[gentoo-user] Native Language Support

2007-08-07 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Hi,

I have a mail server with UK/US locales support only. Access to
console have limited number of users only.

Do I need NLS support? What are consequences if I switch off NLS flag
in installed packages?

As I understand NLS gives man pages and docs in few languages.
Correct?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Flashplayer 9 working for anybody?

2007-08-07 Thread Chuanwen Wu
It's quite good on my machine too when i open videos in nytimes.com or
any other site.
I have the plugin Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31.
Maybe you should check the version of your  Shockwave Flash.

2007/8/3, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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 it just sits there with the spinning loading arrow.  Clicking
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 6. August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:49:01 -0400, sean wrote:
  Hans, Xav, Thank You both, ran the root kit check no problems.

 Which may not prove much. Rootkit detectors (I prefer rkhunter BTW) are
 most effective when installed before a computer is open to infection. If
 you install it on a machine that has already been rootkitted, the rootkit
 may be able to conceal itself.

can we stop the scare tactics now?

Or are you sure that YOUR box is rootkit free? And the install cd? Or every 
other install medium?

Why scaring him?

Probably is problem is disk access+dma off.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:19:40 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

   Hans, Xav, Thank You both, ran the root kit check no problems.  
 
  Which may not prove much. Rootkit detectors (I prefer rkhunter BTW)
  are most effective when installed before a computer is open to
  infection. If you install it on a machine that has already been
  rootkitted, the rootkit may be able to conceal itself.  
 
 can we stop the scare tactics now?

It is only a scare tactic if the intent is to frighten, not to inform.

 Or are you sure that YOUR box is rootkit free? And the install cd? Or
 every other install medium?

As sure as I can be, but I do not blindly assume hat everything is OK
because one program, possibly using compromised information, says so.

 Why scaring him?

See above.

 Probably is problem is disk access+dma off.

I agree, heavy disk I/O can cause major slowdowns, but if someone is
considering a rootkit infection, they should at least be aware of the
facts when looking for it.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Problem compiling ati-drivers-8.35.5

2007-08-07 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 04 August 2007, Herbert Laubner wrote:
 Running revdep-rebuild, I got an error building fgl_glxgears.

 Here the section of the build.log

 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-
 gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 !!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5 failed.
 Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1632:   Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 983:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
ati-drivers-8.35.5.ebuild, line 182:   Called die

 I have no clue what IGL is, nor if I need it.

It is more likely lowercase -l like Lima followed by GL as an 
option...

 Could this also cause the problem, that I get a black screen trying
 to stop xorg-server? Right no the only way to shut down the computer
 is to hold the power button till it shuts down :-(


 Regards,
 Herb

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] Mathematica 6 Gentoo amd64

2007-08-07 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
Hi,

Does anybody have experience of installing Mathematica 6 on Gentoo amd64 box?
Is there any possibility to install it without chroot'ed environment?

Thanks for suggentions

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem compiling ati-drivers-8.35.5

2007-08-07 Thread Eduardo Otubo
Hello Herbert,

Here is a clue :-)
The option -l is a GCC flag that says which library you will
dynamically link to your binary. So, -lGL means your linker (ld)
will need GL library. The error above is due to two possibilities:

1- You don't have GL library
2- Your GL library is not in the right place it should be.

Try emerging media-libs/ftgl. This may solve your problem.

Hope I can help.
[]'s

On 8/4/07, Herbert Laubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running revdep-rebuild, I got an error building fgl_glxgears.

 Here the section of the build.log

 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-
 gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 !!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5 failed.
 Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1632:   Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 983:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
ati-drivers-8.35.5.ebuild, line 182:   Called die

 I have no clue what IGL is, nor if I need it.

 Could this also cause the problem, that I get a black screen trying
 to stop xorg-server? Right no the only way to shut down the computer
 is to hold the power button till it shuts down :-(


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hotswapable Drive

2007-08-07 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 24 Juli 2007 22:18 schrieb Kent Fredric:
 On 7/25/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I'd like to know what's the current best practice to handle a hotswapable
  SATA-drive. It's the optical drive of my Dell Latitude D520 laptop, the
  so called Media Bay.
 
  If I plug it in while the system is online, it is not recognized. Under
  normal circumstances (e.g. coldplugged) it works fine.
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
  Florian Philipp

 IF your system fails to recognize it on plug you may have an
 older/noconformant controller or missing appropriate kernel
 modules/drivers to govern them.

 Reccommnended Install Procedure
 1. Plug in data cable
 2. Plug in power cable
 3. Check dmesg
 4. check /dev/ for new node ( udev should make one )
 5. Mount

 Removal
 1. Unmount
 2. Remove power
 3. remove data.

 ( Although For me I think both work, its just I know that the power
 connector is the one with all the different pin lengths allowing the
 drive to say ok, see you later before it powers off )
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Hi!

Sorry for the delay but I had some other stuff to do. Attaching and removing 
of power and data cables is not possible because I just push the drive into 
its case or pull it out.

dmesg doesn't show anything and udev does not create any new node, neigher 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage

2007-08-07 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
 I agree, heavy disk I/O can cause major slowdowns, but if someone is
 considering a rootkit infection, they should at least be aware of the
 facts when looking for it.

I agree. Let's add some data to the thread:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
http://www.net-security.org/dl/articles/Detecting_and_Understanding_rootkits.txt

nmap your server from outside, full port range tcp, udp. (ok, lots of rootkits 
still use OOB, IGMP,
ICMP, etc for control and data transport). Can you boot from a livecd and run 
rkhunter AND
chkrootkit from it? Do it. If you need off-list help, contact me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Excessive processor usage

2007-08-07 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:36:36 + (UTC) James
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there
  isn't a rootkit:
 
  chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_
  rootkits.
 
  BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
  But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
  proven correct, just invalid.
 
 You are right for noobs.

Sheesh! That's an universal scientific concept. Read a bit on
Falsifiability of theories to grab the basics. Don't, if you're a
religious hardliner.

 If the person has a second system and sets up a flat hub and the
 ethernet in stealth mode, you can sniff the ethernet I/O all day
 long and use a variety of tools to discern if nefarious activities
 abound on a given system. Sure it's a bit of work, but all hacked
 systems I've ever seen use the system to ethernet I/O. 

And there's your assumption that you can't prove correct.

 They can
 encrypt that traffic, but if you know what should/not be traversing
 the ethernet, there is no way to hide an actively compromised 
 system. 

Wrong. You might be practically right since most rootkits use means to
communicate, but they might just collect data instead or even just
encrypt all your documents and display the bank account number to
deposit money for getting the private key for decryption.

BTW, this is not about scaring people, but to make them aware that
there is no absolute fail-prove solution to any problem -- since 100%
fail-prove is an logically invalid concept. But I'm pretty confident
that the OP isn't dealing with a hacked machine. I just jumped on the
rootkit discussions, cause many people talking about rootkits neither
know how rootkits work, nor do they grasp the theories behind rootkit
detection.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown Tool hd

2007-08-07 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:13:58 +0100 Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a problem with a script refering to several tools, one is hd
 -snip-
 TESTECHO=$($ECHO -e '\061\062' \
 | hd \
 | grep -Eom1 '^[[digit:]]+[[:space:]]+[[digit:]]+[[:space:]]
 | +[[digit:]]+' \ tr -s '\t ' ' '
 -snip-
 Searching has proved fruitless, I *think* it may be a Debian
 tool/script. Any pointers ? Please !!!

It's a symlink to hexdump on debian machines.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Native Language Support

2007-08-07 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:47:41 +0300 Sergey A. Kobzar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a mail server with UK/US locales support only. Access to
 console have limited number of users only.
 
 Do I need NLS support? What are consequences if I switch off NLS flag
 in installed packages?
 
 As I understand NLS gives man pages and docs in few languages.
 Correct?

For most packages that's true. However, it mainly influences the
availability of programs' frontends' languages (libintl/gettext).

Switching it off shouldn't do any harm.

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[gentoo-user] Update World Issue

2007-08-07 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hi,

On my laptop, I did an update world.  One of the programs that the
update wants to install is 'sip'.  I connect to my mirror and then the
mirror goes out to www.riverbankcomputing.com, but gets a 404 error. 
Anyone else seen this issue?  I know what a 404 error is.  Would
changing mirrors help or do all mirrors run the same script?

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Update World Issue

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:11:06 -0400, Colleen Beamer wrote:

 On my laptop, I did an update world.  One of the programs that the
 update wants to install is 'sip'.  I connect to my mirror and then the
 mirror goes out to www.riverbankcomputing.com, but gets a 404 error. 
 Anyone else seen this issue?  I know what a 404 error is.  Would
 changing mirrors help or do all mirrors run the same script?

Changing mirrors may help, if your mirror is out of date or incomplete.
It's a good idea to have more than one mirror in /etc/make.conf, giving
more chances of getting the file you need before hitting the upstream
server.

I too get a 404 when trying to download direct, but the first mirror in
my list, ftp.heanet.ie, has the file.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Update World Issue

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:11:06 -0400, Colleen Beamer wrote:

 On my laptop, I did an update world.  One of the programs that the
 update wants to install is 'sip'.  I connect to my mirror and then the
 mirror goes out to www.riverbankcomputing.com, but gets a 404 error.

Further to my previous mail, it appears that riverbank have released sip
4.7 and removed the previous version from their server already, so you
need to get it from a mirror.


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[gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi!

Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?

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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?

Port 80 closed, ping answers (RTT ~216ms). Tested from Argentina.

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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez

Alexander Skwar escribió:

Hi!

Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?

Alexander Skwar

  

I replies to ping, but I can't access it with my browser either...

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[gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexander Skwar wrote:

 Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?
 
 Port 80 closed, ping answers (RTT ~216ms). Tested from Argentina.

Thx. So it's not just me. 

BTW: ping time: ~180ms, from Switzerland. VERY slow. Traceroute isn't
helpful either:

17  nero-gw.Level3.net (63.211.200.246)  193.119 ms  202.437 ms  199.503 ms
18  corv-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.177)  216.742 ms  194.857 ms  190.510 ms

and after that, no more replies :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Christian Heim
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 15:12:51 Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hi!

 Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?

 Alexander Skwar

It's being closed until further notice.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown Tool hd

2007-08-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 06 August 2007 02:13:58 pm Linux wrote:
 I have a problem with a script refering to several tools, one is hd

hd is the short name for hexdump.  (When hexdump is invoked as hd, it assumes 
certain options.)

Gentoo's hexdump package does not provide the short name, but you can make a 
sym or hardlink after installing that package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem compiling ati-drivers-8.35.5

2007-08-07 Thread Matthias Guede
2007/8/7, Eduardo Otubo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello Herbert,

 Here is a clue :-)
 The option -l is a GCC flag that says which library you will
 dynamically link to your binary. So, -lGL means your linker (ld)
 will need GL library. The error above is due to two possibilities:

 1- You don't have GL library
 2- Your GL library is not in the right place it should be.

 Try emerging media-libs/ftgl. This may solve your problem.

 Hope I can help.
 []'s

 On 8/4/07, Herbert Laubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Running revdep-rebuild, I got an error building fgl_glxgears.
 
  Here the section of the build.log
 
  /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-
  gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
  !!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5 failed.
  Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1632:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 983:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
 ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
 ati-drivers-8.35.5.ebuild, line 182:   Called die
 
  I have no clue what IGL is, nor if I need it.
 
  Could this also cause the problem, that I get a black screen trying
  to stop xorg-server? Right no the only way to shut down the computer
  is to hold the power button till it shuts down :-(
 
 
  Regards,
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I don't know the solution to your problem, but I'm sure emerging
media-libs/ftgl will not help.

The library you are missing should come with the ati-drivers.

Maybe executing a eselect opengl ati helps? Just a guess.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem compiling ati-drivers-8.35.5

2007-08-07 Thread James Ausmus
On 8/4/07, Herbert Laubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running revdep-rebuild, I got an error building fgl_glxgears.

 Here the section of the build.log

 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-
 gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 !!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5 failed.
 Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1632:   Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 983:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
ati-drivers-8.35.5.ebuild, line 182:   Called die

 I have no clue what IGL is, nor if I need it.


It is the OpenGL library. Do this:

emerge media-libs/mesa
eselect opengl set xorg-x11
emerge ati-drivers
eselect opengl set ati

And then you should be good to go.


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[gentoo-user] is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?

2007-08-07 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Is it for me only?
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Re: [gentoo-user] is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?

2007-08-07 Thread ツ Leandro Sales
Here I have the same response! Unable to Connect!

2007/8/7, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Re: [gentoo-user] is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?

2007-08-07 Thread Steve Dommett

ツ Leandro Sales wrote:

Here I have the same response! Unable to Connect

As was recently established in thread  packages.gentoo.org down?:

Christian Heim phreak at gentoo.org wrote:


It's being closed until further notice.
  


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Re: [gentoo-user] is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?

2007-08-07 Thread Oliver Schmidt
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nope ... for me too :-(

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RE: [gentoo-user] is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?

2007-08-07 Thread McCaffrey, Ennis
 

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Native Language Support

2007-08-07 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Hi Hans-Werner,

Thanks for help.

I'll try :)


Tuesday, August 7, 2007, 2:49:52 PM, you wrote:

 Hi,

 On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:47:41 +0300 Sergey A. Kobzar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a mail server with UK/US locales support only. Access to
 console have limited number of users only.
 
 Do I need NLS support? What are consequences if I switch off NLS flag
 in installed packages?
 
 As I understand NLS gives man pages and docs in few languages.
 Correct?

 For most packages that's true. However, it mainly influences the
 availability of programs' frontends' languages (libintl/gettext).

 Switching it off shouldn't do any harm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread b.n.
Christian Heim ha scritto:
 On Tuesday 07 August 2007 15:12:51 Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hi!

 Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?

 Alexander Skwar
 
 It's being closed until further notice.

why?

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[gentoo-user] GRUB error

2007-08-07 Thread cscscscscs cscscscscs
Hi folk,

First of all sorry if my English is not perfect.

I become a little bit upset sucking installing Gentoo Linux throughout 3
days. There was several errors during the install process (networkless,
installer-dialog), so I was beginning to be afraid of memory-module errors,
motherboard failure etc. I ran memory and other tests: everything is OK with
my computer. However, the install succeeded only for the sixth time.


'Now' the main problem is that GRUB returns with error code 15. I've read
the documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml ;
however it didn't help. The kernel image is where it must be.

I have got two HDD-s with SATA interface. My system is installed on sdb.
Here are my partitions, beginning from the 0. cylinder:

First:   sdb5  ext2 /boot
Second:   sdb6  ext3 /
Third:   sdb7  ext3 /home
Fourth:sdb2  swap

As other Linux distributions boots fine from logical partitions I think this
shouldn't be the reason.

(After sdb2 there are 2 more primary data partition (with no influence to
the system)).

I think GRUB is in the MBR of sdb. (One thing is 100%: the MBR of sda
remains untouched, however the installer hasn't asked where to install it.)


grub.conf:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd1,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux
root (hd1,4)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sdb6  doscsi
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5


Everything looks to be good, but I have no idea what does
root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192
mean and why appears 'ramdisk'.


Reading through many pages about Gentoo linux, and it's power, freedom,
choices,  package management ...etc. this distribution looks like very
fine.


I'm now totally depressed The last thing for the rest is reading the 100
pages documentation of GRUB. It's very complicated for as an 'beginning
difficult'.


Thank you in advance for the help.

P.S.: Please don't ask me for repartition my hard drive. I hope that a
simplier solution exist.

Everything has a reason. Must be.


Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB error

2007-08-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 7. August 2007, cscscscscs cscscscscs wrote:
 Hi folk,

 First of all sorry if my English is not perfect.

 I become a little bit upset sucking installing Gentoo Linux throughout 3
 days. There was several errors during the install process (networkless,
 installer-dialog), so I was beginning to be afraid of memory-module errors,
 motherboard failure etc. I ran memory and other tests: everything is OK
 with my computer. However, the install succeeded only for the sixth time.


 'Now' the main problem is that GRUB returns with error code 15. I've read
 the documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml ;
 however it didn't help. The kernel image is where it must be.

 I have got two HDD-s with SATA interface. My system is installed on sdb.
 Here are my partitions, beginning from the 0. cylinder:

 First:   sdb5  ext2 /boot
 Second:   sdb6  ext3 /
 Third:   sdb7  ext3 /home
 Fourth:sdb2  swap

 As other Linux distributions boots fine from logical partitions I think
 this shouldn't be the reason.

 (After sdb2 there are 2 more primary data partition (with no influence to
 the system)).

 I think GRUB is in the MBR of sdb. (One thing is 100%: the MBR of sda
 remains untouched, however the installer hasn't asked where to install it.)


 grub.conf:

 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd1,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 title=Gentoo Linux
 root (hd1,4)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
 ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sdb6  doscsi
 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5


so you copied the grub.conf from the cd? or does genkernel this atrocity?
If you don't use an initrd (and if you don't use a raid-setup there is imho no 
good reason to do so), make it look like this:

kernel (hd1,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb6

replace vmlinuz with whatever your kernel is called. Don't use genkernel - 
make all modules_install install is IMHO way better.


 P.S.: Please don't ask me for repartition my hard drive. I hope that a
 simplier solution exist.

if you boot from the second harddisk, grub may get confused, so instead of 
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 nmi_watchdog=0
(as an example)
root (hd1,0)
kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 nmi_watchdog=0

may help.

(or in your case, instead of a 1 a 0), play around with it, at somepoint it 
might work ;) )


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[gentoo-user] Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date

2007-08-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hello!

I'm trying to install mono on a new system. To do that, I'm building
everything inside a chroot (it's the same system I referred to in the
Cannot compile texinfo: Illegal instruction - Wrong -march and -mtune 
flags? thread).

I'm now almost done. I just need to get Mono built, basically. But this
fails miserably :(

,[ error while building mono 1.1.16.1 ]
| make profile-do--default--all profile-do--net_2_0--all
| make[4]: Entering directory 
`/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.1.16.1/work/mono-1.1.16.1/mcs'
| make PROFILE=basic all
| make[5]: Entering directory 
`/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.1.16.1/work/mono-1.1.16.1/mcs'
| 
/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.1.16.1/work/mono-1.1.16.1/libtool:
 line 6911: LC_CTYPE: command not found
| 
/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.1.16.1/work/mono-1.1.16.1/libtool:
 line 6911: LC_COLLATE: command not found
| 
/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.1.16.1/work/mono-1.1.16.1/libtool:
 line 6911: LC_MESSAGES: command not found
| make[6]: *** [build/deps/basic-profile-check.exe] Aborted
| make[6]: Entering directory 
`/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.1.16.1/work/mono-1.1.16.1/mcs'
| *** The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
| *** You may want to try 'make get-monolite-latest'
`

mono-1.2.4 fails as well:

,[ error while building mono 1.2.4 ]
| make profile-do--default--all profile-do--net_2_0--all
| make[4]: Entering directory 
`/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/mcs'
| make PROFILE=basic all
| make[5]: Entering directory 
`/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/mcs'
| /Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/libtool: 
line 6911: LC_CTYPE: command not found
| /Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/libtool: 
line 6911: LC_COLLATE: command not found
| /Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/libtool: 
line 6911: LC_MESSAGES: command not found
| make[6]: *** [build/deps/basic-profile-check.exe] Error 1
| make[6]: Entering directory 
`/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/mcs'
| *** The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
| *** You may want to try 'make get-monolite-latest'
`

In common is, that there are those LC_CTYPE: command not found errors.
Is that the cause of the problem?

,[ emerge --info ]
| Portage 2.1.2.11 (default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 
2.6.22-gentoo-r2.04.non-hardened i686)
| =
| System uname: 2.6.22-gentoo-r2.04.non-hardened i686 unknown
| Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
| Timestamp of tree: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:50:01 +
| ccache version 2.4 [disabled]
| dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
| dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
| dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
| dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7
| sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
| sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
| sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
| sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
| sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
| sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.23b
| virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
| ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
| AUTOCLEAN=yes
| CBUILD=i486-pc-linux-gnu
| CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=pentium-m -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
| CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu
| CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config
| CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf 
/etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo
| CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=pentium-m -march=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
| DISTDIR=/Gentoo/Portage/tree/distfiles
| EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--alphabetical
| FEATURES=collision-protect distlocks metadata-transfer parallel-fetch 
sandbox sfperms strict
| GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/gentoo/ 
http://gentoo.mirror.solnet.ch http://distfiles.gentoo.org/;
| LINGUAS=de
| PKGDIR=/Gentoo/Portage/packages
| PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times 
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages 
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*
| PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/Gentoo/Portage/build
| PORTDIR=/Gentoo/Portage/tree
| PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/Gentoo/Portage/local-tree/misc
| SYNC=rsync://rsync.ch.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
| USE=X acpi alsa bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts branding cairo cdr cli 
cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread emboss encode esd evo fam firefox 
fortran gdbm gif gnome gstreamer gtk hal iconv isdnlog jpeg kde kdeenablefinal 
kdehiddenvisibility libg++ libnotify mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg mudflap 
ncurses nfs nls nptl nptlonly offensive ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png 
pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime rdesktop readline reflection samba sdl 
session spell spl sse sse2 ssl svg tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts 

[gentoo-user] Re: is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?

2007-08-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Is it for me only?

No, it's not. Please see the other thread, I started shortly :)
before yours *g*

BTW: It's still offline.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB error

2007-08-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 20:40, cscscscscs cscscscscs wrote:

 First of all sorry if my English is not perfect.

No worries, neither is mine.  ;-)

 I become a little bit upset sucking installing Gentoo Linux throughout 3
 days. There was several errors during the install process (networkless,
 installer-dialog), so I was beginning to be afraid of memory-module errors,
 motherboard failure etc. I ran memory and other tests: everything is OK
 with my computer. However, the install succeeded only for the sixth time.

It took me 3 times to install Gentoo from a stage 1 and I was not getting any 
overheating problems with my PC.  If you try to install it on a laptop, or a 
PC which is has cooling fans covered in fluff and dust in the middle of the 
summer, you may well be experiencing overheating problems.

 'Now' the main problem is that GRUB returns with error code 15. I've read
 the documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml ;
 however it didn't help. The kernel image is where it must be.

Grub error 15 means that the drive and partition are correct, but the file in 
question (your kernel image) is not found.

In the first instance I can think of two possibilities:

1. You've made a typographic error when you entered the name of your kernel 
(kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5) in grub.conf.  This is easy to check.  
Mount boot with a live CD and ls the contents of it.  Then check the name of 
the kernel character-by-character.

2. When you installed your kernel (copied your kernel image in /boot) you had 
not mounted your /boot partition.  This means that all your /boot fs has been 
installed in your / partition.  It is also easy to check.  Unmount /boot and 
then ls the contents of it.  If you can see a kernel image then this is your 
problem.  Mount /dev/sdb5 on a different mount point (e.g. mkdir /mnt/test) 
and then cp -a /boot /mnt/test.  List everything under /mnt/test and compare 
with all files and directories under /boot.  As long as access rights are 
correct for each file and directory you can rm -Rf /boot/* 

 I have got two HDD-s with SATA interface. My system is installed on sdb.
 Here are my partitions, beginning from the 0. cylinder:

 First:   sdb5  ext2 /boot
 Second:   sdb6  ext3 /
 Third:   sdb7  ext3 /home
 Fourth:sdb2  swap

 As other Linux distributions boots fine from logical partitions I think
 this shouldn't be the reason.

That's right.  This is not the reason.

 (After sdb2 there are 2 more primary data partition (with no influence to
 the system)).

 I think GRUB is in the MBR of sdb. (One thing is 100%: the MBR of sda
 remains untouched, however the installer hasn't asked where to install it.)

If Grub is in the MBR of sdb then it must be chainloaded from the MBR of sda, 
or assuming that you have Grub also installed in the MBR of sda then copy 
your grub.conf entry to the /boot filesystem that the MBR of sda boots from.

 grub.conf:

 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd1,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 title=Gentoo Linux
 root (hd1,4)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
 ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sdb6  doscsi
 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5


 Everything looks to be good, but I have no idea what does
 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192
 mean and why appears 'ramdisk'.

Google for initrd


 Reading through many pages about Gentoo linux, and it's power, freedom,
 choices,  package management ...etc. this distribution looks like very
 fine.

You'll realise how fine it is when you learn how to fix it without 
reinstalling.  Gentoo has (almost) self-healing properties . . .  :-)

 I'm now totally depressed The last thing for the rest is reading the
 100 pages documentation of GRUB. It's very complicated for as an 'beginning
 difficult'.

You can try info grub - it is a bit more condensed (but I am not sure if it is 
up to date).

Hope this helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Márton Ali
2007/8/7, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Christian Heim ha scritto:
  On Tuesday 07 August 2007 15:12:51 Alexander Skwar wrote:
  Hi!
 
  Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?
 
  Alexander Skwar
 
  It's being closed until further notice.

 why?

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I think http://gentoo-portage.com/ may be an alternative. However it's
unofficial:

Gentoo-Portage.com 2006 Beta - An unofficial portage website
Gentoo is a trademark of Gentoo Foundation, Inc.
A Mike Valstar http://mikevalstar.com/ Website


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Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Graham Murray
Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's being closed until further notice.

So would it not be a good idea to announce this on the front page[1] or at
least redirect the link to it from the front page to a page which explains
that packages.gentoo.org is unavailable rather than just failing to
connect.

[1] And maybe also an announcement on gentoo.announce and the 'news and
announcements' section of forums.gentoo.org.
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[gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-07 Thread Grant
My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.

Is that definitely the video card?

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] VE-225 cable

2007-08-07 Thread James
Hello,

Previously it has been recommended to get a VE-225 cable
for a variety of uses. I'm trying to salvage the contents
of a hard drive, from a system that will not boot. Grub 1.5
starts up, but it's like there's nothing there.
(The system is so old it does not have bios that allows booting
from any kid of CD). Since I got this new toy, I figured
I'd give it a whirl. It has a usb2.0 port, a connector that
fits right on the hard drive's ide port and a power supply
for the drive, all connected.

The device looks like this in usbview:
USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge
Manufacturer: JMicron
Serial Number: 7D5776281303
Speed: 480Mb/s (high)
USB Version:  2.00
Device Class: 00(ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 64
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: 152d
Product Id: 2338
Revision Number:  1.00

Config Number: 1
Number of Interfaces: 1
Attributes: c0
MaxPower Needed:   2mA

Interface Number: 0
Name: usb-storage
Alternate Number: 0
Class: 08(stor.) 
Sub Class: 6
Protocol: 50
Number of Endpoints: 2

Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms

Endpoint Address: 02
Direction: out
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms

I expected ivman to autodiscover the device and I'd just have
to cd into it. Obviously there's a little bit more to it.

The box  says the company is cables Unlimited.


Any wikis or such to help me figure out how to use this
device, to extract data from HDs directly,are most welcome.

My keyword to post via Gmane is dementia so I'm 
feelin lucky.


James

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[gentoo-user] VE-225 cable

2007-08-07 Thread James
Hello,

Previously it has been recommended to get a VE-225 cable
for a variety of uses. I'm trying to salvage the contents
of a hard drive, from a system that will not boot. Grub 1.5
starts up, but it's like there's nothing there.
(The system is so old it does not have bios that allows booting
from any kid of CD). Since I got this new toy, I figured
I'd give it a whirl. It has a usb2.0 port, a connector that
fits right on the hard drive's ide port and a power supply
for the drive, all connected.

The device looks like this in usbview:
USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge
Manufacturer: JMicron
Serial Number: 7D5776281303
Speed: 480Mb/s (high)
USB Version:  2.00
Device Class: 00(ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 64
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: 152d
Product Id: 2338
Revision Number:  1.00

Config Number: 1
Number of Interfaces: 1
Attributes: c0
MaxPower Needed:   2mA

Interface Number: 0
Name: usb-storage
Alternate Number: 0
Class: 08(stor.) 
Sub Class: 6
Protocol: 50
Number of Endpoints: 2

Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms

Endpoint Address: 02
Direction: out
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms

I expected ivman to autodiscover the device and I'd just have
to cd into it. Obviously there's a little bit more to it.

The box  says the company is cables Unlimited.


Any wikis or such to help me figure out how to use this
device, to extract data from HDs directly,are most welcome.

My keyword to post via Gmane is dementia so I'm 
feelin lucky.


James

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