Re: [gentoo-user] OT - MythDVD

2006-11-15 Thread Bryce Verdier
Try changing the mythdvd player from Internal to Xine (which is noted 
as having better support for dvd menu's than mplayer... but you can use 
that too). I've found the that internal player isn't the best... but it 
gets the job done if you have nothing else.



Michael Sullivan wrote:

I installed MythDVD this evening.  I'm having a problem with it.  When I
play DVDs, the audio track with spoken dialog is not audible.  How can I
get it back?  Also, is there a way I can get to the menu on the DVD in
mythdvd?

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get KDE to start on boot?

2006-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:24:25 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:

 Well, Gentoo is also about choice, so do it your way,
 but very occasionally there is a need to do things outside X
  your previous  my own continuing approach preserves that option.

As it's only very occasionally, why not set up a new runlevel that
doesn't start X for those rare occasions, rather than having to start X
manually the other 99% of the time.

Or you could just press Ctrl-Alt-F1 after X has started :)


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[gentoo-user] raid does not autostart

2006-11-15 Thread Huib van Wees
Hi List,A few weeks ago I created a Raid 5 set for my data partition using mdadm.This works fine, but last week a short power outage caused the server to reboot.When I came home the server was in need of maintainance because it couldn't check all his filesystems.
Strange fact was that the md device wasn't start...mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 works fine, the /etc/mdadm.conf is read the the raid device is started...But why doesn't start it at boot?A piece of output from dmesg:
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.md: autorun ...md: considering hdb1 ...md:  adding hdb1 ...md: created md1md: bindhdb1md: running: hdb1raid5: device hdb1 operational as raid disk 0
raid5: not enough operational devices for md1 (2/3 failed)RAID5 conf printout: --- rd:3 wd:1 fd:2 disk 0, o:1, dev:hdb1raid5: failed to run raid set md1md: pers-run() failed ...md: do_md_run() returned -5
md: md1 stopped.md: unbindhdb1md: export_rdev(hdb1)md: ... autorun DONE.It tell's me that 2/3 devices failed, but after I assemble it.. the ouput of mdadm --detail /dev/md1 is:
/dev/md1: Version : 00.90.03 Creation Time : Fri Sep 22 22:28:43 2006 Raid Level : raid5 Array Size : 625137152 (596.18 GiB 640.14 GB) Device Size : 312568576 (298.09 GiB 320.07 GB)
 Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 3Preferred Minor : 1 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Intent Bitmap : Internal Update Time : Wed Nov 15 10:56:36 2006 State : active
Active Devices : 3Working Devices : 3Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K UUID : 82544aad:a2e92ea2:72ca2d55:716dada0
 Events : 0.1486768 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 3 65 0 active sync /dev/hdb1 1 22 1 1 active sync /dev/hdc1 2 22 65 2 active sync /dev/hdd1
No failed devices!How it this possible?I rebooted aferwards, but still the same issue! :-(Anybody any clue's?!Any help is appriciated-- Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: hotplug / coldplug / udev ...

2006-11-15 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:45:32 -0500
Mark Shields wrote:

 On 11/9/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Mark,

 Ivman is what you want to get the 'automounting' accomplished
Well, maybe I did expressed my question correctly, but I was not
looking for a automounter, just wondering how
udev/hotplug/coldplug/hal/kernel works together...

anyway, thanks for your reply!
cheers!

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[gentoo-user] Re: PAM issues

2006-11-15 Thread Alexander Skwar
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 · Lorenzo Marussi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 but, with pam-0.99.6.3-r1, have you tried to make a revdep-rebuild -p
 -i ?
 
 Oh, right, no, I have not, but I'll do so tomorrow morning. Thanks
 for reminding me again!

It wants to rebuild dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r12

:)

But it was of course worth a try!

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[gentoo-user] Spamassassin / fcron / RulesDuJour

2006-11-15 Thread Steve [Gentoo]
Last night my default gentoo RulesDuJour for Spamassassin acquired new
Adult and General rule-sets from SARE.  Thereafter spamd refused all
connections and subsequently received mail was not spam filtered. 
Issuing '/etc/init.d/spamd restart' as root resolved the situation...
but I don't want to have to do this every time a rule-set is
automatically updated overnight.

This is a (sanitised) extract from /var/log/messages :

--
Nov 15 03:20:00 svr fcron[5328]: process already running: root's
/usr/bin/test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons
Nov 15 03:20:14 svr postfix/pickup[11065]: ...: uid=0 from=root
Nov 15 03:20:14 svr postfix/cleanup[11232]: ...: message-id=...
Nov 15 03:20:15 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: connection from localhost
[127.0.0.1] at port 1125
Nov 15 03:20:15 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: setuid to foouser succeeded
Nov 15 03:20:15 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: processing message .. for
foouser:1000
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: clean message (-2.9/5.0) for
foouser:1000 in 3.1 seconds, 647 bytes.
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: result: . -2 - AWL,BAYES_00
scantime=3.1,size=647,user=foouser,...
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr postfix/local[11237]: ...
Nov 15 03:20:18 svr postfix/qmgr[5607]: ...: removed
Nov 15 03:20:19 svr spamd[5462]: prefork: child states: II
Nov 15 03:20:26 svr postfix/pickup[11065]: ...: uid=0 from=root
Nov 15 03:20:26 svr postfix/cleanup[11232]: ...
Nov 15 03:20:27 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: setuid to foouser succeeded
Nov 15 03:20:27 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: processing message ... for
foouser:1000
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: clean message (-2.2/5.0) for
foouser:1000 in 2.7 seconds, 612 bytes.
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr spamd[7808]: spamd: result: . -2 - AWL,BAYES_05
scantime=2.7,size=612,user=foouser,uid=1000,...
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr postfix/local[11237]: EEA5F3B945:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=root, relay=local, delay=3, status=sent
(delivered to command: /usr/bin/proc
Nov 15 03:20:29 svr postfix/qmgr[5607]: EEA5F3B945: removed
Nov 15 03:20:30 svr spamd[5462]: prefork: child states: II
Nov 15 03:21:05 svr spamd[5462]: spamd: server killed by SIGTERM,
shutting down
Nov 15 03:21:11 svr rc-scripts: Failed to stop spamd
Nov 15 03:30:00 svr fcron[5328]: process already running: root's
/usr/bin/test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons
Nov 15 03:40:00 svr fcron[11746]: Job /usr/bin/test -x
/usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons started for user root (pid 11747)
Nov 15 03:50:00 svr fcron[11759]: Job /usr/bin/test -x
/usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons started for user root (pid 11760)
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/smtpd[11772]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/smtpd[11772]: ...: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/cleanup[11775]: ...: message-id=...
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/qmgr[5607]: 73FAA3B4FB: from=...
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr postfix/smtpd[11772]: disconnect from
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 15 03:50:24 svr spamc[11779]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused
Nov 15 03:50:25 svr spamc[11779]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1
failed, retrying (#2 of 3): Connection refused
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Does anyone else have this problem?  Can it be attributed to Fcron or
RulesDuJour or something peculiar to my setup?
I don't understand the process already running messages from fcron -
my cron jobs all seem to be executed normally.



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[gentoo-user] Re: raid does not autostart

2006-11-15 Thread Remy Blank
Huib van Wees wrote:
 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
 md: autorun ...
 md: considering hdb1 ...
 md:  adding hdb1 ...
 md: created md1
 md: bindhdb1
 md: running: hdb1
 raid5: device hdb1 operational as raid disk 0
 
 raid5: not enough operational devices for md1 (2/3 failed)

You need to mark all the partitions of your RAID array as Linux raid
autodetect with fdisk. Here, it seems only hdb1 is marked as such, and
hdc1 and hdd1 are not. This prevents the kernel from autostarting your
RAID array.

Try the following:

# fdisk /dev/hdc
t
1
fd
w
# fdisk /dev/hdd
t
1
fd
w

If this doesn't help, are hdc and hdd on a different IDE controller than
hda and hdb?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: hotplug / coldplug / udev ...

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 20:23, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:45:32 -0500, Mark Shields wrote:
  Ivman is what you want to get the 'automounting' accomplished

 Unless you use KDE, which has its own automounting for removable storage.

  It works for automounting cds, dvds, and should work for pendrives
  (although I have yet to get it automounting a pendrive under a user
  account)

 Is your user a member of the plugdev group? Automounting won't work
 otherwise.

Hmm . . .
=
A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to 
this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had 
interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume member Mount error 
name (unset) destination org.freedesktop.Hal)
=
That's what comes up when I click on the USB pen drive on media:/

PS. This is without ivman, only hald.
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[gentoo-user] Boa server depends on net.eth0?

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I am trying to start boa while connected to dial-up (ppp0) and what I am 
getting is this network related error:

rc-scripts: WARNING:  boa is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started


Any idea why this is so?  Do I need to change something to let it start up on 
any iface?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: hotplug / coldplug / udev ...

2006-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:24:12 +, Mick wrote:

  Is your user a member of the plugdev group? Automounting won't work
  otherwise.  
 
 Hmm . . .
 =
 A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
 message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected
 message had interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume member
 Mount error name (unset) destination org.freedesktop.Hal)
 =
 That's what comes up when I click on the USB pen drive on media:/

Which is pretty much what you'd expect it to say if your user is not a
member of the correct group.

If you were a member of plugdev, KDE would pop up a window when it
detected the device.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Boa server depends on net.eth0?

2006-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:02:58 +, Mick wrote:

 I am trying to start boa while connected to dial-up (ppp0) and what I
 am getting is this network related error:
 
 rc-scripts: WARNING:  boa is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has
 started 
 
 Any idea why this is so?  Do I need to change something to let it start
 up on any iface?

What is RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING set to in /etc/conf.d/rc?


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Re: [gentoo-user] sshd issues

2006-11-15 Thread Brian Davis
Just keep in mind that rsa/dsa keys would be a more secure way of 
authenticating, especially with all the brute-force scripts out there.


Jon M wrote:

Ohh okay that makes sense.

For everyones information, I got it to work properly.  First of all, 
I'm an idiot and was edited /etc/ssh/ssh_config, not 
/etc/ssh/sshD_config :P


Secondly, I had to enable PasswordAuthentication yes as well as 
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no


This works perfectly now.  Thanks again everyone, sorry for wasting 
your time.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that tells you that this is the default setting if you don't 
change it.



From: Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/11/14 Tue PM 09:35:13 EST
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] sshd issues

Hi Daevid,

I tried playing around with some options in there and didn't seem to 
do much, but not sure if I tried changing that specifically.  I do 
have a question though..  My ssh_config looks something along the 
lines of this:


#  Host *
#PasswordAuthentication yes

My question is, should they actually have # symbols in front as if 
they're commented out?  My gut is telling me no..


Thanks again


Daevid Vincent wrote:

Change/Add this:

PasswordAuthentication yes

In /etc/ssh/sshd_config

DÆVID 

-Original Message-
From: Jon M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 
14, 2006 6:04 PM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] sshd issues

Hey all,

I've been using other distributions for a while (CentOS, 
Slackware, Red Hat, etc) and finally switching to Gentoo, however 
this oddness with SSH is getting to me.  It seems when I SSH into 
my machine it uses keyboard interative mode, where as I'm used 
to every other distro using just password mode I think it is.  
I'm wondering if there is any way to change this.  I tried 
comparing /etc/ssh/ssh_config between my CentOS machine and my 
Gentoo machine, and both files are pretty much the same, and 
everything is commented out anyway.


Any light someone could shed on this would be much appreciated.  
Thanks in advance!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail system recommendations

2006-11-15 Thread Radosław Grzanka

David Relson napisał(a):

On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:06:12 -0500
Michael Crute wrote:

  

On 11/8/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have a small network, consisting of three PCs.  Each of these PCs
has a public WAN address, and each runs Apache, vsftpd and sendmail
(as well as ipkungfu for firewall protection).  One of them runs
mailman.  I would like to replace sendmail with something not
so...shall we say prehistoric?  I've been advised many times to do
so on this list and others.  Would anyone please give me some
recommendations for a new choice of mail server?  I'd like one with
plenty if documentation.
  

For my money I would say run postfix.



Michael S:

I agree with Michael C.  I've been running postfix for several years.
It's easy to use and it works!  More than that I don't want/need
(though I do use mailman with it to handle the bogofilter mailing
lists).
  

Hi,
 I have few (small) sites that run postfix under my control and I also 
would recommend it.
 However if you require some advanced features from postfix 
(anti-virus, spamassassin etc.) then be prepared for few surprises on 
upgrade and looking through configuration files + documentation + 
changelog. Once it cought me with my pants down and left my sites for 
few days without mail until I found source of the problem.


 Still, postfix is the best IMVHO.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem during compile ati-drivers

2006-11-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 when i try to compile ati-drivers (version 2.28.8, the latest driver
 for my card) for radeon 9200 i've the follor error:
 
 cannot stat flgrx.ko: no souch file or directory

I ran into the same problem (x86, more or less fully stable) after
switching to the 2.6.18-gentoo-r2 kernel when it had become stable. In
fact, any lastest stable ati-drivers usually haven't worked together
with the according lastest stable gentoo-sources for me...
Anyway: I suggest moving to ati-drivers-8.29.6 (masked) - this one
compiles and runs flawlessly as far as I can say. I.e. put the
following line into your /etc/portage/package.keywords:

=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.29.6 ~x86

Maybe some later unstable version would compile as well.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boa server depends on net.eth0?

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 13:20, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:02:58 +, Mick wrote:
  I am trying to start boa while connected to dial-up (ppp0) and what I
  am getting is this network related error:
  
  rc-scripts: WARNING:  boa is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has
  started 
 
  Any idea why this is so?  Do I need to change something to let it start
  up on any iface?

 What is RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING set to in /etc/conf.d/rc?

RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=no

Worth noting that I also have ifplugd running.  My ppp0 seems to start and run 
nicely using kppp alone, so I have not configured it in /etc/conf.d/net.  
Could this be related in any way?
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[gentoo-user] emerge hints log?

2006-11-15 Thread jakommo
Hi all,I was wondering if there is a way or a tool wich logs the hints emerge gives you sometimes after merging a program.The hints were usefull for me more than once but I dont want to watch emerge all the time when I ' m merging several packages.
best regardsjakommo


[gentoo-user] How to modify menus in Konqueror

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I had modified the right click/drop down menu in Konqueror to add a command 
that allowed me to email the page link to a recipient, save it, archive it, 
etc.

Problem is that this was back in kde-3.2.2 days and now I have forgotten how 
to do it.  :-(

Would anyone know or still remember how to?
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints log?

2006-11-15 Thread Brian Davis

Check out ELOG in /etc/make.conf.examples.

jakommo wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a way or a tool wich logs the hints emerge 
gives you sometimes after merging a program.
The hints were usefull for me more than once but I dont want to watch 
emerge all the time when I ' m merging several packages.


best regards

jakommo

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints log?

2006-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:44:59 +0100, jakommo wrote:

 I was wondering if there is a way or a tool wich logs the hints emerge
 gives you sometimes after merging a program.
 The hints were usefull for me more than once but I dont want to watch
 emerge all the time when I ' m merging several packages.

Look at the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in /etc/make.conf/example. They
control which messages are reported to you, and how.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints log?

2006-11-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 15:44, jakommo wrote:
 I was wondering if there is a way or a tool wich logs the hints emerge
 gives you sometimes after merging a program.
 The hints were usefull for me more than once but I dont want to watch
 emerge all the time when I ' m merging several packages.

The portage elog system has recently been added to the handbook:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap4

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[gentoo-user] Re: Problems getting started with vmware

2006-11-15 Thread reader
Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:23:14PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote
 It is free however, you still need a license number. Go to their
 site and get one.

   Do I really have to give all that personal info to create an account
 to get a licence which *MIGHT* run OS/2?  May as well buy Parallels,
 instead.

Walter, did you actually get a license somehow?  When I look on their
pages unders `product licensing'.  A `VMware Product Licensing' page
appears with no real indication of which license or even what product
is being discussed... at least the names do not coincide with anything
in portage.

Further it appears to expect the reader to already have some kind of
codes in hand.

In fact the whole setup there is massively confusing.  A bewildering
array of products all with very similar names and no real definitions
of how each is different.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to modify menus in Konqueror

2006-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:49:40 +, Mick wrote:

 I had modified the right click/drop down menu in Konqueror to add a
 command that allowed me to email the page link to a recipient, save it,
 archive it, etc.
 
 Problem is that this was back in kde-3.2.2 days and now I have
 forgotten how to do it.  :-(


Does this help?
http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] sshd issues

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 03:08, Jon M wrote:
 Ohh okay that makes sense.

 For everyones information, I got it to work properly.  First of all, I'm
 an idiot and was edited /etc/ssh/ssh_config, not /etc/ssh/sshD_config :P

 Secondly, I had to enable PasswordAuthentication yes as well as
 ChallengeResponseAuthentication no

How does ChallengeResponseAuthentication affect matters?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: hotplug / coldplug / udev ...

2006-11-15 Thread Mark Shields
On 11/15/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:45:32 -0500Mark Shields wrote: On 11/9/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Mark, Ivman is what you want to get the 'automounting' accomplished
Well, maybe I did expressed my question correctly, but I was notlooking for a automounter, just wondering howudev/hotplug/coldplug/hal/kernel works together...anyway, thanks for your reply!
cheers!--Arnau Briahttp://blog.emergetux.netWiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou.Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe.Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas.
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[gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi,

I was trying to update my gentoo, when I found next:

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5 have been
masked.
[...]
(dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r1 [ebuild])

At the beginning the dependency was kdeartwork-kscreensaver, as I did
not use it, I cleaned, then ksnapshot  spuerkarmaba, which I also
clenaed, but now, I cannot do smae with kdebase. 

Main question is why portage tries to update to masked packages if I
have not set any unmask options:

# grep kde /etc/portage/*
#

How may I find the reason of that?

PD: I've installed beryl, could it be the reason?

Cheers!

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[gentoo-user] Install Gentoo on one machine, then move the drive to another

2006-11-15 Thread Jon M

Hey again everyone,

Here is my situation:

I have CentOS running on a system in a datacenter, but want to switch to 
Gentoo.  Basically what I've started to do is installed Gentoo on a P4 
3.0Ghz machine at home, and plan on moving it to a Pentium D 2.66Ghz. 
Now if I configure/compile/install all my software on the P4, and the 
kernel is configured for all the hardware in the other machine, will it 
magically work, or will it freak out?  My other concern is that maybe 
the applications won't be optimized for the other machine.  If this is 
the case, once it's down there, could I simply emerge all of my programs 
one at a time?


My reason for doing this is to minimize downtime.  I didn't want to take 
the server offline for a week while I take my time configuring a new 
setup.  This way it should only be down for maybe 5 minutes while I do a 
hard drive swap.


Thanks in advance for anyones thoughts on this.
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Re: [gentoo-user] sshd issues

2006-11-15 Thread Jon M



Mick wrote:

On Wednesday 15 November 2006 03:08, Jon M wrote:

Ohh okay that makes sense.

For everyones information, I got it to work properly.  First of all, I'm
an idiot and was edited /etc/ssh/ssh_config, not /etc/ssh/sshD_config :P

Secondly, I had to enable PasswordAuthentication yes as well as
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no


How does ChallengeResponseAuthentication affect matters?


Hi Mick,

I'm not sure, however when ChallengeResponseAuthentication is set to yes 
it still would go into keyboard interactive mode.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Geistteufel

Have you sync your portage today ?

The emerge -Dup world give me kdelibs 3.5.5 and they are not mask
donc use package.keywords for this, in order to preserve dependancy in  
mask file


Another think usefull, donc emerge kde (the alias), they install lots of  
think not necessary usefull for you


emerge kdebase kdeadmin ... all package you want, and drop all unwant  
package with depclean
emerge unmerge kde, emerge --noreplace kdebase kdeadmin ..., emerge -a  
depclean, ... emerge -Dup world


so ...

Le Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:10:11 +0100, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] a  
écrit:



Hi,

I was trying to update my gentoo, when I found next:

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5 have been
masked.
[...]
(dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r1 [ebuild])

At the beginning the dependency was kdeartwork-kscreensaver, as I did
not use it, I cleaned, then ksnapshot  spuerkarmaba, which I also
clenaed, but now, I cannot do smae with kdebase.

Main question is why portage tries to update to masked packages if I
have not set any unmask options:

# grep kde /etc/portage/*
#

How may I find the reason of that?

PD: I've installed beryl, could it be the reason?

Cheers!









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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Gentoo on one machine, then move the drive to another

2006-11-15 Thread Geistteufel

Well, I do this often time

You can compile on one computer and put the drive to another without any  
problem

If your both computer have the same material ... nothing to do

Well CFGLAS on P4 should be like -02 -march=p4 -pipe -fmoit-frame-pointer
so both are P4, you can switch easyly

if both haven't got same material and you don't use genkernel you should  
probably redo the kernel
if you hd are not at the same place on new computer you need to change  
fstab


but globally, they don't take more than half an hour

good luck

Le Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:15:35 +0100, Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:


Hey again everyone,

Here is my situation:

I have CentOS running on a system in a datacenter, but want to switch to  
Gentoo.  Basically what I've started to do is installed Gentoo on a P4  
3.0Ghz machine at home, and plan on moving it to a Pentium D 2.66Ghz.  
Now if I configure/compile/install all my software on the P4, and the  
kernel is configured for all the hardware in the other machine, will it  
magically work, or will it freak out?  My other concern is that maybe  
the applications won't be optimized for the other machine.  If this is  
the case, once it's down there, could I simply emerge all of my programs  
one at a time?


My reason for doing this is to minimize downtime.  I didn't want to take  
the server offline for a week while I take my time configuring a new  
setup.  This way it should only be down for maybe 5 minutes while I do a  
hard drive swap.


Thanks in advance for anyones thoughts on this.








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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 17:10, Arnau Bria wrote:
 I was trying to update my gentoo, when I found next:

 Calculating world dependencies |
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5 have been
 masked.
 [...]
 (dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r1 [ebuild])

 At the beginning the dependency was kdeartwork-kscreensaver, as I did
 not use it, I cleaned, then ksnapshot  spuerkarmaba, which I also
 clenaed, but now, I cannot do smae with kdebase.

 Main question is why portage tries to update to masked packages if I
 have not set any unmask options:

You've snipped way too much of the output of `emerge -uDpvt world` for us to 
know what's causing it. If `emerge --sync` doesn't solve it then please 
provide the full output of `emerge -uDpvt world`.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Arnau Bria
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:20:17 +0100
Geistteufel Geistteufel wrote:

 Have you sync your portage today ?
Yes, every night...

 The emerge -Dup world give me kdelibs 3.5.5 and they are not mask

$ eix kdelibs
* kde-base/kdelibs
 Available versions:  3.5.2-r6:3.5 3.5.2-r6:3.5[1]  ~3.5.3-r4:3.5
~3.5.3-r4:3.5[1]  ~3.5.4-r1:3.5[1]  ~3.5.4-r2:3.5[1]  ~3.5.4-r3:3.5
~3.5.4-r4:3.5 ~3.5.5:3.5 ~3.5.5:3.5[1]  ~3.5.5-r1:3.5[1]
~3.5.5-r2:3.5[1]  ~3.5.5-r3:3.5[1]  ~3.5.5-r4:3.5 ~3.5.5-r4:3.5[1]
3.5.5-r5:3.5 ~3.5.5-r5:3.5[1] Installed:   3.5.2-r6


Mine neither
So, what does portage says so?

 donc use package.keywords for this, in order to preserve dependancy
 in mask file

Well, I pasted the grep just to say that I have nothing related to kde
unmasked...
 
 Another think usefull, donc emerge kde (the alias), they install lots
 of think not necessary usefull for you
 
 emerge kdebase kdeadmin ... all package you want, and drop all
 unwant package with depclean
 emerge unmerge kde, emerge --noreplace kdebase kdeadmin ..., emerge
 -a depclean, ... emerge -Dup world
Thanks, thanks what I do :-)
 
 so ...
Thaks for your reply.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Gentoo on one machine, then move the drive to another

2006-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 18:15, Jon M wrote:
 Hey again everyone,

 Here is my situation:

 I have CentOS running on a system in a datacenter, but want to switch
 to Gentoo.  Basically what I've started to do is installed Gentoo on
 a P4 3.0Ghz machine at home, and plan on moving it to a Pentium D
 2.66Ghz. Now if I configure/compile/install all my software on the
 P4, and the kernel is configured for all the hardware in the other
 machine, will it magically work, or will it freak out?  My other
 concern is that maybe the applications won't be optimized for the
 other machine.  If this is the case, once it's down there, could I
 simply emerge all of my programs one at a time?

 My reason for doing this is to minimize downtime.  I didn't want to
 take the server offline for a week while I take my time configuring a
 new setup.  This way it should only be down for maybe 5 minutes while
 I do a hard drive swap.

 Thanks in advance for anyones thoughts on this.

The one thing you *have* to do is configure the kernel on the compiling 
machine for the correct hardware that the date center machine has. 
There's no magic involved, when you boot into the new machine the 
driver for it's hardware is either there or it isn't.

You probably also want to set your CFLAGS to the lowest common 
denominator cpu - I don't recall off-hand what a Pentium D is, but I 
imagine the setting will be -march=pentium4. This will avoid the 
problem of code being compiled with cpu settings that are not present 
on the target system.

And don't worry too much about optimization. We have a word for that - 
it's called ricing and it's not a good thing. Compile the apps with 
sane settings and stuff works. Trying to eke out those last 4 cpu 
cycles just ain't worth the effort... If you need better performance, 
buy more RAM or faster disks

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Arnau Bria
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:34:58 +0100
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

 On Wednesday 15 November 2006 17:10, Arnau Bria wrote:

[...]
 You've snipped way too much of the output of `emerge -uDpvt world`
 for us to know what's causing it. If `emerge --sync` doesn't solve it
 then please provide the full output of `emerge -uDpvt world`.

# emerge -uDpvt world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5 have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r4 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r1 [ebuild])



!!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-sound/amarok
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

you're right, I did not read until end. Is amarok who want to pull
kdelibs, isn't it?

# grep amarok /etc/portage/*
/etc/portage/package.use:media-sound/amarok xine

* media-sound/amarok
 Available versions:  1.4.3-r1 ~1.4.4

What else could I provide to solve my problem?

thanks for your help!

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 18:53, Arnau Bria wrote:
 you're right, I did not read until end. Is amarok who want to pull
 kdelibs, isn't it?

Indirectly yes. Amarok depends on konqueror and kdebase, which depends 
on kdelibs

 # grep amarok /etc/portage/*
 /etc/portage/package.use:media-sound/amarok xine

hmmm, no kde there

 * media-sound/amarok
      Available versions:  1.4.3-r1 ~1.4.4

 What else could I provide to solve my problem?

post 'emerge -avuNDt world' 
the -t gives a tree display so we can see what depends on what, with USE 
flags

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 17:53, Arnau Bria wrote:
[SNIP]
 # emerge -uDpvt world

 These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

 Calculating world dependencies |
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5 have been
[SNIP]
 - kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
[SNIP]
 (dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r1 [ebuild])
[SNIP]

Hmm.. kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 was stabilized before kdebase-3.5.5-r1.

[SNIP]
 What else could I provide to solve my problem?

Do you have kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 in any overlay? Like say the xeffects overlay?
Then maybe you need to sync that overlay. If it's in another overlay then it
probably needs to be stabilised or temporarily added to
/etc/portage/package.keywords.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail system recommendations

2006-11-15 Thread kashani

Radosław Grzanka wrote:

Hi,
 I have few (small) sites that run postfix under my control and I also 
would recommend it.
 However if you require some advanced features from postfix (anti-virus, 
spamassassin etc.) then be prepared for few surprises on upgrade and 
looking through configuration files + documentation + changelog. Once it 
cought me with my pants down and left my sites for few days without mail 
until I found source of the problem.


 Still, postfix is the best IMVHO.


	The moral of the story is that that the move between 2.0 to 2.1 or 2.1 
to 2.2 or 2.2 to 2.3 are actually major updates and a number of things 
change within the internals of Postfix. If you don't actually look at 
the change logs you will run into problems. On the other hand each of 
these releases introduced some nice functionality. 2.1 was policy 
servers which made graylisting easy, 2.2 changed SQL syntax which made 
the queries you could do much more powerful, 2.3 was actual sendmail 
style milters that didn't need to be requeued.


I've been really happy with Postfix over the past 4 years.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 17:43, Arnau Bria wrote:
 $ eix kdelibs
 * kde-base/kdelibs
      Available versions:  3.5.2-r6:3.5 3.5.2-r6:3.5[1]  ~3.5.3-r4:3.5
 ~3.5.3-r4:3.5[1]  ~3.5.4-r1:3.5[1]  ~3.5.4-r2:3.5[1]  ~3.5.4-r3:3.5
 ~3.5.4-r4:3.5 ~3.5.5:3.5 ~3.5.5:3.5[1]  ~3.5.5-r1:3.5[1]
 ~3.5.5-r2:3.5[1]  ~3.5.5-r3:3.5[1]  ~3.5.5-r4:3.5 ~3.5.5-r4:3.5[1]
 3.5.5-r5:3.5 ~3.5.5-r5:3.5[1] Installed:           3.5.2-r6
 

 Mine neither
 So, what does portage says so?

Ahh, I'd missed that you had posted this. Once again you've snipped an 
important piece of information, namely the one that tells you what overlay 
[1] refers to. It is, however, called an overlay for a reason.. :p Whenever 
the same ebuild exists in the tree an in an overlay portage will use the one 
in the overlay which in this case is ~x86 masked..

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[gentoo-user] OT: nvidia-cg-toolkit

2006-11-15 Thread James
Hello,

I'm looking for a recommendation where someone has purchased
an Nvidia card that has good to excellent graphics performance
in 3D video games (such as bzflag) and/or anyone that written
and code that uses the nvidia (gpu) as a general or 
special purpose processor
 

Any info or ideas, even other video cards that have
opensource drivers are most welcome.


James





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Re: [gentoo-user] python segfault

2006-11-15 Thread Andrey
ToMike Ferry:  I have tried it. The same problem but withoutINFO: Can't locate Tcl/Tk libs and/or headers.To Bo Ørsted Andresen:;)Yes I've unstable flags: LDFLAGSHASHSTYLE= -Wl,--hash-style=both
CFLAGS=-Os -march=pentium3 -frename-registers -fweb -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funit-at-a-time -freorder-blocks -fno-ident -freorder-blocks-and-partition -fgcse-sm -fgcse-las -fgcse-after-reload -fmerge-all-constants -combine
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hiddenLDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1${LDFLAGSHASHSTYLE}But all system emerged well. And works also fine.Except python... It doesn't compile.Now I'm using python emerged with stable flags...



Re: [gentoo-user] python segfault

2006-11-15 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 19:10, Andrey wrote:
[SNIP]
 To Bo Ørsted Andresen:
 ;)
 Yes I've unstable flags:
 LDFLAGSHASHSTYLE= -Wl,--hash-style=both
 CFLAGS=-Os -march=pentium3 -frename-registers -fweb -pipe
 -fomit-frame-pointer -funit-at-a-time -freorder-blocks -fno-ident
 -freorder-blocks-and-partition -fgcse-sm -fgcse-las -fgcse-after-reload
 -fmerge-all-constants -combine
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1${LDFLAGSHASHSTYLE}

 But all system emerged well. And works also fine.
 Except python... It doesn't compile.
 Now I'm using python emerged with stable flags...

So.. been following Conrad's guide to bork your system [1], huh? I got the 
hunch from bug #146292 [2]. In either case please don't *ever* file a bug 
using this configuration. And note that changing your configuration isn't 
just changing the contents of /etc/make.conf. You need to `emerge -e world` 
after that! I for one will never understand why people want to break their 
systems like this...!

[1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-509252-highlight-hashstyle.html
[2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146292

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Nagatoro

Arnau Bria wrote:

- kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)


You need to sync your portage tree. kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 is marked x86 as of 
13 Nov.


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[gentoo-user] offline runlevel

2006-11-15 Thread Roger Mason
Hello,

I am following the runlevel guide
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=4 
to set up an offline runlevel for my laptop.  I have in
/etc/runlevels/offline:

rmason # rc-update show offline
   acpid | offline 
cpufreqd | offline 
 gpm | offline 
   ivman | offline 
   local | offline 
  pcmcia | offline 
   syslog-ng | offline 
  vixie-cron | offline

Based on the ouput of scriptname ineed, nothing there needs
net.eth0.

When I boot into the kernel with this entry in grub.conf:

# For booting GNU/Linux
title  Gentoo Linux 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 (offline)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.17-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=offline

the system still tries to start eth0 and then wastes time while dhcpd
times out.

I am not sure what what I have done wrong.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Roger Mason

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Re: [gentoo-user] offline runlevel

2006-11-15 Thread Flophouse Joe

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Roger Mason wrote:


I am following the runlevel guide
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=4
to set up an offline runlevel for my laptop.



When I boot into the kernel with this entry in grub.conf:

# For booting GNU/Linux
title  Gentoo Linux 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 (offline)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.17-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=offline

the system still tries to start eth0 and then wastes time while dhcpd
times out.


Is it possible that there are still some services set to start in the
boot runlevel that would be more appropriate in the default or
offline runlevel?

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[gentoo-user] X resources contorl file

2006-11-15 Thread reader
Once upon a time.  I think before there was a `gentoo', linux users
used an ~/.Xdefaults file to control or set how many of the apps run
in X would look, what font etc.

I've used it for many years and don't really remember when I quit
paying attention to it.  Probably not as a gentoo user which would
span about 1.7 or so years. 

There was a point where the name changed from .Xdefaults to
.xresources and I use to symlink my old .Xdefaults to .xresources.

Now running gentoo (synced about a week ago), xorg-x11-7.1 and kdebase
3.5.5-r1.

I'd like to start using that kind of resource control file again.  Can
anyone tell me if that is possible in Kde and if so how it is done?

Currently the .xresoruces file appears to be ignored.



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Re: [gentoo-user] python segfault

2006-11-15 Thread Andrey
2006/11/15, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 19:10, Andrey wrote:[SNIP] To Bo Ørsted Andresen: ;) Yes I've unstable flags: LDFLAGSHASHSTYLE= -Wl,--hash-style=both CFLAGS=-Os -march=pentium3 -frename-registers -fweb -pipe
 -fomit-frame-pointer -funit-at-a-time -freorder-blocks -fno-ident -freorder-blocks-and-partition -fgcse-sm -fgcse-las -fgcse-after-reload -fmerge-all-constants -combine CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1${LDFLAGSHASHSTYLE} But all system emerged well. And works also fine. Except python... It doesn't compile. Now I'm using python emerged with stable flags...
So.. been following Conrad's guide to bork your system [1], huh? I got thehunch from bug #146292 [2]. In either case please don't *ever* file a bugusing this configuration. And note that changing your configuration isn't
just changing the contents of /etc/make.conf. You need to `emerge -e world`after that! I for one will never understand why people want to break theirsystems like this...!Yes, I took theese flagsat[1](Conradguide).
 But I don't want to break my system. It really work and speed up my system! :)The only trouble is python doesn't want to build. So I'm going to reemerge it stable cflags but with hash-style! ;)


Re: [gentoo-user] offline runlevel

2006-11-15 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/15/06, Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

the system still tries to start eth0 and then wastes time while dhcpd
times out.


Probably you need one or both of the following in /etc/conf.d/rc:

RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.eth0
RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=lo

BUT, what you probably really want is to emerge ifplugd.  With this
installed, gentoo will detect when there is a cable connected and
startup networking automagically when a cable is inserted.  It should
also avoid timing out on dhcp requests when no link is detected.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X resources contorl file

2006-11-15 Thread Nagatoro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

Currently the .xresoruces file appears to be ignored.


Try with a capital X (.Xresources).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: hotplug / coldplug / udev ...

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 13:18, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:24:12 +, Mick wrote:
   Is your user a member of the plugdev group? Automounting won't work
   otherwise.
 
  Hmm . . .
  =
  A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
  message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected
  message had interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume member
  Mount error name (unset) destination org.freedesktop.Hal)
  =
  That's what comes up when I click on the USB pen drive on media:/

 Which is pretty much what you'd expect it to say if your user is not a
 member of the correct group.

 If you were a member of plugdev, KDE would pop up a window when it
 detected the device.

Thank you Neil.  For some reason it won't automount a usb CF here, let alone 
pop up windows:
===
# cat /etc/group | grep hald
disk:x:6:root,adm,haldaemon
floppy:x:11:root,haldaemon
cdrom:x:19:michael,haldaemon
cdrw:x:80:haldaemon
usb:x:85:haldaemon
haldaemon:x:440:haldaemon
plugdev:x:441:haldaemon,michael
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[gentoo-user] Help with script for iptables

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I have been using Daniel Robbins' basic script for years but now on a laptop I 
have more than one ways of connecting to the Internet.  The script uses the 
variable UPLINK to define the incoming interface like so:
==
#change this to the name of the interface that provides your uplink
#(connection to the Internet)

UPLINK=eth0

if [ $1 = start ]
then
echo Starting firewall...
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${UPLINK} -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[snip...]
==

I would like to define more than one iface in UPLINK, e.g. eth0, wlan0, ppp0.  
How am I supposed to do this?  I've tried space, comma and colon as 
delimiters, but all fail.  I've also tried entering UPLINK=iface_name one 
on each line, but the last line seems to be the one that is always used.

I'd very much appreciate your script savvy guidance here, because I couldn't 
fight my way out of a paper bag when it comes to scripting . . .  :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] offline runlevel

2006-11-15 Thread Roger Mason
Flophouse Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is it possible that there are still some services set to start in the
 boot runlevel that would be more appropriate in the default or
 offline runlevel?

 Joe

Well, the only script in boot that looks promising is net.lo: I had
considered removing it from boot but decided to ask before (possibly) making a
big problem from a small one.

Thanks,
Roger

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Arnau Bria
El Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:26:07 +0100
Bo Ørsted Andresen dijo:

 On Wednesday 15 November 2006 17:53, Arnau Bria wrote:
[...]
  What else could I provide to solve my problem?
 
 Do you have kdelibs-3.5.5-r5 in any overlay? Like say the xeffects overlay?
You're right...
Maybe, if I provided it from the beginning...
(from eix output)
[1] /usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects

 Then maybe you need to sync that overlay. If it's in another overlay then it
 probably needs to be stabilised or temporarily added to
 /etc/portage/package.keywords.

I OP, I only said that I installed beryl, assuming that people who answer will
know that it needs an overlay... My fault. Really sorry for that.

Gonna read some doc about overlays, and If I still have problems with that,
I'll update this threat. 

Many thanks for your help.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with script for iptables

2006-11-15 Thread Flophouse Joe

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Mick wrote:


   iptables -P INPUT DROP
   iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${UPLINK} -j ACCEPT
   iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

I would like to define more than one iface in UPLINK, e.g. eth0, wlan0, ppp0.


It sounds like you want to write a rule that says,

If the packet arrives on any of the interfaces eth0, wlan0, or ppp0,
then do ${something} with it.

I have never found a good way to do this, but I have found several bad
ways of doing this. :)

Here is one of the easiest of the bad ways:

Make separate rules which effectively test for each of the interfaces
you're interested in.  If the rules match, then make the packets jump to
a new chain for further testing.

Let's use eth0, wlan0, and ppp0 as an example.  Assume that you've got
these interfaces bound on a Gentoo system acting as a firewall and NAT
device.  You trust eth0 and wlan0, as these are the interfaces from
which you connect to the system.  You don't trust ppp0, as its IP
address is publicly routable.

You wish to be able to SSH into the Gentoo system from hosts on the eth0
and wlan0 interfaces, but not from packets arriving on the ppp0
interface.

You can't write a rule like the following:

iptables -A INPUT -i eth0,wlan0 -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT

So instead you write rules like this:

iptables -N in-from-trusted

iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j in-from-trusted
iptables -A INPUT -i wlan0 -j in-from-trusted

iptables -A in-from-trusted -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT

Consider how this works.  Assume that one of your trusted hosts on the
eth0 segment sends a new SSH packet to the Gentoo system.

The SSH packet hits the INPUT chain, where it matches the first rule
because it arrives on the eth0 interface.  The packet them jumps (-j) to
the chain in-from-trusted.  The packet matches the first rule in this
chain because its destination tcp port is 22, and so the packet is
accepted.

The same rules apply for an incoming ssh packet arriving on the wlan0
interface.

If an ssh packet comes in on the ppp0 interface, it won't match any of
the rules from the INPUT chain listed above, and-- assuming that there
are no further rules in the INPUT chain-- its fate will be that of the
policy of the INPUT chain: DROP.

Finally, consider a packet arriving on the wlan0 interface whose
destination tcp port is, say, http .  This packet will match the rule
-A INPUT -i wlan0 and it will jump to the in-from-trusted chain.  It
won't match the rule in in-from-trusted -p tcp --dport ssh, and so it
won't be accepted here.

This method works well enough in this example, but gets unwieldly
quickly if taken to its logical extreme.  I once maintained a set of
iptables rules that was written entirely in this method.  It was nothing
but a series of tests chained together with jumps and returns.  Even
though I wrote it, it was nearly impossible for me to follow and debug
it: tracing a packet required consulting five or six chains, and
inserting new rules was a chore because it was always necessary to avoid
inserting a rule in such a way to short-circuit an existing test.

I warned you this was a bad way. :)

It's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding the design of
netfilter, but it seems to me that the solution to complicated rulesets
is to permit boolean logic in rules like so:

iptables -A INPUT \
\(-i eth0 -or -i wlan0) -and \(-p tcp --dport ssh\) \
-j ACCEPT

Joe
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Arnau Bria
El Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:30:12 +0100
Arnau Bria dijo:

 El Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:26:07 +0100
 Bo Ørsted Andresen dijo:
 
 [...]
  Then maybe you need to sync that overlay. If it's in another overlay then it
  probably needs to be stabilised or temporarily added to
  /etc/portage/package.keywords.
After a layman -s ALL, I get:

# emerge -uDpvt world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[blocks B ] kde-base/kde-env (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r5)
[nomerge  ] app-vim/latexsuite-1.5.20060124  
[...]

Which is a normal output. So now, I know how to proceed.

Again, many thanks for your help. I must read doc about overlays!

Cheers!
Arnau
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Re: [gentoo-user] offline runlevel

2006-11-15 Thread Devon Miller
try grepping for need in /etc/runlevels/boot/* and /etc/runlevels/offline/* to see if any of your boot or offline services has a dependency on networking..If there is something that requires net, see if setting RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=lo in /etc/conf.d/rc will do the trick. If that doesn;t work, then you may need to remove the service from that softlevel.
Also check for PROGRAM keys in your /etc/udev/rules.d/* to make sure it's not udev trying to start the device. However, I don't believe there's anything like that in the default rule sets.And, I'll second Richard, emerge ifplugd
dcmOn 11/15/06, Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flophouse Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible that there are still some services set to start in the
 boot runlevel that would be more appropriate in the default or offline runlevel? JoeWell, the only script in boot that looks promising is net.lo
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uDpvt world kdelibs

2006-11-15 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/15/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I OP, I only said that I installed beryl, assuming that people who answer will
know that it needs an overlay...


Actually, beryl is now in the main portage tree.  So if that is your
only reason for this overlay, you don't need it anymore.

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail system recommendations

2006-11-15 Thread Julien Cayzac
On 11/8/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
postfix is supposed to be pretty good.gmail is even better :)with all the amount of spam hits my smtp server has received before I removed it, there is no way I will declare a MX record in my dns ever again...
jc


Re: [gentoo-user] Install Gentoo on one machine, then move the drive to another

2006-11-15 Thread Mark M

Hi all,
Pentium D is actually an emt64 dual core cpu,
so while CFLAGS -march=pentium4 will work, it will be x86-32 instead of
x86-64 and of course the compiled apps won't know nothing about the dual
core (read almost dual CPU),
still it will run, and it will run fast, you may want to recompile the
kernel on the data center with vSMP option set, so at least the kernel will
know how to manage multithreads between two cores.


On 11/15/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wednesday 15 November 2006 18:15, Jon M wrote:
 Hey again everyone,

 Here is my situation:

 I have CentOS running on a system in a datacenter, but want to switch
 to Gentoo.  Basically what I've started to do is installed Gentoo on
 a P4 3.0Ghz machine at home, and plan on moving it to a Pentium D
 2.66Ghz. Now if I configure/compile/install all my software on the
 P4, and the kernel is configured for all the hardware in the other
 machine, will it magically work, or will it freak out?  My other
 concern is that maybe the applications won't be optimized for the
 other machine.  If this is the case, once it's down there, could I
 simply emerge all of my programs one at a time?

 My reason for doing this is to minimize downtime.  I didn't want to
 take the server offline for a week while I take my time configuring a
 new setup.  This way it should only be down for maybe 5 minutes while
 I do a hard drive swap.

 Thanks in advance for anyones thoughts on this.

The one thing you *have* to do is configure the kernel on the compiling
machine for the correct hardware that the date center machine has.
There's no magic involved, when you boot into the new machine the
driver for it's hardware is either there or it isn't.

You probably also want to set your CFLAGS to the lowest common
denominator cpu - I don't recall off-hand what a Pentium D is, but I
imagine the setting will be -march=pentium4. This will avoid the
problem of code being compiled with cpu settings that are not present
on the target system.

And don't worry too much about optimization. We have a word for that -
it's called ricing and it's not a good thing. Compile the apps with
sane settings and stuff works. Trying to eke out those last 4 cpu
cycles just ain't worth the effort... If you need better performance,
buy more RAM or faster disks

alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: raid does not autostart

2006-11-15 Thread Huib van Wees

On 11/15/06, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 CUT 

You need to mark all the partitions of your RAID array as Linux raid
autodetect with fdisk. Here, it seems only hdb1 is marked as such, and
hdc1 and hdd1 are not. This prevents the kernel from autostarting your
RAID array.

Try the following:

# fdisk /dev/hdc
t
1
fd
w
# fdisk /dev/hdd
t
1
fd
w

If this doesn't help, are hdc and hdd on a different IDE controller than
hda and hdb?



Dôh! Stupid me!
I shoud know this!

This fixed it, thank you!

Up to the folowing weird issue... (will be in a new post)...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with script for iptables

2006-11-15 Thread Mick
Thanks Joe,

On Wednesday 15 November 2006 21:25, Flophouse Joe wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Mick wrote:
 iptables -P INPUT DROP
 iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${UPLINK} -j ACCEPT

  I would like to define more than one iface in UPLINK, e.g. eth0, wlan0,
  ppp0.

 It sounds like you want to write a rule that says,

 If the packet arrives on any of the interfaces eth0, wlan0, or ppp0,
 then do ${something} with it.

Yes. I was thinking is it possible to define the interfaces like:

UPLINK=eth0 wlan0 ppp0

and then add something like:
=
 for x in ${INTERFACES}
do
iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${x} -j ACCEPT
. . . more rules . . .
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i ${x} -j DROP
fi
=
type of think.  Not sure if the syntax is correct, but the idea is that we 
define multiple interfaces, but only write the rules once with the 
variable 'x' where the interface is meant to go.

 Here is one of the easiest of the bad ways:

 Make separate rules which effectively test for each of the interfaces
 you're interested in.  If the rules match, then make the packets jump to
 a new chain for further testing.

That's a simple enough way although as you say it can quickly get complicated 
especially so if you want to modify rules, change chains and so on.

 It's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding the design of
 netfilter, but it seems to me that the solution to complicated rulesets
 is to permit boolean logic in rules like so:

   iptables -A INPUT \
   \(-i eth0 -or -i wlan0) -and \(-p tcp --dport ssh\) \
   -j ACCEPT

Is there a legit way of specifying such rules?
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints log?

2006-11-15 Thread jakommo

thanks everyone

greez

jakommo

On 11/15/06, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wednesday 15 November 2006 15:44, jakommo wrote:
 I was wondering if there is a way or a tool wich logs the hints emerge
 gives you sometimes after merging a program.
 The hints were usefull for me more than once but I dont want to watch
 emerge all the time when I ' m merging several packages.

The portage elog system has recently been added to the handbook:


http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap4

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with script for iptables

2006-11-15 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 20:29 +, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have been using Daniel Robbins' basic script for years but now on a laptop 
 I 
 have more than one ways of connecting to the Internet.  The script uses the 
 variable UPLINK to define the incoming interface like so:
 ==
 #change this to the name of the interface that provides your uplink
 #(connection to the Internet)

you could try modifying the script slightly:

 UPLINK=eth0

make that
UPLINK=eth0 ppp0 # space separated

then I was going to say use a
for i in x; do ...; done
loop, but I realised that won't work exactly, because of the line
iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${UPLINK} -j ACCEPT
then something strange would happen.

What you're really saying is for every interface not specified, accept
incoming packets.  This gets a bit tricky, cause you either have to
parse the output of ifconfig (ugly) or specify the interface that are
NOT uplinks (prone to user error).

You could say:

UPLINK=eth0 wlan0 ppp0

if [ $1 = start ]
then
echo Starting firewall...
iptables -P INPUT DROP
for IFS in `ifconfig | grep Link encap: | awk '{print $1}'`; do
for UPIFS in ${UPLINK}; do
# if IFS isn't in UPIFS, then accept all trafic on IFS
if ...

forget that! too ugly.  What are you really trying to do?  Make all your
interface the uplink, ie. firewalled?

In that case, just say this:

 UPLINK=who cares?
 
 if [ $1 = start ]
 then
 echo Starting firewall...
 iptables -P INPUT DROP
 iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

done! Now everything is firewalled, and only lo is trusted.

However, I haven't seen the rest of this script, so I don't know if that
will break things.  Maybe you want to post back with some more info if
that doesn't suit your needs...

cya!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with script for iptables

2006-11-15 Thread Flophouse Joe

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Mick wrote:

On Wednesday 15 November 2006 21:25, Flophouse Joe wrote:

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006, Mick wrote:



UPLINK=eth0 wlan0 ppp0
for x in ${INTERFACES}
do
iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${x} -j ACCEPT
. . . more rules . . .
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i ${x} -j DROP
fi
=
type of think.  Not sure if the syntax is correct, but the idea is that we
define multiple interfaces, but only write the rules once with the
variable 'x' where the interface is meant to go.


I'm not 100% certain that I understand the goal, so please let me know
if I've gotten it wrong.  It sounds like you want to apply identical
firewall rules to each of three interfaces.  It's possible that there
are other interfaces, and if traffic arrives on those interfaces, then
it should not be matched by the rules in the for loop.

If this is the case, then yes, the for loop you've suggested should be
perfectly fine.  The rules you specify in that loop will only be applied
to traffic which arrives on the interfaces that you loop through.

If you're anything like me, you'll find the rules created in this manner 
slightly difficult to read from the output of iptables -vnL, but you'd 
have the same problem using the test-then-jump method I mentioned in my 
previous post.  As near as I can tell, this is a limitation of iptables 
(or netfilter) itself, in that (to the best of my knowledge) it isn't 
possible to specify a rule that matches multiple interfaces whose names 
don't begin the same way.



It's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding the design of
netfilter, but it seems to me that the solution to complicated rulesets
is to permit boolean logic in rules like so:

iptables -A INPUT \
\(-i eth0 -or -i wlan0) -and \(-p tcp --dport ssh\) \
-j ACCEPT


Is there a legit way of specifying such rules?


Not that I'm aware of, but I'd very much like to be proven wrong.  Does
anyone else on the list know of a way to specify boolean conditions in
iptables rules as illustrated above?

For what it's worth, I have found a way to get something that
approximates the ability to use ORs in iptables rules, but it borders on
the criminially insane.  I describe it below:

I have a Gentoo system in my house which acts as a firewall and NAT
gateway.  It has three network interfaces:

eth0 connects to the public internet,
eth1 connects to a non-routable network segment,
eth2 connects to a non-routable wireless access point left wide open.

I wish for some hosts-- and only some hosts-- to be able to connect to the
wireless access point and have their traffic masqueraded out to the
public internet.

Since I'm dealing with a very small number of hosts, and since these
hosts are directly connected to the Gentoo system's ethernet segment,
I've decided to filter traffic from the wireless access point based on
the source MAC address of the ethernet frames coming from the wireless
access point.

Let's say that I trused the hosts with MAC address 00:11:22:33:44:55 and
with MAC address 00:22:44:66:88:AA, and I wished for these hosts to have
their traffic forwarded out to the internet without any restrictions
whatsoever.

This would be simple enough:

iptables -A FORWARD -i eth2 -o eth0 \
-m mac --source-mac 00:11:22:33:44:55 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A FORWARD -i eth2 -o eth0 \
-m mac --source-mac 00:22:44:66:88:AA -j ACCEPT

But in reality, the rules are a bit more complicated.  I disallow
outgoing access to SMTP and BitTorrent, for example.  I also disallow
outgoing traffic to certain UDP ports.

These rules add up quickly.  It's possible to collapse some of these rules 
using -m multiport , but I still end up with a few rules for each of the 
hosts that are being forwarded from the wireless interface to the public. 
And since I can't test for multiple MAC addresses in one rule, I need 
separate rules for each host.


I've got about six hosts connecting to the wireless access point, and
I've got three rules for each host.  Because I can't OR rules
together, I've got 6 x 3 = 18 rules to juggle.

This isn't too big of a deal if I wrap it up in a for loop, but it's
still unsightly to look at in the output of iptables -vnL

I've used the connmark match and the CONNMARK target to get the same
effect.

In table mangle chain PREROUTING, I have rules that look like this:

iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING \
-m mac --mac-source 00:11:22:33:44:55 \
-j CONNMARK --set-mark 0x1/0x1

iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING \
-m mac --mac-source 00:22:44:66:88:AA \
-j CONNMARK --set-mark 0x1/0x1

iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING \
-m mac --mac-source 33:66:99:CC:FF:00 \
-j CONNMARK --set-mark 0x1/0x1

And now I can collapse the rules in table filter, chain FORWARD like so:

iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -m multiport ! --dports 25,6881 \
  

[gentoo-user] Re: X resources contorl file

2006-11-15 Thread reader
Nagatoro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
 Currently the .xresoruces file appears to be ignored.

 Try with a capital X (.Xresources).

Haa.. there was a time and maybe different OS where case didn't matter
so I never thought to try that.

Even this time, I quickly tried it and saw no difference and was on
the verge of posting back saying it didn't change anything but I
pondered a moment and thought to try restarting X.  Sure enough, the
lowercase was the problem.  On restarting X the data in .Xresources
was recognized.

I'd quit even using it mnths ago and am glad to have it back...Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X resources contorl file

2006-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 16 November 2006 04:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nagatoro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [...]
 
  Currently the .xresoruces file appears to be ignored.
 
  Try with a capital X (.Xresources).

 Haa.. there was a time and maybe different OS where case didn't
 matter so I never thought to try that.

 Even this time, I quickly tried it and saw no difference and was on
 the verge of posting back saying it didn't change anything but I
 pondered a moment and thought to try restarting X.  Sure enough, the
 lowercase was the problem.  On restarting X the data in .Xresources
 was recognized.

 I'd quit even using it mnths ago and am glad to have it
 back...Thanks.

In my experience you'll find that your kde and gnome apps will pretty 
much mostly ignore your .Xresources or at the very least what's in it 
gets overridden by kcontrol/gconf.

Your other X apps work just fine of course

alan
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[gentoo-user] Re: X resources contorl file

2006-11-15 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd quit even using it mnths ago and am glad to have it
 back...Thanks.

 In my experience you'll find that your kde and gnome apps will pretty 
 much mostly ignore your .Xresources or at the very least what's in it 
 gets overridden by kcontrol/gconf.

 Your other X apps work just fine of course

Probably the single biggest use I make of it now and historically is
to setup emacs and xterms the way I like them.  I don't use the
konsole much.

So that is where I notice it missing.

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