Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. You can get a SATA-to-IDE adapter for a few dollars. That should significantly open up your buying options, since nearly everything is SATA now. There's a idea. Last time I looked they were pretty pricey. I could then use the new drive in the new rig I am saving up to build. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani Good idea. Back to newegg. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] kvm and intel E5450 processor
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:17:13PM -0500, Penguin Lover James Erickson squawked: today i installed two quad core Intel Xeon E5450's (Harpertown). i notice in /proc/cpuinfo i no longer have a vmx flag as i had with my previous Intel E5405's. i have also noticed that my /dev/kvm device is no longer created. VT is enabled in the bios. the data for the E5450's states that they have Intel Virtualization Technology. so why dont i have a /dev/kvm? have i spent all that money on processors that can't use kvm? can anyone shed some light on this issue for me? i am confused. A first, possibly dumb, question I'd ask is: Was kvm support compiled into the kernel? W -- This sentence no verb. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1021 days, 7:21
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote: Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10 also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 . it is a bug. If you search for it you'll find it. cc yourself to be informed if something happens. Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ? no. You need systemsettings. kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so. You need systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way. There is always the hard one - edit config files would like to have smaller icons no accompanying descriptions. you can change it to do that ;)
[gentoo-user] QT4 Development
Hi all I want to install QT4 for development. Since the QT4 meta ebuild is masked, I am not sure what split packages are needed. http://dev.gentoo.org/~yngwin/qt4-split-ebuilds.xml only tells me what to install for applications depending on QT4. Thanks for your help! -- Regards, Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] QT4 Development
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: Hi all I want to install QT4 for development. Since the QT4 meta ebuild is masked, I am not sure what split packages are needed. http://dev.gentoo.org/~yngwin/qt4-split-ebuilds.xml only tells me what to install for applications depending on QT4. Thanks for your help! -- Regards, Marco just install the qt4 set. Meta packages are being phased out. Or unmask the meta package. /etc/portage/package.unmask.
Re: [gentoo-user] QT4 Development
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: [...] just install the qt4 set. Meta packages are being phased out. Not sure if I understand what you mean. I thought sets only exist for world and system? Or unmask the meta package. /etc/portage/package.unmask. That's what I want to avoid since apparently this meta package gets removed in the future. -- Regards, Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] QT4 Development
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: [...] just install the qt4 set. Meta packages are being phased out. Not sure if I understand what you mean. I thought sets only exist for world and system? Or unmask the meta package. /etc/portage/package.unmask. That's what I want to avoid since apparently this meta package gets removed in the future. -- Regards, Marco so what? it really does not matter if it is there or not. And no - with 2.2* portage there are many more sets than just world and system. You can even easily create your own.
Re: [gentoo-user] QT4 Development
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: [...] just install the qt4 set. Meta packages are being phased out. Not sure if I understand what you mean. I thought sets only exist for world and system? Or unmask the meta package. /etc/portage/package.unmask. That's what I want to avoid since apparently this meta package gets removed in the future. -- Regards, Marco so what? it really does not matter if it is there or not. And no - with 2.2* portage there are many more sets than just world and system. You can even easily create your own. Well, I try to avoid installing such packages to not have migration issues later. And, yes, portage 2.2* apparently supports many more sets, but portage 2.2* is still masked and I don't know if there is a potental risk to use it already.
Re: [gentoo-user] QT4 Development
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Marco wrote: [...] just install the qt4 set. Meta packages are being phased out. Not sure if I understand what you mean. I thought sets only exist for world and system? Or unmask the meta package. /etc/portage/package.unmask. That's what I want to avoid since apparently this meta package gets removed in the future. -- Regards, Marco so what? it really does not matter if it is there or not. And no - with 2.2* portage there are many more sets than just world and system. You can even easily create your own. Well, I try to avoid installing such packages to not have migration issues later. you won't. The meta package is just a wrapper around splits. If it goes away - so what? the splits still remain and are still updated. Only depclean might screw you - in that case just install them via set. And, yes, portage 2.2* apparently supports many more sets, but portage 2.2* is still masked and I don't know if there is a potental risk to use it already. and as long as portage 2.2 is masked, metas will stay around ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] [ot General Textmode q]
On Wednesday 23 September 2009 07:20:42 Mick wrote: I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or Shift+I, or Shift+Insert? I think the difficulty is the need to synchronise the two paste buffers: keyboard and mouse. -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text (console) mode? Or using the touch pad thing somehow. I've tried pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it has no effect. In console the copy-paste is provided by GPM. And I thought GPM paste is right mouse key, not middle key. And I am also pretty sure that GPM does not do third button emulation the way X does. I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste. To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm to stick with 2-button mode. I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or Shift+I, or Shift+Insert? None of those do what I'm after here. Someone answered that screen can do the kind of thing I talked about ... and yet it can.
Re: [gentoo-user] Frame-buffer modes on an eee-pc
On Tuesday 22 September 2009 18:33:30 Daniel da Veiga wrote: As an owner (701 and 900), I researched a lot, and found this: http://code.toofishes.net/cgit/dan/eee.git/tree/kernel-eee/kernelconfig An interesting link - thanks. His hardware differs from mine and it's not easy to pick out the differences I want from those I don't; I think I've got most of the right things though. Its an Arch developer that makes a binary package (an eee specific kernel), but he publishes all info using git (including the kernel config file). You can use that to compile your own kernel and it will give you a perfectly working framebuffer at native resolution (800x480 in 701, and 1024x600 in 900). I do now have a 127x37 text console, which looks like the one I described but is activated earlier. It'll do nicely. I assume it's 1024x600. Two problems remain (until I solve those and expose the next layer!): 1. On starting X I find that the keyboard and mouse are not connected. I can ssh in and reboot the machine, so it's still alive - just not responsive to me at the keyboard. I've tried an xorg.conf from X -configure, and I've tried without. More investigation to do here. 2. The wireless network. This uses an Atheros chip, device 168c:002b, not quite the same as the chips described on gentoo-wiki. Has anyone here got this system working? Do I need madwifi, for instance? The old laptop this netbook will replace has a madwifi installation that I could plagiarise. -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: iptables w/ 2 web servers
Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: I have one static IP ... Could someone post some simple iptable examples of how to route 2 different web server traffic streams to 2 different machines? Both are inside the same DMZ2 different machines with different (NAT) IP addresses. Can't be done. Ok, that explains why I drew a blank on how to proceed. There is no way for IPtables to distinguish between an http request to bigbreastedmommas.com at 24.73.161.102 and an http request to bouncyboobs.com at 24.73.161.102, assuming both are on port 80. So the best I can do is forward all traffic( 80, 443, etc) for the group of websites to a proxy behind the firewall, then use software such as what kashani suggested (proxypass, Squid, ngnix, lighttpd, or Varnish) and parse the traffic with some form of vhosts implementation on a single server (nated IP)? I definately do not want to run anything additional on the firewall, unless it is absolutely secure and then it would have to have an light loading of firewall resources. Then if the load of the combined virtual hostings becomes too large, I use a group (cluster) of servers that and implement some sort of load balancing across the machines that each contain complete copies of each website? Then there is the question of how to keep the individual machines 'in sync' and the limitation that once a machine is saturated (performance suffers too much due to insufficient resources) there is no solution for expansion? One last thing. I can get a small subnet of say 5 IP address from my ISP for an additional 20/month. That that help me? I want to put up dozens of small charitable web sites. None will have a huge user base, but I was going to stream some limited video from each of them. Any other architectual solutions here? (outside hosting is not an option). My ISP is very cool, and will even let me run my own primary and secondary name service, if that helps redirect the traffic? Ideas? James
Re: [gentoo-user] kvm and intel E5450 processor
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 22:17 -0500, James Erickson wrote: today i installed two quad core Intel Xeon E5450's (Harpertown). i notice in /proc/cpuinfo i no longer have a vmx flag as i had with my previous Intel E5405's. i have also noticed that my /dev/kvm device is no longer created. VT is enabled in the bios. the data for the E5450's states that they have Intel Virtualization Technology. so why dont i have a /dev/kvm? have i spent all that money on processors that can't use kvm? can anyone shed some light on this issue for me? i am confused. James Erickson __ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now hmm?? Wikipedia says you have VT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Harpertown.22_.28standard-voltage.2C_45_nm.29 In case this is because of modules problem: You have to en/dis/able: CONFIG_HAVE_KVM=y CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQCHIP=y CONFIG_KVM=m # CONFIG_KVM_INTEL is not set # CONFIG_KVM_AMD is not set # CONFIG_KVM_TRACE is not set (Possibly reboot if compile is in wrong directory, or check /usr/src/linux points to correct version.) Then you emerge: app-emulation/kvm-kmod (and app-emulation/kvm :) It is now necessary to have CONFIG_KVM=m and the CPU-specifics OFF and use the modules from app-emulation/kvm-kmod. That results in: /lib/modules/2.6.30-tuxonice-r5.mayo.nofb/kernel/arch/x86/kvm /lib/modules/2.6.30-tuxonice-r5.mayo.nofb/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-tuxonice-r5.mayo.nofb/kvm /lib/modules/2.6.30-tuxonice-r5.mayo.nofb/kvm/kvm.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-tuxonice-r5.mayo.nofb/kvm/kvm-intel.ko /lib/modules/2.6.30-tuxonice-r5.mayo.nofb/kvm/kvm-amd.ko Which seems strange, but works :) (You load kvm-intel.ko which loads the correct kvm.ko) Bye, Daniel -- PGP key @ http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=0xBB9D4887op=get # gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0xBB9D4887 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text (console) mode? Or using the touch pad thing somehow. I've tried pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it has no effect. In console the copy-paste is provided by GPM. And I thought GPM paste is right mouse key, not middle key. And I am also pretty sure that GPM does not do third button emulation the way X does. I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste. To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm to stick with 2-button mode. I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or Shift+I, or Shift+Insert? None of those do what I'm after here. Someone answered that screen can do the kind of thing I talked about ... and yet it can. ^yes
[gentoo-user] Re: QT4 Development
On 09/24/2009 01:01 PM, Marco wrote: Hi all I want to install QT4 for development. Since the QT4 meta ebuild is masked, I am not sure what split packages are needed. http://dev.gentoo.org/~yngwin/qt4-split-ebuilds.xml only tells me what to install for applications depending on QT4. Just start with qt-gui. It will become obvious later if you need something else. For example if you try to use the sql features of Qt and you get not found errors about headers from GCC, you then install qt-sql. If you do OpenGL in Qt and get errors again, install qt-opengl, etc, etc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: iptables w/ 2 web servers
James wrote: So the best I can do is forward all traffic( 80, 443, etc) for the group of websites to a proxy behind the firewall, then use software such as what kashani suggested (proxypass, Squid, ngnix, lighttpd, or Varnish) and parse the traffic with some form of vhosts implementation on a single server (nated IP)? That's not quite correct. Let's assume you don't install anything on the firewall. Instead you'll forward port 80 to a single server internally on port 4080 which you've set Squid, Varnish, Ngnix, or Lighttpd to listen on. internet - firewall:80 - server1:4080 Your proxy accepts the connection and then looks at its config or in most case the proxy is smart enough to use DNS to go to the server it needs. Using DNS might be an issue in your case since the IPs will resolve to the single public IP. site1 - server1:80 site2 - server2:80 site3 - server3:3128 site4 - server1:80 site5 - server123.dreamhost.com:80 site6 - localhost:80 site6/newapp - server7:80 site6/newapp1 - server8:80 and so on. You can really do just about anything here. All connections are going to come through your proxy, but the serving of the pages will be done by the web servers. I would not worry about the number of connections to your proxy, all the proxy solutions list above about are capable of handling a few thousand connections. Here's the link to the Apache proxy module. It should give you some ideas on what you can do. I recommend using some other proxy software than Apache just to simplify the setup and make it easier to hold the system in your head. Also prefork Apache is the slowest and uses the most resources of your options which is another reason to use a seperate proxy. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: iptables w/ 2 web servers
On 24 Sep 2009, at 16:30, James wrote: ... So the best I can do is forward all traffic( 80, 443, etc) for the group of websites to a proxy behind the firewall, then use software such as what kashani suggested (proxypass, Squid, ngnix, lighttpd, or Varnish) and parse the traffic with some form of vhosts implementation on a single server (nated IP)? I think you can simply forward to server A. If the site is on server A then it's served, if it's on server B then in the vhosts for that site on server A you can proxy for server B. Of course if server A goes down then you're stuffed. Then if the load of the combined virtual hostings becomes too large, I use a group (cluster) of servers that and implement some sort of load balancing across the machines that each contain complete copies of each website? Then there is the question of how to keep the individual machines 'in sync' and the limitation that once a machine is saturated (performance suffers too much due to insufficient resources) there is no solution for expansion? This surely exceeds what you'll be hosting on a NATted home connection? One last thing. I can get a small subnet of say 5 IP address from my ISP for an additional 20/month. That that help me? I want to put up dozens of small charitable web sites. None will have a huge user base, but I was going to stream some limited video from each of them. Yes, this certainly overcomes the original problem. You have a separate IP for each server and the DNS for each site directs appropriately. Not all routers support this configuration and, 5 years ago, I found it a little cumbersome to set it up in Linux (it's called bridging). No doubt the situation has improved a lot since then. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild
Hello, I keep getting this mesaage on one particulary system: existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/readline-6.0_p3 * - /lib64/libreadline.so * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5 * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5.2 * used by /usr/bin/calgebra (kde-base/kalgebra-4.2.4) So I've rebuilt kalgegra, readline and revdep-rebuild comes up clean. I ran 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' numerous times and still I get this error message. Ideas on cleaning this up? It just happens on one system out of a dozen/plus gentoo boxes I manage.. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mpd issues
On 9/8/09, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Doing it again. Only change is to tell the conf to get debuggy. Unit boots; last three lines before login: Starting Music Player Daemon Starting local Stopping Music Player Daemon This after several successful boots with no problem. Nothing in mpd.log A clue? Seems to occur when I'm mobile(this is an Asus netbook BTW) and I have to enter the BIOS to turn the wifi on(I know, there's a key to do this but it doesn't work, yet). OK, more info: Music Player Daemon turns itself on, then off ONLY when the battery is in place and the AC adapter is unplugged. Strange, no? Something about setting up the battery sensing stuff causes MPD to shut down(my theory). Like I said, I upped the debug level and when the daemon starts there's a message ending with 'daemon: daemonized! daemon: writing pid file'. And if the battery only is being used the daemon stops, but there's no message other than 'Stopping Music Player Daemon'.
Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I keep getting this mesaage on one particulary system: existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/readline-6.0_p3 * - /lib64/libreadline.so * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5 * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5.2 * used by /usr/bin/calgebra (kde-base/kalgebra-4.2.4) So I've rebuilt kalgegra, readline and revdep-rebuild comes up clean. I ran 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' numerous times and still I get this error message. Ideas on cleaning this up? Read the message to the end: you have to do emerge @preserved-rebuild Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Instituto de Matemáticas Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I keep getting this mesaage on one particulary system: existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/readline-6.0_p3 * - /lib64/libreadline.so * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5 * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5.2 * used by /usr/bin/calgebra (kde-base/kalgebra-4.2.4) So I've rebuilt kalgegra, readline and revdep-rebuild comes up clean. I ran 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' numerous times and still I get this error message. Ideas on cleaning this up? It just happens on one system out of a dozen/plus gentoo boxes I manage.. Rather than rebuilding kalgebra, unmerge it completely then emerge it again. It might be a problem with the emerge process for that package not using the latest version for some reason, so it is rebuilding against the old libs (which therefore remain preserved).
Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I keep getting this mesaage on one particulary system: existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/readline-6.0_p3 * - /lib64/libreadline.so * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5 * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5.2 * used by /usr/bin/calgebra (kde-base/kalgebra-4.2.4) So I've rebuilt kalgegra, readline and revdep-rebuild comes up clean. I ran 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' numerous times and still I get this error message. Ideas on cleaning this up? Read the message to the end: you have to do emerge @preserved-rebuild Regards. He did, according to the post, he ran it numerous times. It seems to be looping itself which could be a portage bug or something funny about the package not building correctly with the new libs. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Dale wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) :-) it is a pci-x card and expensive. Try to get a nice pci or pcie card. remember: pci-x is NOT pci-express
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA built-in. :) This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028 As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck, especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and quick. For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of something like this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Dale wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Thanks for the help. Dale :-) :-) it is a pci-x card and expensive. Try to get a nice pci or pcie card. remember: pci-x is NOT pci-express This is a older system. It has those wide connectors. It's a Abit nf7 V 2.0 mobo. No S or M in the model. This link has a picture of my mobo. http://www.cyfinity.com/tag/watts/ That is not my system, just a pic of the same mobo. I found it with google and just picked it at random. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] USB drive dead? (Commands to check?)
On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: What's with Linux support of external drives? Is it just not reliable enough to depend on? This was not a drive failure but just a bunch of sense code message problems and everything quit. I probably could have spent time removing drivers, etc, and then restarting it but I just rebooted and everything came back. I used to use this drive for weeks at a time on one of my Windows boxes. No problems at that time so I have no strong reason to suspect the drive when this is the second drive issue in a few days wit this system. I wonder how I determine if it's a drive problem or a kernel/driver problem? I wonder if you have a memory problem with that box? I don't know what errors you've been getting in the logs, but it is a thought when the common denominator is the box. Have you tried running memtest86+ overnight to see what gives? Another reason might be the physical location. If the drives in question are submitted to physical vibration (e.g. next to a door; staircase, etc) then the failures could be due to mechanical reasons. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Dale wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new external drives are starting to support it. This looks to be your best choice. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free slot and verify that slot type before buying something. kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA built-in. :) This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028 As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck, especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and quick. For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of something like this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537 I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal connectors. I may have to have a external drive one day soon. I'm about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5 to 5 1/4 adapters. They always give me grief. I see what you mean on the little adapter. Wouldn't be any faster tho would it? Wish they had that at newegg too. I cold order both at the same time. o_O It is CHEAP too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA built-in. :) This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028 As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck, especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and quick. For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of something like this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537 I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal connectors. I may have to have a external drive one day soon. I'm about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5 to 5 1/4 adapters. They always give me grief. I see what you mean on the little adapter. Wouldn't be any faster tho would it? Wish they had that at newegg too. I cold order both at the same time. o_O It is CHEAP too. DealExtreme is in Hong Kong so it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks to get things from there to here (in USA), but the prices are ridiculously low and they have just about everything when it comes to small adapters and USB gizmos. For external drives it might be easier to use USB (assuming you have USB 2.0 on that system). It might even be faster than eSata through a PCI card. I have an external USB hard drive and get consistantly around 35MiB/sec read and write speed...
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA built-in. :) This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028 As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck, especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and quick. For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of something like this: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537 I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal connectors. I may have to have a external drive one day soon. I'm about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5 to 5 1/4 adapters. They always give me grief. I see what you mean on the little adapter. Wouldn't be any faster tho would it? Wish they had that at newegg too. I cold order both at the same time. o_O It is CHEAP too. DealExtreme is in Hong Kong so it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks to get things from there to here (in USA), but the prices are ridiculously low and they have just about everything when it comes to small adapters and USB gizmos. For external drives it might be easier to use USB (assuming you have USB 2.0 on that system). It might even be faster than eSata through a PCI card. I have an external USB hard drive and get consistantly around 35MiB/sec read and write speed... USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new external drives are starting to support it. This looks to be your best choice. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free slot and verify that slot type before buying something. kashani OK. Lets see if my muddy water has cleared up any. I can use the same drives on either a SATA or a eSATA its just that the cable is different? The eSATA cable is shielded where the internal one is not. No difference in speed or anything, just the cable? Correct? That's how I read the link. Your link to newegg is a good one. It only has two ports which may work if I don't have to buy any more drives before my new build. It is cheaper too. Jeez, they fill up fast on DSL. LOL Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I assume that the eSATA means external or is that something else? Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since it also says SATA II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new external drives are starting to support it. This looks to be your best choice. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free slot and verify that slot type before buying something. kashani OK. Lets see if my muddy water has cleared up any. I can use the same drives on either a SATA or a eSATA its just that the cable is different? The eSATA cable is shielded where the internal one is not. No difference in speed or anything, just the cable? Correct? That's how I read the link. Your link to newegg is a good one. It only has two ports which may work if I don't have to buy any more drives before my new build. It is cheaper too. Jeez, they fill up fast on DSL. LOL I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, but they are the technically same (you can buy simple adapters...). Also, another Gotcha to watch out for is that sometimes motherboard or controller cards with both internal SATA and external eSATA ports don't support using both types at the same time. My last two motherboard were this way. 4 internal SATA and 2 eSATA but only 4 devices in total can be used at any time. Caveat emptor. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
snip On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, but they are the technically same (you can buy simple adapters...). I'm don't think that the connectors are different enough to care about - I had (in a previous life/system) a PCI SATA interface card that had both internal SATA and an eSATA connector, and when I ran out of regular internal SATA connectors, I just used a regular SATA cable, plugged into the eSATA port, then ran the cable back in through an empty expansion slot in the case, and hooked it up to a regular internal SATA driver - worked like a champ... ;) -James
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On 2009-09-24, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, but they are the technically same (you can buy simple adapters...). They're compatible but not technically the same. The electrical specs for eSATA are stricter and provide more margin for noise and signal loss. I once used an internal-to-external adapter to connect an external drive to a normal motherboard SATA port. It worked most of the time, but there were occasional problems. [For all I know the same problems might have occurred if the drive was internal.] I'm don't think that the connectors are different enough to care about - I had (in a previous life/system) a PCI SATA interface card that had both internal SATA and an eSATA connector, and when I ran out of regular internal SATA connectors, I just used a regular SATA cable, plugged into the eSATA port, then ran the cable back in through an empty expansion slot in the case, and hooked it up to a regular internal SATA driver - worked like a champ... ;) The two connector types are supposed to be physically incompatible, but we'll take your word for it that you can make them mate. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Will the third world at war keep Bosom Buddies visi.comoff the air?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote: On 2009-09-24, James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com wrote: snip I'm don't think that the connectors are different enough to care about - I had (in a previous life/system) a PCI SATA interface card that had both internal SATA and an eSATA connector, and when I ran out of regular internal SATA connectors, I just used a regular SATA cable, plugged into the eSATA port, then ran the cable back in through an empty expansion slot in the case, and hooked it up to a regular internal SATA driver - worked like a champ... ;) The two connector types are supposed to be physically incompatible, but we'll take your word for it that you can make them mate. It may very well be that the cheap adapter card I bought decided that having a SATA port on the outside made it an eSATA port, as I didn't run into any difficulty in plugging in the regular SATA cable. ;) -James
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. Perhaps it's new or at least newer computer time? kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. Perhaps it's new or at least newer computer time? kashani It's in the planning stages now. AMD 4 core CPU with hopefully a HUGE hard drive. I'm working on it but I have to save up some cash first. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: @preserved-rebuild
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I keep getting this mesaage on one particulary system: existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/readline-6.0_p3 * - /lib64/libreadline.so * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5 * - /lib64/libreadline.so.5.2 * used by /usr/bin/calgebra (kde-base/kalgebra-4.2.4) So I've rebuilt kalgegra, readline and revdep-rebuild comes up clean. I ran 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' numerous times and still I get this error message. Ideas on cleaning this up? It just happens on one system out of a dozen/plus gentoo boxes I manage.. Rather than rebuilding kalgebra, unmerge it completely then emerge it again. It might be a problem with the emerge process for that package not using the latest version for some reason, so it is rebuilding against the old libs (which therefore remain preserved). Also, try removing /lib64/libreadline.so (not .so.5 or .so.5.2 !) first, so that kalgebra is forced to link against /usr/lib64/libreadline.so (which ends up pointing at /lib64/libreadline.so.6). My guess is that for some reason the linker is looking in /lib64 before checking /usr/lib64, and finding the wrong file first. - -- Jonathan Callen (ABCD) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkq73xcACgkQOypDUo0oQOqriACfSrdCwExsBbmkSYLXqVQALWxT Yd4An2VAYc0Gy5Slx94QeKKbV+gceqeg =rgNN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] dhcpcd-5.1.1 compiling error
Hi all, I get the following errors when compiling net-misc/dhcpcd-5.1.1. Do you know which package net/if_dl.h and net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h are belong to? if-bsd.c:37:23: error: net/if_dl.h: No such file or directory if-bsd.c:43:40: error: net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h: No such file or directory Thanks a lot Hung
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries
090924 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote: Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10 also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 . it is a bug. If you search for it you'll find it. I plan to add to the Konsole bug re 'geometry' look up other bugs, when I've finished basic exploration testing. Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ? no. kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so. You need systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way. There is always the hard one - edit config files Actually, that's what I might look into: Kcontrol is its dependency. would like to have smaller icons no accompanying descriptions. you can change it to do that ;) So how (smile) ? -- ie without running the KDE 4 desktop. Thanks for your clear helpful advice. PS does anyone have advice re the 3rd issue, Kworldclock vs Marble ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.1 : further queries
On 09/25/2009 12:34 AM, Philip Webb wrote: Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ? no. kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so. You need systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way. There is always the hard one - edit config files Actually, that's what I might look into: Kcontrol is its dependency. would like to have smaller icons no accompanying descriptions. you can change it to do that ;) So how (smile) ? -- ie without running the KDE 4 desktop. It's best to install the full KDE 4 desktop to avoid any such headaches and other misbehavior. You should be able to select KDE3 or KDE4 at the KDM login screen. You should not be able to fully configure KDE 4 from within KDE 3 and vice versa. Switching fully to KDE 4 is pretty much the only sane solution; using KDE 3 apps from within KDE 4 is going to be better than the opposite, simply because the KDE 3 apps you need ought to be much fewer compared to KDE 4 apps. If you find that KDE 4 doesn't really suit you, it might be best to switch to another desktop environment. :P
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries
Philip Webb schrieb: The version for 3.5.10 doesn't work on the Fluxbox desktop: it opens but lacks the list of options on the left side. The version for 3.5.10 can configure only kde3 apps. If you have no kde 3.5 to configure on your system kcontrol has nothing to show in the left panel. Would I have more success with 4.3.1 (there are 8 dependencies)? I would say so, but i can't say for sure, because I don't use Fluxbox. KDE 4-Apps can only be configured with systemsettings (or by editing the config files by hand). Greetings Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote: 090924 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote: Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10 also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 . it is a bug. If you search for it you'll find it. I plan to add to the Konsole bug re 'geometry' look up other bugs, when I've finished basic exploration testing. Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ? no. kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so. You need systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way. There is always the hard one - edit config files Actually, that's what I might look into: Kcontrol is its dependency. would like to have smaller icons no accompanying descriptions. you can change it to do that ;) So how (smile) ? -- ie without running the KDE 4 desktop. either in systemsettings or in the config files ;) Everything is in .kde(or .kde4 or .kde4.3)/share/config in systemsettings symbol size is in... ehm... Look (? Erscheinungsbild in german ), Symbols, advanced (or how it is called in english). There you can change Symbol sizes for toolbars. Text under icons can be deactivated under 'Style' 'Details'. or you open the config file for every app ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?
As mentioned yesterday, I now do all emerges in a chroot on my desktop to build binary packages, then emerge -k on the Eee, so Ooo only takes 90 minutes now. The only compiling I do on the Eee is kernel changes. I've decided to give your method a whirl. Are you talking about distcc here? That would require a gcc upgrade on the desktop to match the Eee's, no? Can you cite a howto or tutorial for your method? Or, perhaps flesh it out with a few more details. Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:54:57 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: As mentioned yesterday, I now do all emerges in a chroot on my desktop to build binary packages, then emerge -k on the Eee, so Ooo only takes 90 minutes now. The only compiling I do on the Eee is kernel changes. I've decided to give your method a whirl. Are you talking about distcc here? That would require a gcc upgrade on the desktop to match the Eee's, no? Can you cite a howto or tutorial for your method? Or, perhaps flesh it out with a few more details. I did in another post, probably the mentioned yesterday one. I'm not talking about distcc, although it does use that also. I have a copy of my Eee in a directory on my desktop that I chroot into in the same way that you do for installation. FEATURES includes buildpkg and $PKGDIR is an NFS share accessed by bother. Then I just do emerge -u @world in the chroot followed by emerge -uK @world on the Eee. There's a little more to it than that, I also sync /etc/portage and /var/lib/world* from the Eee to the chroot in the script that starts up the chroot. -- #!/bin/sh rsync -a --delete krikkit:/etc/portage/ /mnt/eee/etc/portage/ rsync -a --delete krikkit:/var/lib/portage/world\* /mnt/eee/var/lib/portage/ mount -t proc none /mnt/eee/proc mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/eee/dev mount --bind /usr/portage /mnt/eee/usr/portage mount --bind /mnt/portage /mnt/eee/mnt/portage mount --bind /var/tmp/eee /mnt/eee/var/tmp sudo su - -c chroot /mnt/eee /bin/zsh sudo umount /mnt/eee/dev sudo umount /mnt/eee/proc sudo umount /mnt/eee/usr/portage sudo umount /mnt/eee/mnt/portage sudo umount /mnt/eee/var/tmp -- /mnt/portage is the NFS share containing $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR. -- Neil Bothwick Feature : BUG with seniority. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How often -uD world?
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:07:26 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: sudo su - -c chroot /mnt/eee /bin/zsh That sudo shouldn't be there, the script used to use sudo for the commands, but now I just run it as root. -- Neil Bothwick It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. There are so many interesting posts in this thread I don't know which one to reply to :o) Just FYI, USB 3 has just been ratified, so we can expect ultra-fast USB-3 drives in the (near?) future, which should be as fast or faster than SATA-II. The point I really want to make is regarding your question about which disk drive to buy. I have drives from three different manufacturers at the moment, and they are all superb and incredibly cheap -- but that low cost comes at a price (does that make any sense?). I've had to return two drives in the last three years or so because of catastrophic failure while still under warranty (amazing!). In both cases the replacement drives have been absolutely perfect for years now. In other words, disk manufacturers have apparently decided to abandon strict quality control in favor of low price, and seem happy to replace failed drives as a substitute for quality control. It must be a profitable strategy because they all seem to be doing it. But be prepared for drive failures from *every* manufacturer -- and then buy whatever is on sale for the lowest price.
[gentoo-user] Re: dhcpcd-5.1.1 compiling error
On 09/24/2009 02:06 PM, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I get the following errors when compiling net-misc/dhcpcd-5.1.1. Do you know which package net/if_dl.h and net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h are belong to? if-bsd.c:37:23: error: net/if_dl.h: No such file or directory if-bsd.c:43:40: error: net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h: No such file or directory I'm sorry but I don't know. I see that the ebuild mentions the KEYWORDS ~sparc-fbsd and ~x86-fbsd. Are you using one of those platforms?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dhcpcd-5.1.1 compiling error
Hi Walt, This is a AMD64 system. The interesting thing is I have another system which has similar USE flags and it does not have those header files , however, I can compile this version of dhcpcd without any problem. Thanks Hung walt wrote: On 09/24/2009 02:06 PM, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I get the following errors when compiling net-misc/dhcpcd-5.1.1. Do you know which package net/if_dl.h and net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h are belong to? if-bsd.c:37:23: error: net/if_dl.h: No such file or directory if-bsd.c:43:40: error: net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h: No such file or directory I'm sorry but I don't know. I see that the ebuild mentions the KEYWORDS ~sparc-fbsd and ~x86-fbsd. Are you using one of those platforms?
[gentoo-user] Re: dhcpcd-5.1.1 compiling error
On 09/25/2009 03:22 AM, Hung Dang wrote: walt wrote: On 09/24/2009 02:06 PM, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I get the following errors when compiling net-misc/dhcpcd-5.1.1. Do you know which package net/if_dl.h and net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h are belong to? if-bsd.c:37:23: error: net/if_dl.h: No such file or directory if-bsd.c:43:40: error: net80211/ieee80211_ioctl.h: No such file or directory I'm sorry but I don't know. I see that the ebuild mentions the KEYWORDS ~sparc-fbsd and ~x86-fbsd. Are you using one of those platforms? Hi Walt, This is a AMD64 system. The interesting thing is I have another system which has similar USE flags and it does not have those header files , however, I can compile this version of dhcpcd without any problem. If this is an AMD64 system, then something has gone totally haywire; the errors you posted indicate that dhcpcd thinks it's being compiled on BSD. if-bsd.c is a source file that does not get compiled on Linux; if-linux.c does. Can you post your emerge --info? Maybe someone can spot something wrong in it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.1 : further queries
090925 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: If you find that KDE 4 doesn't really suit you, it might be best to switch to another desktop environment. As I've mentioned several times in earlier msg/threads, I started using Fluxbox as desktop manager 0904xx (previously KDE 3). I don't like the KDE 4 desktop prefer not to install apps I don't use. Anyway, thanks to all for the clarification re 'Systemsettings': I may try installing it + dependencies see whether it helps. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
walt wrote: On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. There are so many interesting posts in this thread I don't know which one to reply to :o) Just FYI, USB 3 has just been ratified, so we can expect ultra-fast USB-3 drives in the (near?) future, which should be as fast or faster than SATA-II. The point I really want to make is regarding your question about which disk drive to buy. I have drives from three different manufacturers at the moment, and they are all superb and incredibly cheap -- but that low cost comes at a price (does that make any sense?). I've had to return two drives in the last three years or so because of catastrophic failure while still under warranty (amazing!). In both cases the replacement drives have been absolutely perfect for years now. In other words, disk manufacturers have apparently decided to abandon strict quality control in favor of low price, and seem happy to replace failed drives as a substitute for quality control. It must be a profitable strategy because they all seem to be doing it. But be prepared for drive failures from *every* manufacturer -- and then buy whatever is on sale for the lowest price. One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even better still from the mechanical point of view. I remember this from when I rebuilt my Moms old motor in her car years ago. It said in the book and from several mechanics, once you crank it, run it for at least 30 minutes and at different rpms. The longer the better. It should get to its normal temperature before even thinking about cutting it off. Do NOT cut the engine off unless it is really serious. The first few minutes that a motor runs is crucial. If you start it and just run it a couple minutes, it won't ever be the same. I was also told that driving it is really good. I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your beer in it or it getting hit by lightening or something like that. I have two 80Gb drives right now. One is a Maxtor and the other is a Western Digital. I bet there is a few people on this list that hate each one because they had one that failed. I haven't had any trouble with mine at all. They all fail eventually tho. I just hope one of mine fails when there is nothing important on it is all. ;-) Still comparing all the options. I got to start looking for a good SATA drive now. Just when I had a decent IDE drive all picked out too. LOL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. There are so many interesting posts in this thread I don't know which one to reply to :o) Just FYI, USB 3 has just been ratified, so we can expect ultra-fast USB-3 drives in the (near?) future, which should be as fast or faster than SATA-II. The point I really want to make is regarding your question about which disk drive to buy. I have drives from three different manufacturers at the moment, and they are all superb and incredibly cheap -- but that low cost comes at a price (does that make any sense?). I've had to return two drives in the last three years or so because of catastrophic failure while still under warranty (amazing!). In both cases the replacement drives have been absolutely perfect for years now. In other words, disk manufacturers have apparently decided to abandon strict quality control in favor of low price, and seem happy to replace failed drives as a substitute for quality control. It must be a profitable strategy because they all seem to be doing it. But be prepared for drive failures from *every* manufacturer -- and then buy whatever is on sale for the lowest price. One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even better still from the mechanical point of view. I remember this from when I rebuilt my Moms old motor in her car years ago. It said in the book and from several mechanics, once you crank it, run it for at least 30 minutes and at different rpms. The longer the better. It should get to its normal temperature before even thinking about cutting it off. Do NOT cut the engine off unless it is really serious. The first few minutes that a motor runs is crucial. If you start it and just run it a couple minutes, it won't ever be the same. I was also told that driving it is really good. I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your beer in it or it getting hit by lightening or something like that. I have two 80Gb drives right now. One is a Maxtor and the other is a Western Digital. I bet there is a few people on this list that hate each one because they had one that failed. I haven't had any trouble with mine at all. They all fail eventually tho. I just hope one of mine fails when there is nothing important on it is all. ;-) Still comparing all the options. I got to start looking for a good SATA drive now. Just when I had a decent IDE drive all picked out too. LOL When you look at hard drive reviews, they tend to be either 5 stars (Perfect! Never a problem after 10 years!) or 0 stars (Horrible, died after 2 minutes! I got 2 more and they did the same thing! etc). I don't think there are a lot of ways for a hard drive to go bad without it being catastrophic. Maybe bad sectors... but I consider that catastrophic because they always seem to spread like cancer. If there is one bad sector on a drive, I simply can't trust it. That being said, I've had lots of hard drives from many brands and the best combinations of price/speed/reliability I've had is Samsung. I'm using 6 of them right now and after 2+ years of 24/7 usage none has died yet. I'm sure someone here will have a horror story about a Samsung drive to add to this thread. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
=== On Thu, 09/24, walt wrote: === In other words, disk manufacturers have apparently decided to abandon strict quality control in favor of low price, and seem happy to replace failed drives as a substitute for quality control. It must be a profitable strategy because they all seem to be doing it. === Yes, it's kind of sad. But I guess it makes some sense due the pace of innovation they become obsolete before they usually break. For example, I have some IBM Deskstar disks that are really high quality. They have been running non-stop for 10 years now! It's really amazing. However, they are only 9 GB disks that won't even hold a full bells-and-wistles Gentoo installation. -- Keith Dart -- -- Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz ===
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Dale wrote: I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your Yep, it's been studied and even has a a fun name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even better still from the mechanical point of view. I remember this from when I rebuilt my Moms old motor in her car years ago. It said in the book and from several mechanics, once you crank it, run it for at least 30 minutes and at different rpms. The longer the better. It should get to its normal temperature before even thinking about cutting it off. Do NOT cut the engine off unless it is really serious. The first few minutes that a motor runs is crucial. If you start it and just run it a couple minutes, it won't ever be the same. I was also told that driving it is really good. I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your beer in it or it getting hit by lightening or something like that. I have two 80Gb drives right now. One is a Maxtor and the other is a Western Digital. I bet there is a few people on this list that hate each one because they had one that failed. I haven't had any trouble with mine at all. They all fail eventually tho. I just hope one of mine fails when there is nothing important on it is all. ;-) Still comparing all the options. I got to start looking for a good SATA drive now. Just when I had a decent IDE drive all picked out too. LOL When you look at hard drive reviews, they tend to be either 5 stars (Perfect! Never a problem after 10 years!) or 0 stars (Horrible, died after 2 minutes! I got 2 more and they did the same thing! etc). I don't think there are a lot of ways for a hard drive to go bad without it being catastrophic. Maybe bad sectors... but I consider that catastrophic because they always seem to spread like cancer. If there is one bad sector on a drive, I simply can't trust it. That being said, I've had lots of hard drives from many brands and the best combinations of price/speed/reliability I've had is Samsung. I'm using 6 of them right now and after 2+ years of 24/7 usage none has died yet. I'm sure someone here will have a horror story about a Samsung drive to add to this thread. :) I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a way to get how many hours a drive has been running? I know I saw this before but no clue where it was. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your Yep, it's been studied and even has a a fun name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve kashani That would be it. You think about this tho. A hard drive has two things going against it. Electronic failure or mechanical failure. Mechanical usually happen with age, USUALLY. Electronics mostly fail at the beginning of life, USUALLY. There are exceptions to all this of course. So if one doesn't get it at the beginning, the other gets it in the end. :/ Weird huh? Can't win either way. Maybe we need a 60 day burn in period before being sold. That should help a little at least. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even better still from the mechanical point of view. I remember this from when I rebuilt my Moms old motor in her car years ago. It said in the book and from several mechanics, once you crank it, run it for at least 30 minutes and at different rpms. The longer the better. It should get to its normal temperature before even thinking about cutting it off. Do NOT cut the engine off unless it is really serious. The first few minutes that a motor runs is crucial. If you start it and just run it a couple minutes, it won't ever be the same. I was also told that driving it is really good. I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your beer in it or it getting hit by lightening or something like that. I have two 80Gb drives right now. One is a Maxtor and the other is a Western Digital. I bet there is a few people on this list that hate each one because they had one that failed. I haven't had any trouble with mine at all. They all fail eventually tho. I just hope one of mine fails when there is nothing important on it is all. ;-) Still comparing all the options. I got to start looking for a good SATA drive now. Just when I had a decent IDE drive all picked out too. LOL When you look at hard drive reviews, they tend to be either 5 stars (Perfect! Never a problem after 10 years!) or 0 stars (Horrible, died after 2 minutes! I got 2 more and they did the same thing! etc). I don't think there are a lot of ways for a hard drive to go bad without it being catastrophic. Maybe bad sectors... but I consider that catastrophic because they always seem to spread like cancer. If there is one bad sector on a drive, I simply can't trust it. That being said, I've had lots of hard drives from many brands and the best combinations of price/speed/reliability I've had is Samsung. I'm using 6 of them right now and after 2+ years of 24/7 usage none has died yet. I'm sure someone here will have a horror story about a Samsung drive to add to this thread. :) I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a way to get how many hours a drive has been running? I know I saw this before but no clue where it was. Dale :-) :-) smartctl -a
Re: [gentoo-user] kvm and intel E5450 processor
You have to en/dis/able: CONFIG_HAVE_KVM=y CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQCHIP=y CONFIG_KVM=m # CONFIG_KVM_INTEL is not set # CONFIG_KVM_AMD is not set # CONFIG_KVM_TRACE is not set Daniel i am getting the following error: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.31-gentoo' LD /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/built-in.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/svm.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/vmx.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/vmx-debug.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/kvm_main.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/x86.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/mmu.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/x86_emulate.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/../anon_inodes.o CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/irq.o In file included from /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/trace.h:355, from /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/x86.c:83: include/trace/define_trace.h:53:43: error: arch/x86/kvm/trace.h: No such file or directory CC [M] /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/i8259.o make[3]: *** [/dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/x86.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs In file included from /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/mmutrace.h:220, from /dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/mmu.c:184: include/trace/define_trace.h:53:43: error: ./mmutrace.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [/dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86/mmu.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop. make[2]: *** [/dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88/x86] Error 2 make[1]: *** [_module_/dev/shm/portage/app-emulation/kvm-kmod-88-r1/work/kvm-kmod-devel-88] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.31-gentoo' make: *** [all] Error 2 best regards James Erickson _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a way to get how many hours a drive has been running? I know I saw this before but no clue where it was. Dale :-) :-) smartctl -a That's the one. This look right? r...@smoker / # smartctl -a /dev/hda | grep Minutes 9 Power_On_Minutes0x0032 136 136 000Old_age Always - 297h+43m r...@smoker / # r...@smoker / # smartctl -a /dev/hdb | grep Hours 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 040 040 000Old_age Always - 44353 r...@smoker / # I know that first drive is older than that. I'm not sure about the other one either. That's a lot of hours. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] can't linux#make menuconfig -- Makefile gone
Hi group, I needed to configure iptables support into the kernel but when I tried to run make menuconfig got 'No rule to make target' error. The Makefile was gone. A casualty of a recent emerge -uDN world, I expect. So I ran distfiles# tar xvfj linux-2.6.29.tar.bz2 Makefile which told me 'tar: Makefile: Not found in archive' So where can I locate the Makefile for my kernel, assuming the above command is correct? Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.
kashani wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been trying to find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I don't have SATA on this rig. I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. SATA PCI card should be $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. kashani OK. I'm looking at these two SATA cards. I'm not sure which one yet. One has the external connector too. Sort of like that idea. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 For the hard drive, I'm liking this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395 I figure that will last me a little while. I found me a site to download the Law Order and NCIS shows now. Oh boy Anyone see anything wrong with that combination? Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] can't linux#make menuconfig -- Makefile gone
Maxim Wexler wrote: Hi group, I needed to configure iptables support into the kernel but when I tried to run make menuconfig got 'No rule to make target' error. The Makefile was gone. A casualty of a recent emerge -uDN world, I expect. So I ran distfiles# tar xvfj linux-2.6.29.tar.bz2 Makefile which told me 'tar: Makefile: Not found in archive' So where can I locate the Makefile for my kernel, assuming the above command is correct? Maxim Are you in the kernel directory? Should be /usr/src/linux if yours is like mine. Going by the prompt I see, you may be in the distfiles directory. Or did you name your puter distfiles? Dale :-) :-)
