[gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 09 May 2008 15:38:51 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: No. Not to a drive used for backups of Linux machines. Why? Different OS. So. We can use the same web pages, read the same email, why not share hardware? Because it doesn't make

[gentoo-user] Re: Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 10 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We plan to eval Gentoo. We await 2008 final. Why? What features are you expecting? The comment is, Gentoo home page gives no clue about status. Convincing people that Gentoo is alive becomes tricky because the final is months late

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Justin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi, We plan to eval Gentoo. We await 2008 final. The comment is, Gentoo home page gives no clue about status. Convincing people that Gentoo is alive becomes tricky because the final is months late and little motion on the home page. That's about all most people

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome CD automount fails without error

2008-05-10 Thread Wolf Canis
Ian Hilt wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 at 5:53pm +0200, Wolf Canis wrote: Hello, I just experienced the same problem. Could you solve your problem? If so could you post the solution? Some data of mine: I'm in the groups:

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 10 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We plan to eval Gentoo. We await 2008 final. The comment is, Gentoo home page gives no clue about status. Convincing people that Gentoo is alive becomes tricky because the final is months late and little motion on the home page.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 09 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: A backup device is just a storage appliance, if should not be parochial about the origin of the data it stores. Agreed. I have gentoo boxes out there that contain backups for themselves, other gentoo machines, tens of various Windows machines and

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Justin
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Saturday 10 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We plan to eval Gentoo. We await 2008 final. The comment is, Gentoo home page gives no clue about status. Convincing people that Gentoo is alive becomes tricky because the final is months late and little motion

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 10 May 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote: A backup device is just a storage appliance, if should not be parochial about the origin of the data it stores. But because there are different requirements (features of the filesystems), what you're saying is not correct. No, what YOU

Re: [gentoo-user] booting to grub prompt, but config works

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 09 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 21:50:09 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Check for /boot/grub/menu.lst, this is an alternate (and maybe empty) config file which grub seems to prefer over

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Florian Philipp
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 16:19 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We plan to eval Gentoo. We await 2008 final. The comment is, Gentoo home page gives no clue about status. Convincing people that Gentoo is alive becomes tricky because the final is months late and little motion on the home

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking packages when emerge gnome-light

2008-05-10 Thread paul
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:57 -0500, Tim wrote: paul wrote: I am sure that this is all explained somewhere but I cannot find it easily. When running emerge -av gnome-light I get : [blocks B ] gnome-base/control-center-2.22 (is blocking gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.22.1)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-10 Thread Grant
I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can connect the antenna to my laptop directly), not the passphrase key... Ah. I've got a Hawking HWUG1 USB WiFi adapter that works fine with Gentoo (I had to download driver source from somewhere). It's got an R-SMA connector for

[gentoo-user] Re: [wildly OT]advice for a wireless antenna?

2008-05-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-05-10, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about the USB wireless adapter (I don't think I can connect the antenna to my laptop directly), not the passphrase key... Ah. I've got a Hawking HWUG1 USB WiFi adapter that works fine with Gentoo (I had to download driver source from

[gentoo-user] Re: Best anti-virus

2008-05-10 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o
forgottenwizard wrote: On 20:13 Fri 09 May , 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: I am extremely pleased with Antivir (aka Avira) and its realtime LKM, Dazuko! 1. The Antivir database and heuristics contain dozens of Linux-specific rootkits and Trojans. These in addition to Windows sigs. FWICT, the only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best anti-virus

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 10 May 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: But I sure acknowledge the majority opinion - almost ALL Linux users, and many Windows users as well, choose not to run real-time AntiMalware scanners. I do this, and I do it for a perfectly obvious reason: Your suggestion protects me from a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 May 2008, at 07:07, Michael Schmarck wrote: So. We can use the same web pages, read the same email, why not share hardware? Because it doesn't make sense, to share the same filesystem for backing up Windows and Linux? You keep saying this like it's obvious, but don't provide any good

[gentoo-user] [OT] mdadm+lvm2+mkfs

2008-05-10 Thread Daniel Iliev
Hi, I've created a raid-5 (md0) with 3 hdds and chunk size=512KB. On top of it, using the default options, I've created a lvm2 physical disk with one volume group. vgdisplay shows PE=4MB. Now I have several logical volumes in this group which have to be formatted with ext3. Here comes my

[gentoo-user] Re: installation cd for P1 P2

2008-05-10 Thread James
Ian Hilt ian.hilt at gmail.com writes: So you are saying (implying) that i586 and k6 machines can use the 2008.0.beta2 minimum CD for installation? What about all of those old drivers that are often I was merely providing an official Gentoo document which provided information related

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Mick
On Saturday 10 May 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 16:19 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We plan to eval Gentoo. We await 2008 final. The comment is, Gentoo home page gives no clue about status. Convincing people that Gentoo is alive becomes tricky because the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best anti-virus

2008-05-10 Thread Robert Bridge
On Sat, May 10, 2008 3:58 pm, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: forgottenwizard wrote: Realtime Linux Anti-Trojan signature scanning overhead is simply cheap (almost free) insurance IMHO, and may be most important when compiling and installing new or updated sourcecode. Or installing a new plugin to your

[gentoo-user] Re: Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread James
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: The OP has inadvertently given us some valuable feedback, which stands on its own and is irrelevant with the fact that he (like many other non-gentoo users) had mistaken Gentoo for yet-another-binary-distro. Having a user friendly website that

Re: [gentoo-user] booting to grub prompt, but config works

2008-05-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP # change menu.lst to grub.conf if [[ ! -e ${dir}/grub.conf ]] [[ -e ${dir}/menu.lst ]] ; then mv -f ${dir}/menu.lst ${dir}/grub.conf ewarn ewarn ***

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fun with Foo (matic) ?

2008-05-10 Thread Mick
On Friday 09 May 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 09 May 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: See other thread on this very subject yesterday and today for details: emerge -avC all foomatic ebuilds emerge -av  all foomatic ebuilds Yes; that worked. Thank you very much for

Re: [gentoo-user] booting to grub prompt, but config works

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 10 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP # change menu.lst to grub.conf if [[ ! -e ${dir}/grub.conf ]] [[ -e ${dir}/menu.lst ]] ; then mv -f ${dir}/menu.lst ${dir}/grub.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 10. Mai 2008, Stroller wrote: On 10 May 2008, at 07:07, Michael Schmarck wrote: So. We can use the same web pages, read the same email, why not share hardware? Because it doesn't make sense, to share the same filesystem for backing up Windows and Linux? You keep saying

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:43:41 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OP has inadvertently given us some valuable feedback, which stands on its own and is irrelevant with the fact that he (like many other non-gentoo users) had mistaken Gentoo for yet-another-binary-distro. Having a user

[gentoo-user] Re: Best anti-virus

2008-05-10 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 10 May 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: But I sure acknowledge the majority opinion - almost ALL Linux users, and many Windows users as well, choose not to run real-time AntiMalware scanners. I do this, and I do it for a perfectly obvious reason: Your suggestion

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 May 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008 16:43:41 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OP has inadvertently given us some valuable feedback, which stands on its own and is irrelevant with the fact that he (like many other non-gentoo users) had mistaken Gentoo

[gentoo-user] DVD Problems...

2008-05-10 Thread Benjamen R. Meyer
I recently got a couple seasons of Star Gate SG-1, and can read nearly all the DVDs except the 3rd DVD of Season 2, which under Kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 yielded the following error messags to dmesg: hdc: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: media error

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD Problems...

2008-05-10 Thread Andrey Falko
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Benjamen R. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently got a couple seasons of Star Gate SG-1, and can read nearly all the DVDs except the 3rd DVD of Season 2, which under Kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 yielded the following error messags to dmesg: hdc: media error

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:02:21 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: if you tar 'em up you don't even need to worry about the file permission capabilities of the underlying fs. Isn't that exactly what I said three wrong turns and four red herrings ago? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Ubuntu is an ancient

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:07:25 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: At least I wouldn't store everything in the same directory. It would of course be a good idea to seperate things. sigh When did I ever mention using a single directory to mix up all backups? All I did was answer a question with an

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD Problems...

2008-05-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Benjamen R. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently got a couple seasons of Star Gate SG-1, and can read nearly all the DVDs except the 3rd DVD of Season 2, which under Kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 yielded the following error messags to dmesg: hdc: media error

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Mick
On Saturday 10 May 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Ah, but www.gentoo.org/doc actually does contain decent INFORMATION in a manner that I can find. Right, but I can think of better ways to search through it by category, by keyword, by arch, by whatever, than just use Google. All I ever seem to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: back up gentoo system

2008-05-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 10. Mai 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:02:21 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: if you tar 'em up you don't even need to worry about the file permission capabilities of the underlying fs. Isn't that exactly what I said three wrong turns and four red herrings

Re: [gentoo-user] Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 00:00 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Yep, gentoo.org really seems to have been created from devs and users for devs and users. There is nothing like a Features page or Why to choose Gentoo for newcomers. Heck, you have to search hard to even learn whether it is suitable

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best anti-virus

2008-05-10 Thread Tony Caudel
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 3:35 PM, 7v5w7go9ub0o [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 10 May 2008, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: But I sure acknowledge the majority opinion - almost ALL Linux users, and many Windows users as well, choose not to run real-time AntiMalware scanners.