Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-05 Thread konsolebox
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:32 AM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Real breaking > changes of documented behaviour like the Bignum/Fixnum one are rare, and > the effects are moderate. This isn't even "breaking" yet. Only deprecated. -- konsolebox

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-04 Thread R0b0t1
Sorry, I missed your reply. On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Am 04. September 2017 um 12:07 Uhr -0500 schrieb R0b0t1 : >> Even if they can not present an argument like I have, >> they will probably only notice it if it misbehaves

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-04 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/04/2017 01:07 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> For almost all languages but Ruby (and Perl) you can take code written >> against one minor version and compile it in the next minor version. > > > This isn't a language issue

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-04 Thread Marvin Gülker
Am 04. September 2017 um 12:07 Uhr -0500 schrieb R0b0t1 : > Even if they can not present an argument like I have, > they will probably only notice it if it misbehaves in some way. If it > misbehaves more than other software on their system, who is to say it > isn't a poorly

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/04/2017 01:07 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > For almost all languages but Ruby (and Perl) you can take code written > against one minor version and compile it in the next minor version. This isn't a language issue with Ruby, it's a culture/package-management one. For a long time, it's been easy to

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-04 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Am 03. September 2017 um 15:35 Uhr -0500 schrieb R0b0t1 : >> I think the takeaway from Alan's comment is that Python is unnaturally >> stable compared to other interpreted languages. One might be

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-04 Thread Marvin Gülker
Am 03. September 2017 um 15:35 Uhr -0500 schrieb R0b0t1 : > I think the takeaway from Alan's comment is that Python is unnaturally > stable compared to other interpreted languages. One might be inclined > to think Python developers consider their work to be a widely used > tool

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-03 Thread R0b0t1
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 1:08 AM, Hans de Graaff wrote: > The situation with ruby really isn't different from python or perl at > all. We also have multiple python versions in the tree just like with > ruby. perl is not slotted but faces the same issues on each version (e.g. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-03 Thread Marvin Gülker
Am 02. September 2017 um 21:18 Uhr -0500 schrieb R0b0t1 : > Seeing as the OP is saying there are 3 versions queued for merge and > he has not installed any of them by hand it looks like Alan is > right. Perhaps the OP is using "old" Ruby based software, but software > of that age

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-02 Thread R0b0t1
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Marvin Gülker wrote: > Am 02. September 2017 um 22:57 Uhr +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon > : >> OK, so disclaimer up front. I detest Ruby. I hate it with a passion. > > There is nothing one can do against that,

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-02 Thread Marvin Gülker
Am 02. September 2017 um 22:57 Uhr +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon : > OK, so disclaimer up front. I detest Ruby. I hate it with a passion. There is nothing one can do against that, but... > Each new minor version of ruby is a whole new language and the devs > are OK with

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/09/2017 15:33, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I'm in the process of doing a world update and due to a failed compile, > I have cause to look up through the list of stuff to compile/update. > Imagine my surprise when I saw there were three versions of Ruby wanting > to update: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 2 September 2017 14:33:31 BST Andrew Lowe wrote: > I'm in the process of doing a world update and due to a failed compile, > I have cause to look up through the list of stuff to compile/update. > Imagine my surprise when I saw there were three versions of Ruby wanting > to update: >