Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Wol
On 07/08/2024 14:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Wol. On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 23:08:42 +0100, Wol wrote: On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows, their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program again? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Wol. On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 23:08:42 +0100, Wol wrote: > On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows, > > their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program > > again? If not, that would appear to be a

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 7 August 2024 10:04:28 BST Matt Jolly wrote: > Hi, > > On 6/8/24 02:58, Wols Lists wrote: > > Last I investigated, sddm had a *hard* dependency on X11. So even if > > you're running a Wayland system (like I am) you need X installed so that > sddm will work. > > > That's not quite

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-07 Thread Matt Jolly
Hi, On 6/8/24 02:58, Wols Lists wrote: > Last I investigated, sddm had a *hard* dependency on X11. So even if you're running a Wayland system (like I am) you need X installed so that sddm will work. That's not quite correct; it's been possible to run SDDM directly as a Wayland session for q

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-07 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 07/08/2024 01:09, Dale wrote: >> Well choke me until I look like a Smurf.  ROFLMBO  That worked.  As >> soon as I clicked that, it went to the / directory.  It seems to >> stick there.  It actually changed it for every instance I have >> running too.  It seems that Dolphin wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/08/2024 01:09, Dale wrote: Well choke me until I look like a Smurf.  ROFLMBO  That worked.  As soon as I clicked that, it went to the / directory.  It seems to stick there.  It actually changed it for every instance I have running too. It seems that Dolphin wants to run as one instance i

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/08/2024 00:02, Dale wrote: Well, it does it when I'm actually doing things like typing a email or something.  Plus, most energy saving stuff is disabled.  It has to stay on so I can watch TV anyway.  Odd tho, only the main monitor does it. The second monitor stays on and so does the TV.  It

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 06:02:47PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>> The /mnt or any other /* directories will show up both when you click the / >>> partition Label on the 'Devices' side panel section and when you click Root >>> in >>> the 'Places' section. >>> >> True but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 06:02:47PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > The /mnt or any other /* directories will show up both when you click the / > > partition Label on the 'Devices' side panel section and when you click Root > > in > > the 'Places' section. > > > > True but I rarely use that panel, pane

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 08:16:04 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> As most know, I've built a new rig. I've fixed a lot of things over the >> past couple weeks but I've got one thing that I just can't figure out. >> Dolphin is the default file manager and it works well enough. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Wol
On 06/08/2024 22:40, Arsen Arsenović wrote: That's indeed the case, XDG and freedesktop and the X consortium being behind Wayland certainly helped adoption. Well, Wayland is - effectively - X13. Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
hi Alan, thank you for maintaining CC mode :-) it is endlessly useful in my day-to-day. to preface, I'm not a wayland protocol expert; I've had to debug clients and servers a few times, view communications between clients and servers some others, experimented with some patches, but I haven't wri

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Wol
On 06/08/2024 19:31, Alan Mackenzie wrote: So, is it possible in Wayland to record a configuration of windows, their sizes and positions, then restore these on starting a program again? If not, that would appear to be a design bug in Wayland. What am I missing? That - unlike X - is because wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
"J. Aho" writes: > On 06/08/2024 15.56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> "J. Aho" writes: >> >>> On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? >>> >>> There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: >>> https://gist.github.c

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Daniel Frey writes: > On 8/6/24 06:56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> "J. Aho" writes: >> - Wayland breaks screensavers - ironically, those never worked on X, but >>do on wayland, because the compositor can actually redirect keys >>properly rather than trying to patchwork around X > > I actua

Re: [gentoo-user] Testing Gentoo before install on new laptop

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
Hi Alexis, On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 15:43:21 BST Alexis Praga wrote: > Dear fellow Gentoo users, > > For the first time in 15 years, I have bought a new (and recent too !) > laptop (Yoga 7 Gen 9). Is there a way to test Gentoo on it before > installing it ? You can try the LiveUSB, but unless i

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread J. Aho
On 06/08/2024 15.56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: "J. Aho" writes: On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Arsen. On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 15:56:40 +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > "J. Aho" writes: > > On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: > > https://gist.gi

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread efeizbudak
Do you have any idea why that might have happened? On 2024-08-06 20:22, Eli Schwartz wrote: On 8/6/24 2:03 PM, efeizbudak wrote: I am on a musl system and I cannot compile www-client/firefox-128.0.3 with +lto +pgo flags. The compilation runs fine otherwise. Can anyone point me in the right di

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile firefox::rapid with +lto +pgo

2024-08-06 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 8/6/24 2:03 PM, efeizbudak wrote: > I am on a musl system and I cannot compile www-client/firefox-128.0.3 > with +lto +pgo flags. The compilation runs fine otherwise. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? > > Here are the logs: > build.log: http://0x0.st/XVSx.txt > emerge --info: https:

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/08/2024 16:28, Michael wrote: to see if you can set / in there? I don't know if this might affect it permanently, rather than on startup, but its worth trying. You can also set it on the startup command, so if you went in and edited the appropriate .desktop file, you can always tell it

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolpin and panel won't lock correctly

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 08:16:04 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > As most know, I've built a new rig. I've fixed a lot of things over the > past couple weeks but I've got one thing that I just can't figure out. > Dolphin is the default file manager and it works well enough. It's > better than the

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Daniel Frey
On 8/6/24 06:56, Arsen Arsenović wrote: "J. Aho" writes: - Wayland breaks screensavers - ironically, those never worked on X, but do on wayland, because the compositor can actually redirect keys properly rather than trying to patchwork around X I actually forgot about this one - the scr

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Wols Lists writes: > On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: >> 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears >> to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new >> VT and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a blinking >> cur

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Daniel Frey writes: > Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to solve > some > problems I had. > > The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: > > 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/S

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Monday, 5 August 2024 23:56:02 BST Daniel Frey wrote: > On 8/5/24 09:58, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it > >> appears to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will > >> start

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Arsen Arsenović
"J. Aho" writes: > On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: >> Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: > https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277 it's either out of date or fearmon

Re: [gentoo-user] Another hitch with get-binpkg

2024-08-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 5 August 2024 17:51:38 BST Waldo Lemmer wrote: > Hi Peter, > > You seem to have misplaced a double-quote. It should be: > > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="${EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS} --usepkg-exclude > 'dev-lang/yasm"' emerge -1 yasm Actually, your 'dev-lang/yasm"' should have been 'dev-lang/yasm'",

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Monday, 5 August 2024 17:30:56 BST Daniel Frey wrote: > Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to > solve some problems I had. > > The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: > > 1. Logi

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 6 August 2024 09:29:15 BST byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > On 05/08/2024 23:56, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems. It does make me wonder > > though if the discrete video card (nvidia) is the cause of some/most of > > these problems. > > If I we

Re: [Possible phishing attempt] Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-06 Thread byte . size226
On 05/08/2024 23:56, Daniel Frey wrote: I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems. It does make me wonder though if the discrete video card (nvidia) is the cause of some/most of these problems. If I were to 'guess', I think it's the Nvidia drivers and less to do with Wayland implementatio

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread J. Aho
On 05/08/2024 18.30, Daniel Frey wrote: Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? There are still issues with wayland, not sure how up to date this page is: https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277 My SailfishOS based phone uses wayland and on that it's been

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: > Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime? > > I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to > solve some problems I had. > > The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed: > > 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM an

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Daniel Frey
On 8/5/24 09:42, Waldo Lemmer wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2024, 18:31 Daniel Frey > wrote: 2. Sometimes video hardware acceleration just doesn't work. Now I do have a discrete nVidia card with the proprietary driver, but I switched to nouveau and it didn't work ei

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Daniel Frey
On 8/5/24 09:58, Wols Lists wrote: On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new VT and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a blinkin

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/08/2024 17:30, Daniel Frey wrote: 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears to start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new VT and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a blinking cursor. This didn't happen when us

Re: [gentoo-user] Another hitch with get-binpkg

2024-08-05 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Peter, You seem to have misplaced a double-quote. It should be: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="${EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS} --usepkg-exclude 'dev-lang/yasm"' emerge -1 yasm Though I don't understand why you dont't just pass the option to emerge directly: emerge -1 --usepkg-exclude 'dev-lang/yasm" yasm `${E

Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of issues with wayland

2024-08-05 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024, 18:31 Daniel Frey wrote: > 2. Sometimes video hardware acceleration just doesn't work. Now I do > have a discrete nVidia card with the proprietary driver, but I switched > to nouveau and it didn't work either. Again, not an issue in X11. > > I have a nVidia RTX 3070 Ti. Aft

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/08/2024 10:54, Dale wrote: I figure the first step, find a new email provider.  Then find out what software works best with it.  I so want to get away from gmail. Step 1 - look for a nice domain (mine belongs to my brother). Step 2 - look for a small(ish) Internet Services Provider which

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/08/2024 10:54, Dale wrote: I've read about people pulling their hair out trying to set up email software and it sounds like a nightmare and they know more about it than I do.  I'd like to do this but I'd need a good howto. Thing is, there's too many jobs required to process email, and in

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote: >> Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the >> emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have >> Thunderbird or any other email program connect to that and view, >> create, send or whatever emails.  Thing is

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread William Kenworthy
On 4/8/24 16:11, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote: Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have Thunderbird or any other email program connect to that and view, create, send or whatever emails.

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote: Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have Thunderbird or any other email program connect to that and view, create, send or whatever emails.  Thing is, setting up the first progr

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 12:15:55PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> :-) :-) > > There is Seamonkey documentation, but there are loads of how to's for > > Mozilla > > products. If Seamonkey is mostly the same as Firefox/Thunderbird, you can > > take look at the Thunderbird resources to find out how t

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-03 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 3 August 2024 06:55:53 BST Dale wrote: >> Waldo Lemmer wrote: >>> Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers >>> only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in >>> Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years,

Re: [gentoo-user] Automatic e-mail fetching/checking in SeaMonkey Mail&News (was: Re: Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.)

2024-08-03 Thread Dale
Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-08-03, Dale wrote: > >> I really need to switch to a better email provider.  Thing is, I'd like >> to set it up so that I have a email program that fetches my emails and >> then I just connect locally to read them. After all, Seamonkey stopped >> fetching emails automati

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-03 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 3 August 2024 06:55:53 BST Dale wrote: > Waldo Lemmer wrote: > > Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers > > only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in > > Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-02 Thread Dale
Waldo Lemmer wrote: > > Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers > only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in > Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though. > > Firefox has a channel through which broken sites can be reporte

Re: [gentoo-user] Web browser issues. Firefox and Seamonkey doesn't work, Chrome does.

2024-08-02 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though. Firefox has a channel through which broken sites can be reported: https://support.mozilla.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Jacques Montier
Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 15:26, Michael a écrit : > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:38:33 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael a écrit > : > > > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 1 August 2024 13:38:33 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael a écrit : > > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a > > > > écrit : > > > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Jacques Montier
Le jeu. 1 août 2024 à 13:39, Michael a écrit : > On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a > écrit : > > > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the > > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome set

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 1 August 2024 11:24:29 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a écrit : > > Looks like a possibility, if this started when you ran an update of the > > desktop, or changed some cinnamon/gnome settings. Play around with the > > auto- > > mount USB drive o

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-08-01 Thread Jacques Montier
Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 18:46, Michael a écrit : > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:37:17 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael a > écrit : > > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > For a few days, my two

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 17:37:17 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael a écrit : > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on > > > /run/medi

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Jacques Montier
Le mer. 31 juil. 2024 à 16:49, Michael a écrit : > On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on > > /run/media/ > > Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks versio

Re: [gentoo-user] auto-mounting external usb disk problem

2024-07-31 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 10:36:20 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Hello all, > > For a few days, my two usb external disks do not automatically mount on > /run/media/ Have you changed your PC, USB port/hub, kernel or your udisks version, before you noticed this? If you observed this on a laptop,

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 21:12:35 BST gen...@dhaller.de wrote: > Hello, > > 29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey : > > I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over > > SSH. > > https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-fro > m-shell-without-ro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 4:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > Right, but that's only useful after you track down the trigger for the > new packages. What would be nice is avoiding that "tracking down" > effort. [I know, I should just relax, hit 'Y', and trust that emerge > and the devs know what they're doing.] Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread gentoo
Hello, 29.07.2024 15:17:26 Peter Humphrey : > I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78175326/how-can-i-trigger-shut

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey >> >> wrote: >>> On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +01

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >>> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >>> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like

Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Andreas Fink
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:01:19 - (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI > paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are > thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like > that. Devs are thinki

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 16:10:10 BST Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/29/24 12:01 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages > for no apparent reason. > > Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now > wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them > dev-python/poetry

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SS

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:32:24 BST Michael wrote: > On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > > > doesn't help me much, though it has a good deal o

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:32 +0100, Michael wrote: > > loginctl terminate-session > That'll exit the desktop session. I was on the right track at least. I'm accustomed to doing it with xfce-session-logout signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 July 2024 14:27:03 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > > doesn't help > > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. > > loginctl terminate

Re: [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?

2024-07-29 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 14:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google > doesn't help > me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. loginctl terminate-session ^ would be the first thing I would try.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emails are no indexable

2024-07-25 Thread Hank Leininger
[ Originally sent on 2024-07-09 but it never made it to the list, probably because I am not subscribed. ] On 2024-07-09, Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: > In https://marc.info/robots.txt I see > > User-agent: * > Disallow: / > > It looks bad. You had to scroll down quite a bit to get there. The very

Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and printer serial numbers

2024-07-25 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 24 July 2024 16:59:11 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Is it possible to get CUPS to report the serial number of a > network-connected printer? Not from what I have come across. The commands lpstat and lpinfo do not show the S/N of my networked printer. I can't recall

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade problems with the latest llvm/clang

2024-07-24 Thread Jack
Sorry for the delay, but yes, after re-syncing, everything is working correctly. Thanks for the info. On 2024.07.23 17:52, Eli Schwartz wrote: On 7/23/24 5:37 PM, Jack wrote: > The latest eix-sync included clang and llvm 18.  Unfortunately, a full > emerge upgrade complains > > - media-lib

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade problems with the latest llvm/clang

2024-07-23 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/23/24 5:37 PM, Jack wrote: > The latest eix-sync included clang and llvm 18.  Unfortunately, a full > emerge upgrade complains > > - media-libs/mesa-24.1.3::gentoo USE="X llvm lm-sensors (opengl) > proprietary-codecs vaapi vulkan wayland zstd -d3d9 -debug -opencl > -osmesa (-selinux) -test -u

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

2024-07-22 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 July 2024 16:20:54 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Oopsie, I found this mail in my drafts folder just now, where it’s been > sitting since the ninth. Perhaps I had to pause writing, but now I can’t > remember anymore. So I’ll just send it off. ;-) > > Am Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:02:47

Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant: Wi-Fi works for all points, excluding one in the caffee

2024-07-21 Thread William Kenworthy
In this line it looks like a space after "Lali" ... BillK On 22/7/24 00:19, Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: wlp3s0: 3: a0:8c:f8:78:01:50 ssid='Lali ' wpa_ie_len=26 rsn_ie_len=24 caps=0x1411 level=-59 freq=243

Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant: Wi-Fi works for all points, excluding one in the caffee

2024-07-21 Thread Vitaly Zdanevich
SOLVED - name has space at the end. On 7/21/24 20:19, Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: Hi, my old Android 8 phone and Ubuntu on the same laptop connects to this point, but not Gentoo. I see this point in `wpa_cli scan_result` as [WPA-PSK-CCMP+TKIP][WPA2-PSK-CCMP+TKIP][ESS] Lali My config in the sam

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

2024-07-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Oopsie, I found this mail in my drafts folder just now, where it’s been sitting since the ninth. Perhaps I had to pause writing, but now I can’t remember anymore. So I’ll just send it off. ;-) Am Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:02:47AM +0100 schrieb Michael: > On Monday, 8 July 2024 21:21:19 BST Frank

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/init-system-helpers fails. Trying to install needrestart.

2024-07-21 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 21 July 2024 02:38:46 BST Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I did my weekly update the other day a little early. Anyway, I need to >>> install needrestart but a package fails to build that it depends on. >>> This is the short error message. >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/init-system-helpers fails. Trying to install needrestart.

2024-07-21 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 July 2024 02:38:46 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I did my weekly update the other day a little early. Anyway, I need to > > install needrestart but a package fails to build that it depends on. > > This is the short error message. > > > > > > > > root@Gentoo-1

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/init-system-helpers fails. Trying to install needrestart.

2024-07-20 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I did my weekly update the other day a little early.  Anyway, I need to > install needrestart but a package fails to build that it depends on.  > This is the short error message.  > > > > root@Gentoo-1 / # cat > /var/log/portage/sys-apps\:init-system-helpers-1.66\:20240720-

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 6.9 panic....

2024-07-20 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 20 July 2024 18:52:33 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > Because I did everything precisely the same as I did last time I updated > my kernel, nothing worked. =| > > Basically the old .config is coppied to the new kernel, and I run it > with "make -j 60 ; make install modules_install " Try it

Re: [gentoo-user] Bring back dev-build/bazel ?

2024-07-18 Thread Alexis Praga
Thank you for the advice. Bazelisk seems the way to go as it "is the recommended way to install Bazel on Ubuntu, Windows, and macOS" [1]. Alexis [1] https://bazel.build/install/bazelisk On Wednesday, July 17th, 2024 at 19:11, Ionen Wolkens wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 09:05:44A

Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: on update I got "mount: /proc: mount failed: Unknown error 5005.,Unable to mark /proc slave: 32"

2024-07-17 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024, 19:09 Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: > My script in the chroot folder: > > ``` > mount --rbind /dev dev > mount --make-rslave dev > mount -t proc /proc proc > mount --rbind /sys sys > mount --make-rslave sys > mount --rbind /tmp tmp > mount --bind /run run > > mount -o bind /var/db

Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: on update I got "mount: /proc: mount failed: Unknown error 5005.,Unable to mark /proc slave: 32"

2024-07-17 Thread Michael
Hi Vitaly, On Wednesday, 17 July 2024 18:08:08 BST Vitaly Zdanevich wrote: > Hi, I did a chroot according to > https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Chroot > > My script in the chroot folder: > > ``` > mount --rbind /dev dev > mount --make-rslave dev > mount -t proc /proc proc > mount --rbind

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

2024-07-17 Thread Dale
Howdy, A rather large update.  It's got issues still but right now, I'm typing on the new rig which is not my old main rig, unless something happens to this new thing.  Old main rig could find itself back again.  Basically, I'm on the Ryzen thing.  :-D First, I couldn't open any of my encrypted d

Re: [gentoo-user] Bring back dev-build/bazel ?

2024-07-17 Thread Ionen Wolkens
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 09:05:44AM +, Alexis Praga wrote: > Dear mailing-list, > > dev-build/bazel has been removed last January along with tensorflow from > distribution. While I cannot speak for tensorflow (but it seems a good idea), > would it be doable to add back only bazel ? > Maybe as

Re: [gentoo-user] Bring back dev-build/bazel ?

2024-07-17 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:05:44 BST Alexis Praga wrote: > Dear mailing-list, > > dev-build/bazel has been removed last January along with tensorflow from > distribution. It is not in the main tree, but you can install it from the 'vowstar' overlay: http://gpo.zugaina.org/dev-build/bazel >

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/15/24 5:54 AM, J. Aho wrote: > The main issue is that you aren't syncing portage towards the bin > server, which makes things out of sync and those you will be building a > lot of the packages instead of fetching the binary files when they are > built. As noted earlier, it's more complicated

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 July 2024 09:50:00 BST Michael wrote: > I recall having some trouble with bytemark in the past. Now you mention it, so do I, but I've been using it for quite a while now with no problems. I suppose servers come and go... -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-16 Thread Michael
On Monday, 15 July 2024 13:36:19 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 15 July 2024 10:54:37 BST J. Aho wrote: > > The main issue is that you aren't syncing portage towards the bin > > server, which makes things out of sync and those you will be building a > > lot of the packages instead of fetchi

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 15 July 2024 10:54:37 BST J. Aho wrote: > The main issue is that you aren't syncing portage towards the bin > server, which makes things out of sync and those you will be building a > lot of the packages instead of fetching the binary files when they are > built. One way to come around

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-15 Thread J. Aho
On 13/07/2024 14.50, Peter Humphrey wrote: Where I live, updates to portage itself usually take longer to appear as a binary package than as source, so I can't 'getbinpkg'. Therefore I've set: The main issue is that you aren't syncing portage towards the bin server, which makes things out of syn

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-15 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/07/2024 07:22, Dale wrote: >> Is this about the -1 or --oneshot option? > > Yes. > > Once your system is stable it's a damn good idea :-) > > Cheers, > Wol > > On my recent new rig build, once I installed everything from the world file from my old system, I added that op

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/07/2024 07:22, Dale wrote: Is this about the -1 or --oneshot option? Yes. Once your system is stable it's a damn good idea :-) Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-14 Thread Dale
Wol wrote: > On 14/07/2024 14:15, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> Yes, I have EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=8 --load-average=8 >> --autounmask=n -- >> keep-going  --nospinner" >> >> Nothing contentious there, I'd have thought. > > I didn't think I had anything contentious - --once-only and that was > about

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-14 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 7/14/24 8:04 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 14 July 2024 07:05:04 BST Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> As a matter of curiosity, why do you need to do any such thing at all? >> >> If there is no binary package available for portage yet, then portage >> will automatically build it from source in

Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor, new problem. Everything LARGE O_O

2024-07-14 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 14 July 2024 10:44:30 BST Dale wrote: >> Well, this was about codec support. It seems I had none of them >> available. I likely enabled more than needed but if it isn't needed, it >> just ignores them, so I've read anyway. This is a sort list. >> >> [*] Support initi

Re: [gentoo-user] ldconfig segfaults after updating to 23.0 profil

2024-07-14 Thread Waldo Lemmer
FYI, Gmail sees this email as spam: > Be careful with this message > > The sender hasn't authenticated this message so Gmail can't verify that it actually came from them. Avoid clicking links, downloading attachments, or replying with personal information. On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 9:12 PM Dan Joha

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/portage and binary packages

2024-07-14 Thread Wol
On 14/07/2024 14:15, Peter Humphrey wrote: Yes, I have EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=8 --load-average=8 --autounmask=n -- keep-going --nospinner" Nothing contentious there, I'd have thought. I didn't think I had anything contentious - --once-only and that was about it. I think that was actuall

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