Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On 16 July 2013 20:20, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:09:46PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
The ebuild says it:
src_prepare() {
DOC_CONTENTS=To modify system network connections without needing
to enter the
root password, add your user account to the 'plugdev'
group.
When you install it, a message appears with that text.
Which wicd-version ebuild did you pull _that_ text from?
mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep plugdev /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r*
mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep users /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r*
/usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r2.ebuild: ewarn
Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If
/usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r3.ebuild: ewarn
Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If
Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild
without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man
page of emerge cannot say anything about it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
2013/7/17 András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu:
On 16 July 2013 20:20, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:09:46PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
The ebuild says it:
src_prepare() {
DOC_CONTENTS=To modify system network connections without needing
to enter the
root password, add your user account to the 'plugdev'
group.
When you install it, a message appears with that text.
Which wicd-version ebuild did you pull _that_ text from?
mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep plugdev /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r*
mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep users /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r*
/usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r2.ebuild: ewarn
Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If
/usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r3.ebuild: ewarn
Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If
Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild
without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man
page of emerge cannot say anything about it.
There are 2 programs reading emerge log files and displaying them in
an aesy format: elogv (ncurses) and elogviwer (X).
It is necessary to have the variables PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES and
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM set properly for get these program to work, for
example:
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save
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Regards,
Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
2013/7/17 Алексей Мишустин shum...@shumkar.ru: There are 2 programs reading emerge log files and displaying them in an aesy format: elogv (ncurses) and elogviwer (X). elogviewer It is necessary to have the variables PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES and PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM set properly for get these program to work, for example: PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save -- Regards, Elex
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:44:18 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I just did it again with cut and paste from above. Now the end of make.conf is (from cut and paste) FEATURES= buildsyspkg USE=-networkmanager and I still get newlap gottlieb # emerge --depclean networkmanager Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.6.3.1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.999[introspection] gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.6.4-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.6 net-libs/libsocialweb-0.25.21 requires net-misc/networkmanager Did you do emerge --update --deep --changed-use --ask @world after changing make.conf? Changing the USE flag there doesn't change the flags that those packages were built with. They will need to be rebuilt without NM support before portage allows you to depclean it. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 00F: Unexplained error - Please tell us how this happened signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:04:12 +0200, András Csányi wrote: Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the ebuild. -- Neil Bothwick Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On 17 July 2013 11:35, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:04:12 +0200, András Csányi wrote: Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the ebuild. I don't think this is a friendly solution in 2013. -- -- Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando) -- http://sayusi.hu -- http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi -- Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry! - Cromwell
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:04:12AM +0200, András Csányi wrote: mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep plugdev /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r* mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep users /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r* /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r2.ebuild: ewarn Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r3.ebuild: ewarn Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the pkg_postinst portion of the ebuild. If you have installed app-portage/elogv issue elogv and find the desired package. Two quick ways off the top of my head after the first cup of coffee. ;) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On 17 July 2013 13:59, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:04:12AM +0200, András Csányi wrote: mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep plugdev /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r* mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep users /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r* /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r2.ebuild: ewarn Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r3.ebuild: ewarn Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the pkg_postinst portion of the ebuild. Great! If you have installed app-portage/elogv issue elogv and find the desired package. Thanks, I'll check it! Two quick ways off the top of my head after the first cup of coffee. ;) The magic is coming from coffee, I know! :) -- -- Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando) -- http://sayusi.hu -- http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi -- Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry! - Cromwell
Re: [gentoo-user] strange eix-sync
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: /dev/root on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,user_xattr,commit=60,barrier=1,data=ordered) You don't have a separate mount for /tmp, so the above would be pertinent. And it shows support for xattr, so you should be good -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hun...@gmail.com) Twitter: @hunleyd Web: douglasjhunley.com G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:39:36 +0200, András Csányi wrote: Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the ebuild. I don't think this is a friendly solution in 2013. It isn't. The friendly solution is to have portage log this to a file or email it to you, but you ruled out those methods, leaving only the unfriendly but effective option. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 36: Alone together signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On 17 July 2013 14:35, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:39:36 +0200, András Csányi wrote: Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the ebuild. I don't think this is a friendly solution in 2013. It isn't. The friendly solution is to have portage log this to a file or email it to you, but you ruled out those methods, leaving only the unfriendly but effective option. I know it is my bad I haven't paid any attention to go deeper this part of the gentoo system. To be honest, it haven't caused any pain for me till yesterday. Lesson is learned. -- -- Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando) -- http://sayusi.hu -- http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi -- Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry! - Cromwell
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:39:36PM +0200, András Csányi wrote:
On 17 July 2013 11:35, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:04:12 +0200, András Csányi wrote:
Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild
without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man
page of emerge cannot say anything about it.
Read the ebuild.
I don't think this is a friendly solution in 2013.
What would _you_ consider friendly? Gentoo is a source based Linux
distribution. That means _all_ your software is built from source; however, it
is _your_ responsibility to customize this software to make it work best for
your computer's hardware, and your software usage. Gentoo is _not_ a binary
distribution where every package has been built for the lowest common
denominator of computer, so that it works on almost anyone's computer just by
clicking the Install button, or some such {easy,friendly} solution.
If you were to install software on another Linux distribution, for which there
was no package prebuilt for that package manager, you would basically:
download source
untar source
cd source-directory
./configure -help (and read the options)
write your own build script with your options
make
make install
(or whatever method for that software and distro)
You would also be responsible for reading to find out where to install the
software, what dependencies it requires, what permissions and groups should be
used, etc.
Gentoo has provided all this for you, but you must learn The Gentoo Way (TM)
in order to Make It Work (TM). You seem to be lacking a proper understanding
in that area.
If you installed Gentoo using the Gentoo Handbook (why would you not?), then
you should have read: 12. Where to go from here? And there you would read this
sentence: You should definitely take a look at the next part of the Gentoo
Handbook entitled Working with Gentoo which explains how to keep your software
up to date, how to install more software, what USE flags are, how the Gentoo
init system works, etc.
There is a lot of information there, and a lot to learn. But I find that
_most_ people _stop_ reading the Handbook at that point, and begin their
learning by trial and error. That is acceptable, even friendly, but it might
take you _much_longer_ to get that information than simply reading the book.
If you hang out in #gentoo on FreeNode you will be able to learn a _lot_ of
what you read on this mailing list in a much shorter time. In fact, you can
log the channel, and use that as another option to _search_ for support
answers. Often I will issue:
grep wicd irclogs/#gentoo.log
and maybe:
grep postinst irclogs/#gentoo.log
to find some answers. Then maybe that search will lead me to issue:
awk '/iamben/ /postinst/ { print }' irclogs/#gentoo.log
because my previous search revealed that iamben gave a lot of answers
concerning postinst and people got their question answered.
Last but not least, there are search engines, such as Google. Just open your
web browser to http://.google.com and type post-install message of an
ebuild and see if any of the results answers your question. The first hit for
me was Gentoo Development Guide: Messages, which for me was simple and easy
to read, but might not be so for you if you have no experience reading/writing
ebuilds. The second hit was Gentoo Forums :: View topic - How to read emerge
messages? (I ... which gave 'friendly' answers to your question. (Which you
already got on this list, also.)
Gentoo is not considered a user friendly distro in 2013 by many people. The
primary reason is that _most_ people have been trained to point and click
but never _read_ anything. Those are the people for whom Mark Shuttleworth
designed Ubuntu Linux.
Gentoo wasn't designed for the point and click crowd. Read
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml to get a better idea of Gentoo's
intended audience.
Cheers,
Bruce
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:18:22PM +0200, András Csányi wrote: On 17 July 2013 13:59, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:04:12AM +0200, András Csányi wrote: mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep plugdev /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r* mingdao@jeremiah ~ $ grep users /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r* /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r2.ebuild: ewarn Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If /usr/portage/net-misc/wicd/wicd-1.7.2.4-r3.ebuild: ewarn Wicd-1.6 and newer requires your user to be in the 'users' group. If Ok. How is possible to get the post-install message of an ebuild without re-emerge the package neither opening the log file? The man page of emerge cannot say anything about it. Read the pkg_postinst portion of the ebuild. Great! If you have installed app-portage/elogv issue elogv and find the desired package. Thanks, I'll check it! Two quick ways off the top of my head after the first cup of coffee. ;) The magic is coming from coffee, I know! :) Since reading the ebuild is not the _friendly_ way to get this information, let me help you install the software to make this easy... emerge -ajv app-portage/elogv (ncurses, which is text with colors) or emerge -ajv app-portage/elogviewer (GTK+ based utility, perhaps with GUI) Now add these lines to /etc/portage/make.conf (/etc/make.conf on old systems) PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error info log qa Then create this directory as root with this command: mkdir -p /var/log/portage/elog Then as root add your normal user to the portage group with this command: gpasswd -a username portage (replace username with your normal user's name and do not use the Then issue: newgrp as that user or logout of Linux and log back in (you do _not_ need to reboot). Then you can issue elogv or start elogviewer from the desktop entry and read the logs of your files. Hope this helps. Happy Gentooing! Bruce -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:03:29 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error info log qa I wouldn't include qa, that's just noise for users. -- Neil Bothwick Deja Moo: The feeling that you heard this bull somewhere before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Wed, Jul 17 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:44:18 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I just did it again with cut and paste from above. Now the end of make.conf is (from cut and paste) FEATURES= buildsyspkg USE=-networkmanager and I still get newlap gottlieb # emerge --depclean networkmanager Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.6.3.1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.999[introspection] gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.6.4-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.6 net-libs/libsocialweb-0.25.21 requires net-misc/networkmanager Did you do emerge --update --deep --changed-use --ask @world after changing make.conf? Changing the USE flag there doesn't change the flags that those packages were built with. They will need to be rebuilt without NM support before portage allows you to depclean it. Right. Our msgs outlining the problem and its soln crossed in the mail. The above was indeed the problem and the required fix. thanks as always, allan
[gentoo-user] KVM networking help
Hi, I need some help settling up networking with KVM machines. I have one public interface with four publicly accessible IPs. I want to run a private virtual network for the VMs, such that every VM can access every other VM and host, also host can access every VM (required for NAT). So far I tried this: Create two tap interfaces. Add them to a bridge Assign IP to bridge Set different MACs for VMs' NICs. This let's me access one VM to another also VM to host (not sure about this, ping works). But I'm not able to use host to VM (ping works), I'm not able to connect to sshd running inside VM from host.
Re: [gentoo-user] KVM networking help
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: Hi, I need some help settling up networking with KVM machines. I have one public interface with four publicly accessible IPs. I want to run a private virtual network for the VMs, such that every VM can access every other VM and host, also host can access every VM (required for NAT). So far I tried this: Create two tap interfaces. Add them to a bridge Assign IP to bridge Set different MACs for VMs' NICs. This let's me access one VM to another also VM to host (not sure about this, ping works). But I'm not able to use host to VM (ping works), I'm not able to connect to sshd running inside VM from host. See if the following[1] helps. [1] http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/VM_Tap_Networking
[gentoo-user]
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:37:50 -0300 From: pizta...@crow.satelite.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KVM networking help Message-ID: 20130717183750.gb20...@crow.satelite.com References: cahgbc-txzr4trmw_eyk6i2-fvuz01-16rouagweilk24dno...@mail.gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: cahgbc-txzr4trmw_eyk6i2-fvuz01-16rouagweilk24dno...@mail.gmail.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) ¿ There are a FW in the middle ? have you try making a telnet to ssh port ? - On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:58:49PM +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: Hi, I need some help settling up networking with KVM machines. I have one public interface with four publicly accessible IPs. I want to run a private virtual network for the VMs, such that every VM can access every other VM and host, also host can access every VM (required for NAT). So far I tried this: Create two tap interfaces. Add them to a bridge Assign IP to bridge Set different MACs for VMs' NICs. This let's me access one VM to another also VM to host (not sure about this, ping works). But I'm not able to use host to VM (ping works), I'm not able to connect to sshd running inside VM from host. -- - Kyd -
Re: [gentoo-user] KVM networking help
have a look at openvswitch ... gives more flexibility and is relatively easy to use. I am using fake-bridges with vlans for something like this (mythbackend running in a vm on a media vlan with a hdhomerun and other frontends, and a public vlan for other traffic) BillK On 18/07/13 02:28, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: Hi, I need some help settling up networking with KVM machines. I have one public interface with four publicly accessible IPs. I want to run a private virtual network for the VMs, such that every VM can access every other VM and host, also host can access every VM (required for NAT). So far I tried this: Create two tap interfaces. Add them to a bridge Assign IP to bridge Set different MACs for VMs' NICs. This let's me access one VM to another also VM to host (not sure about this, ping works). But I'm not able to use host to VM (ping works), I'm not able to connect to sshd running inside VM from host.
