Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Mike Gilbert wrote: Thanks for announcing this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night. Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or kernel-version. For example: /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.3 /boot/kernel-2.6.39-gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mike Gilbert wrote: Thanks for announcing this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night. Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or kernel-version.

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a difference between bzImage and

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:50:27 -0500, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a difference between

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:50:27 -0500, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mike Gilbert wrote: Thanks for announcing this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night. Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a difference between bzImage and

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, you should be fine renaming bzImage to vmlinuz. (Note the z. It's vmlinuz, not vmlinux) Well that fixed one thing already. lol I bet I would have named that wrong. ;-) vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-06-30, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Friday 29 June 2012 21:46:20 Grant Edwards wrote: Things have been going steadily downhill since the days of V7 on a PDP-11 with 256K words of RAM, a 20MB hard drive and uucp via dial-up modems for networking. Real programmers

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Neil Bothwick wrote: Seriously though, why not use make install? That way you know the right files get copied and given the expected names. Because I name my kernel and config the same thing. I also don't like the way it does that link thingy it does. It seems to expect

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 June 2012 15:52:13 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-06-30, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: The displays were graphic stroke writers, as used in submarines and other warships - none of that nasty raster technology. I think the display drivers were more complex than

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Hartmut Figge
Alex Schuster: I'll continue to use the old Grub, as it's working fine for me. And i am still happy with lilo. Am i the only one? ;) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Frank Peters
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:05:31 +0200 Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote: And i am still happy with lilo. Am i the only one? ;) Heck no. I use lilo on all of my LInux machines, and when the time comes to switch to EFI, I will switch to elilo. In fact, the Intel MB's that I use all have the

[gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
In some cases , when i run somethings with sudo , it tells me Permission Denied , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ? -- 好好学习,天天向上!!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Alecks Gates
On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, 赵佳晖 jiahui.tar...@gmail.com wrote: In some cases , when i run somethings with sudo , it tells me Permission Denied , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ? -- 好好学习,天天向上!!! I think it would depend on the use case, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 01:27:49 +0800, 赵佳晖 wrote: In some cases , when i run somethings with sudo , it tells me Permission Denied , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ? Are you trying to redirect the output? That can give this message because

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Éric DUNAND
Le Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:48:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk a écrit : On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 01:27:49 +0800, 赵佳晖 wrote: In some cases , when i run somethings with sudo , it tells me Permission Denied , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the cases . Did anyone have any

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/06/12 17:10, Dale wrote: Michael Mol wrote: AFAIK, you should be fine renaming bzImage to vmlinuz. (Note the z. It's vmlinuz, not vmlinux) Well that fixed one thing already. lol I bet I would have named that wrong. ;-) vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/

[gentoo-user] GUI for GRUB 2

2012-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
For KDE users who want to switch to GRUB 2, there's a GUI for it in KDE Extragear: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/kcm-grub2 http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=139643 It's in portage: kde-misc/kcm-grub2 It's a KCM, that means you'll find it in System

Re: [gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv

2012-06-30 Thread Stroller
On 29 June 2012, at 23:05, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: ... How come its hda? Perhaps this is the problem, it certainly should be fixed anyway. Because it was set up that way 8 years ago. /dev/hda is the only IDE drive in the system, and has the MBR, so I can't make /dev/hda an LVM volume,

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a

[gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group, Please take a look at this clip from /var/log/messages: https://paste.lugons.org/show/2679/ Can somebody tell me what it means? It never changes, char by char. It goes on forever, over and over again. At one time I wanted kernel debugging, but I've returned to menuconfig and turned

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: Seriously though, why not use make install? That way you know the right files get copied and given the expected names. Because I name my kernel and config the same thing. make install also copies your config to /boot, with a matching name.

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote: I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me. Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you don't have symlinks to the kernels and you don't update the config, how do you

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:10:11 -0500, Dale wrote: vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/ Just to confuse things, I used to run a PPC machine, and the kernel was called vmlinux on that :-O -- Neil Bothwick Ultimate memory manager; Windows, it manages to use it all..

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:45:34 -0700, walt wrote: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start Thanks for the tip. /etc/make.conf strikes me as an odd place to put settings that apply to only one package. How about VIDEO_CARDS - only used by xorg-drivers LIRC_DEVICES - only used by lirc

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 Jun 2012 23:01:40 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: It seems to expect to keep only two kernels around and I'm real bad to have more than that, sometimes way more than that. No it doesn't, it only installs kernels, not uninstalls them.

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/07/12 01:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:10:11 -0500, Dale wrote: vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/ Just to confuse things, I used to run a PPC machine, and the kernel was called vmlinux on that :-O IIRC, vmlinux was the name for

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Saturday 30 Jun 2012 23:01:40 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: It seems to expect to keep only two kernels around and I'm real bad to have more than that, sometimes way more than that. No it doesn't, it only installs kernels, not uninstalls

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote: I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me. Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you don't have symlinks to the kernels and you don't update the

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Alecks Gates
On Jun 30, 2012 7:13 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote: I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me. Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If

Re: [gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Please take a look at this clip from /var/log/messages: https://paste.lugons.org/show/2679/ Can somebody tell me what it means? It never changes, char by char. It goes on forever, over and over again. At

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
The -i option didn't work, it also says Permission Denied 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, 赵佳晖 jiahui.tar...@gmail.com wrote: In some cases , when i run somethings with sudo , it tells me Permission Denied , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
I have use your method , it didn't work . Like: sudo echo sys-boot/grub:2 ** /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/package.keywords.grub2 echo sys-boot/grub:2 ** | sudo tee /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/package.keywords.grub2 And the result : zjhui@gentoo ~ $ ls -l

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:36 PM, 赵佳晖 jiahui.tar...@gmail.com wrote: The -i option didn't work, it also says Permission Denied 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, 赵佳晖 jiahui.tar...@gmail.com wrote: In some cases , when i run somethings with sudo , it tells

Re: [gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi, I don't have an answer, but if you google the phrase rcu_bh detected stall on CPU you can find many reports similar to yours and maybe some information. This might be usefu lhttp://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt RCU bugs can often be debugged with the help of

Re: [gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
This is weird syzygy@lumby ~ $ grep DEBUG_FS /usr/src/linux/.config # CONFIG_DEBUG_FS is not set But the entry in menuconfig -kernel hacking looks like this:' -*- Debug Filesystem', and can't be changed. Not '[*]' which is changeable with the spacebar, but '-*-' which is not. According to help

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
hmm...yes , i want to do it in one command line.. 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:36 PM, 赵佳晖 jiahui.tar...@gmail.com wrote: The -i option didn't work, it also says Permission Denied 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM,