[gentoo-user] Re: configure.ac and Makefile.am easy_view ?

2015-03-29 Thread James
Peter Humphrey peter at prh.myzen.co.uk writes: $ emerge xjobs ^C Ain't nobody got time for that =) $ ebuild $(equery w xjobs) prepare Hey guys, Thanks for the discussion. I'm going to ponder these comments and test/verify suggestions a bit and develop my semantic for this. Thx,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 03:30:07PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote With TPM, full-disk encryption, and a verified boot path, you could actually protect against that scenario (they'd have to tear apart the TPM chip and try to access the non-volatile storage directly, and the chips are specifically

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure.ac and Makefile.am easy_view ?

2015-03-29 Thread Franz Fellner
Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 03/28/2015 01:40 PM, Todd Goodman wrote: Some ebuilds may patch configure.ac or Makefile.am -- in that case it's a little harder. I'm sure there's an elegant way to do it, but what I usually do is begin to emerge the package and Ctrl-C it when it starts

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure.ac and Makefile.am easy_view ?

2015-03-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 March 2015 02:24:00 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 03/29/2015 02:06 AM, Franz Fellner wrote: Yeah, but I have to be in the directory where the ebuild lives for that to work. `emerge foo` works anywhere. It's also more flexible -- if I want the *unpatched* files, I just Ctrl-C

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 28-03-2015 09:34 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 07:48:48PM -0300, Sebas Pedersen wrote: bios update/microcode update. A google search suggests that you have run into an errata. Oh OK, thank you. Must have miss that in the search. So you are saying that the error

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 28-03-2015 10:13 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:48:48 PM Sebas Pedersen wrote: I see, thanks for clarifying that. So looks like not too many options, either try to update the bios and/or replace the CPU. I really appreciated you replys and time. Thanks!, Sebas

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:20:31 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:03:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using grub so I had to add these two lines to packages.use sys-libs/ncurses abi_x86_32 sys-libs/gpm abi_x86_32 I don't know how grub is connected, but I had to add those

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. The first thing what happens here is that kde wants to upgrade because

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:42:10 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 08:50 PM, Mick wrote: On Saturday 28 Mar 2015 22:48:48 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 07:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 28.03.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: On 28-03-2015 06:45 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 29-03-2015 12:45 PM, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:42:10 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 08:50 PM, Mick wrote: On Saturday 28 Mar 2015 22:48:48 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 07:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 28.03.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: On

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. The first thing what happens here is that kde wants to upgrade because qtchooser's mask miraculously becomes ignored. And

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Yanestra wysi...@seismic.de wrote: Hi, just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but after the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole system is about to be updated. I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can I do to keep my working

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:03:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using grub so I had to add these two lines to packages.use sys-libs/ncurses abi_x86_32 sys-libs/gpm abi_x86_32 I don't know how grub is connected, but I had to add those two as well. and after that doing the following

Re: [gentoo-user] MCE error

2015-03-29 Thread Sebas Pedersen
On 28-03-2015 08:50 PM, Mick wrote: On Saturday 28 Mar 2015 22:48:48 Sebas Pedersen wrote: On 28-03-2015 07:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 28.03.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: On 28-03-2015 06:45 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 28.03.2015 um 14:58 schrieb Sebas Pedersen: Hi

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Be careful what you wish for. I have my doubts that TPM chips would boot linux with Microsoft offering volume discounts to OEMS. Call me cynical. TPM chips don't control what boots. They just accept the hash of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: configure.ac and Makefile.am easy_view ?

2015-03-29 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/29/2015 02:06 AM, Franz Fellner wrote: Yeah, but I have to be in the directory where the ebuild lives for that to work. `emerge foo` works anywhere. It's also more flexible -- if I want the *unpatched* files, I just Ctrl-C earlier =) The ebuild-command works from every directory (at

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: and dump people keep talking nonsencely that sysvinit is enough while it cannot even handle reboot for normal user. sad. it can.

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Yanestra wysi...@seismic.de wrote: just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but after the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole system is about to be updated. I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: and dump people keep talking nonsencely that sysvinit is enough while it cannot even handle reboot for normal user. sad. it can. Did for decaded. Dumb systemd fanbois spouting their lies everywhere.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Purchase and setup of monitor calibration device

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: I thought about getting a wide-gamut display, namely a Dell with rgb-LEDs, but in the end decided against it because its quality seems About two years ago I tested two Dell U3011. The first one had such a bad homogeneity of luminance that I sent it back

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. The first thing what happens

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt 4.8.6. How did you go about overcoming this? I also have

[gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 30/03/15 03:43, waben...@gmail.com wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the --autounmask

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread wabenbau
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt 4.8.6. How did

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/03/2015 19:53, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: On 29.03.2015 19:30, Mick wrote: I went through that exercise about a month ago, and I needed this: /etc/portage/package.use/abi_x86_32: =dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.6-r1:4

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/03/2015 19:30, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 18:07:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature. The first thing what happens here is that

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 18:07:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote: On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct suggestions for that when using the

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 29.03.2015 19:30, Mick wrote: I went through that exercise about a month ago, and I needed this: /etc/portage/package.use/abi_x86_32: =dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.6-r1:4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
On 03/29/2015 07:27 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote: If you're on stable, you'll need to keyword qt-4.8.6 in its entirety. You can't mix and match versions, and 4.8.6 is the only one that supports multilib. Hm, a little documentation wouldn't hurt, don't you think? This guy has written a whole

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
(crossposting to -dev since this is fairly high-impact) On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: On 30/03/15 03:43, waben...@gmail.com wrote: I also have dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5-r2 and some other qt packages installed but I had no problems with that. I'm on

[gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
Hi, just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but after the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole system is about to be updated. I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can I do to keep my working system as it is? Regards, A Humble Usertm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please explain X fonts?

2015-03-29 Thread lee
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 03/26/2015 07:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: snip all questions I can't answer When I do a control-right-click on an xterm to manipulate fonts, the xterm crashes. I had the same problem once. IIRC, strace showed me that xterm was trying to load the default

Re: [gentoo-user] [distcc redux] A working distcc setup

2015-03-29 Thread lee
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org writes: First of all, thanks to everybody who answered my questions, and helped me get it working. Now for the setup. This is a home LAN, so I don't bother with ssh tunneling, etc, which will be necessary if you're going over untrusted links, e.g. the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread lee
Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk writes: The remaining question is: why is the user not allowed to halt it? It's because a user who wants to somewhat permanently disrupt the services the machine provides would need to remain at the keyboard to continue to reboot it and thus can be caught

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread lee
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net writes: 150322 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:04:44 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I can reboot the system when I am a user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down ? Strange The thinking is that you can unplug the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 26.03.2015 um 01:46 schrieb microcai: on Saturday 21 March 2015 13:58:45,Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: No, I am trying to shutdown from a console Well, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Please explain X fonts?

2015-03-29 Thread Urs Schütz
On 03/29/15 06:23, lee wrote: walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 03/26/2015 07:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: snip all questions I can't answer As to fonts, I highly recommend Source Code Pro and Source Sans Pro. They finally resolved my long search for good fonts. Unfortunately, they don't come

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:43:12PM +0200, lee wrote That leaves the question why a user who isn't even logged in should be able to reboot, which IIRC they can by default with Ctrl+Alt+Del. Such users shouldn't be allowed to do anything but to log in. As the old saying goes... If you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:43:12PM +0200, lee wrote That leaves the question why a user who isn't even logged in should be able to reboot, which IIRC they can by default with Ctrl+Alt+Del. Such users shouldn't be

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Yanestra
On 03/30/2015 12:10 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: My main system isn't that special at all, gnome, systemd, libreoffice, thunderbird, some browsers ... Stuff like that makes me really wonder if I spend too much of my life time struggling with doing *updates* I like Gentoo, you all know,

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon: I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is correct in the end It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not your 32 bit apps that have to be listed, it's all the libs and deps they have

Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to full multilib

2015-03-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/03/2015 00:10, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon: I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is correct in the end It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not your 32 bit apps that have to