 1060 installed packages ex- > actly ONE package required

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > >> ... >> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >> little longer would have helped. > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

Hi Jude, I can't answer your question directly because, frankly, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I'll try my best to clear things up for you. The `nproc` command prints how many processors (CPU cores) are available for applications to use. This is how many emerge or make jobs can run

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:14 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > > Those steps do not just work. > > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > > I have

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

Found out nproc is a command and my machine returns 16 when that command got run. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote: > How is the number of

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. > > There are also

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Grant, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory errors)

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Rainer, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: ... I read the thread linked to by the OP. I just wonder if waiting a little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Hi Joost, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dale, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > ... > I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a > little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI cards will work just as well in a 1x. That is,

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:33:16 -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > > The great program

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: >> You ever seen one of these? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 >> >> Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe >> x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? >> > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >> video. > The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the > card

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > > > complains that name or

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: > > You ever seen one of these? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 > > Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe > x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using a USB cable, and converting

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Dale To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 11:36:41 +0200 Arve Barsnes wrote: On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: That is one way

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: Rich, You ever seen one of these?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe x1 slot?  Am I seeing that right?  USB ports are going to wash dishes before long.  LOL Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > video. The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the card should work fine in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: >> That is one way to do it. Thing is, if there are several updates before >> they can use 3.12, then you get to edit those each time. As it is, I'll >> leave it there for a couple weeks. If emerge complains in the meantime, >> I

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

On Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:23:00 BST Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means > >> **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for > >> media... I need to know

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: > That is one way to do it. Thing is, if there are several updates before > they can use 3.12, then you get to edit those each time. As it is, I'll > leave it there for a couple weeks. If emerge complains in the meantime, > I can remove a line or two.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 16:34, Dale wrote: The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: >> I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run >> emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the >> list if packages I had to add to package.use. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >>> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >>> >> Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a >> breakout cable that will attach one of those to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the list if packages I had to add to package.use. ## # Try to remove

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: > I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run > emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the > list if packages I had to add to package.use. > > ## > #

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Hi, I'm trying to set up SAN multipathing via dm-multipath for the first time in about a decade. I am seeing the test LUNs (1 x 10 GB and 1 x 100 GB) twice on my relatively recent (<60 days out of date) Gentoo system. But I'm not able to get multipath to see anything. Before I go too

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for media... I need to know what it is and how to stop it... =\ Assuming you're not running some media

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Marco Minutoli wrote: > Hello, > > I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a > consequence of the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a > "fervent" discussion on the topic [1], but I decided to keep my > distance from those spicy tones and I hope for a more polite >

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 12:02 AM, Marco Minutoli wrote: > Hello, > > I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a consequence of > the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a "fervent" discussion on > the topic [1], but I decided to keep my distance from those spicy tones and > I hope for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I thought of something on the m.2 thing.  I plan to put my OS on it.  I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 12:38:13AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm > unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB > sticks.  The out of stock Newegg one claims 256GB, which would be nice.  > I'm not sure what to think on memory.  Anyway.  If

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >> > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a > breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: > > When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. Some things to keep in mind when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: >> *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD >> announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So >> maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although >> at the >> launch,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: >> I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS >> card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one >> card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold >> hooked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although at the launch, both the new boards and cpus are

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: > > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS > card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one > card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold > hooked to it. > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > > On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: >>  From this link: >> >> https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html >> >> >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >> Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz >> >> That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. > The CPU you picked indeed

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: From this link: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html Graphics Capabilities Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics Graphics Core Count 2 Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz Yes, the 7600X will have a built in

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: > > Graphics Capabilities > > Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics > Graphics Core Count 2 > Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz > > That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Alan Grimes wrote: > > Dale wrote: >> The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit >> different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on >> systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this >> mobo has built in video, is that the

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means > **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for > media... I need to know what it is and how to stop it... =\ Assuming you're not running some media

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Dale wrote: The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this mobo has built in video, is that the right thing? DUDE!!! You are

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 02:47:44 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote > > > > I put the URL in firefox on Windows which uses the same dns -- it all > > goes through my linux box -- and it worked fine, so it seems > > youtube-dl is not working. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Thanks to all who help on this.  I'll be glad when this nightmare is > over.  I've never been this disappointed in picking parts to build a rig > before.  > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > I thought of something.  I need a power supply.  I can use the the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 02/06/2024 14:27, Dale wrote: Should I put the portage work directory on a spinning rust drive to save wear and tear on the SSD or have they got to the point now that doesn't matter anymore?  I know all the SSD devices have improved a lot since the first ones came out. The stuff I've seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a >> separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty >> for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, 13:28 Nuno Silva wrote: > (Well, one request I have is to please don't top-post in this > list. That's not the common style in this list, and tends to be an > approach mostly from the Microsoft and business worlds.) > Top-posting is the default in Gmail, and there's no

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest > blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a > separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty > for all combined. Make them large

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Dale. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57 -0500, Dale wrote: > > [ ] > >> Got the manual.  It says 128GB.  That sounds more like what I was >> expecting anyway.  I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much.  That's why I >> picked two 32GB sticks.  128GB is four times

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:27 AM Dale wrote: > > I thought of something on the m.2 thing. I plan to put my OS on it. I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all packages anyway

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