[gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
Hi, list I have emerged x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2 with '+hal'. I have into xorg.conf Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Nonetheless the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination doesn't work. Can someone give me advice?
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On 24 Jul, Igor Nemilentsev wrote: Hi, list I have emerged x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2 with '+hal'. I have into xorg.conf Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Nonetheless the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination doesn't work. Can someone give me advice? AFAIK, the DontZap option applies to the key sequences Alt Fx to switch to a different terminal. I have the same problem here (same configuration), i.e. CtrlAltDel doesn't work. If you can't exit via your window manager anymore, I think, Neil Bothwick has posted the following advice some days ago: If you find yourself without a keyboard or mouse and can't get back to a console, press and hold alt + sysreq then hit R and E. I did this the other day and it took me back to a console. You're thinking of the complete Alt-SysRq sequence to (relatively) cleanly reboot. Alt-SysRq-R returns keyboard control after it has been locked out by X. You should then be able to do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get back to your VC. I got some SysRq commands printed out tho. Question, do I have to hit the Alt key each time or what? Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The usual full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken - Then for example on tty2 start sleep 300 ; /etc/init.d/xdm stop ; killall X and on tty1 do /etc/init.d/xdm start Another approach is to use acpid. I've read this tip here posted by Volker Hemmann IIRC. If you use acpid, there should be a file called /etc/acpi/default.sh Modify it, substituting the lines: 19 case $action in 20 power) 21/sbin/init 0 with 19 case $action in 20 power) 21/usr/bin/chvt 1 then do /etc/init.d/acpid restart. Now pressing the power button on your machine should switch to the active TTY to tty1 -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On Freitag 24 Juli 2009, Igor Nemilentsev wrote: Hi, list I have emerged x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2 with '+hal'. I have into xorg.conf Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Nonetheless the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination doesn't work. Can someone give me advice? complain to the fedora idiots who thought that zapping is not needed anymore?
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 24 Juli 2009, Igor Nemilentsev wrote: Hi, list I have emerged x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2 with '+hal'. I have into xorg.conf Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Nonetheless the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination doesn't work. Can someone give me advice? complain to the fedora idiots who thought that zapping is not needed anymore? I don't have any of that in my file and it works fine, well, except when I do xorg-server with hal enabled. Then NOTHING keyboard/mouse related works. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Enable DRI on HP Presario 2200 with PCI graphics?
I'm trying to configure xorg-server-1.5.3-r6 to use DRI on a 5-year-old notebook with a PCI graphics card, but the only documentation I've been able to track down that means anything assumes you're using AGP. I've installed the Intel video drivers for xorg-server, and built the ones I could find into my kernal (tried with 2.6.28 and 2.6.29), but no go. Am I missing something glaringly obvious in my configuration, or should I just run it sans DRI? PCI is compiled into the kernal, as are the Intel GMA 852/855 drivers, the I835 drivers and the I915 drivers. All are loaded plus dependancies, but testing with glxinfo tells me it still can't open the display. Output from lspci is below. ja...@laptop ~ $ sudo lspci | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. ja...@laptop ~ $
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: AFAIK, the DontZap option applies to the key sequences Alt Fx to switch to a different terminal. No, the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence behaviour is changed with the option Option DontVTSwitch I have the same problem here (same configuration), i.e. CtrlAltDel doesn't work. If you can't exit via your window manager anymore, I think, Neil Bothwick has posted the following advice some days ago: I figured out to return old style I need this command: setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Or add input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp in configuration file of hal. Thanks for the advice. Regards, Nemilentsev Igor
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
I have emerged x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.2 with '+hal'. I have into xorg.conf Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection Nonetheless the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination doesn't work. Can someone give me advice? complain to the fedora idiots who thought that zapping is not needed anymore? I don't know but do fedora's developers have an very serious influence on Xorg development ?
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:16:34 +0300 (EEST), Igor Nemilentsev wrote: complain to the fedora idiots who thought that zapping is not needed anymore? I don't know but do fedora's developers have an very serious influence on Xorg development ? According to man xorg.conf, DontVTSwitch and DontZap both default to off. I can see the use for such options, when you don't want your users exiting X or even specific programs, but the default seems sensible. Is it just Fedora that change the defaults? -- Neil Bothwick I locked my coathanger in my car; good thing I had a key. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On 24 Jul, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:16:34 +0300 (EEST), Igor Nemilentsev wrote: complain to the fedora idiots who thought that zapping is not needed anymore? I don't know but do fedora's developers have an very serious influence on Xorg development ? According to man xorg.conf, DontVTSwitch and DontZap both default to off. I can see the use for such options, when you don't want your users exiting X or even specific programs, but the default seems sensible. Is it just Fedora that change the defaults? No, it's Gentoo itself. Running xorg-server-1.6.2-r1 (+hal) It seems a 'hal' 'feature' see the post of Igor this morning, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On Freitag 24 Juli 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:16:34 +0300 (EEST), Igor Nemilentsev wrote: complain to the fedora idiots who thought that zapping is not needed anymore? I don't know but do fedora's developers have an very serious influence on Xorg development ? According to man xorg.conf, DontVTSwitch and DontZap both default to off. I can see the use for such options, when you don't want your users exiting X or even specific programs, but the default seems sensible. Is it just Fedora that change the defaults? no, they changed the default from DontZap false to DontZap true. And all of its proponents are fedora/redhat devs. Because ctrl+alt+backspace is bad for emacs users (wtf? I have used emacs in the past - never a problem) or poor stupid people hit it accidentally (and what happens when you do it in windows?). So they changed this eternal old default. No matter that it is extremly usefull to quickly kill a misbehaving X - or as a nice way to log out of kde/gnome/whatever without having to click some confirmation first. of course - ubuntu was happy about the change. But ubuntu is made for ... grr
[gentoo-user] xf86-video-intel-2.8 and compiz - hard locks
Am I the only one experiencing this? I upgraded xf86-video-intel to 2.8.0. After this and other upgrades I noticed my X/GNOME/compiz session kept locking up. It took me a while to deduce it down to the intel driver. Basically what happens this.. shortly after going into X and launching compiz the screen would just lock up. Most of the time the pointer still moves and I can still hear audio if it's playing, but the display does not update. I can ssh into the machine. If i then kill the running compiz I see no difference. Compiz appears to die or at least be in zombie state but no screen updates. Then if I kill the X server the entire box locks up (ssh and all) and I have to hard reboot. I've tried re-merging all my x11-drivers/ and also mesa and xorg-server, but nothing seems to help. I've tried this on kernel 2.6.30 as well as 2.6.31-rc4. I haven't noticed any difference. I downgraded xf86-video-intel to 2.7.1 and so far everything is fine. Anyone else experienced this? Hardware: Lenovo ThinkPad R61 w/ Intel GM965. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Umlaut trouble in filenames
Again, I have some problem with umlauts, this time with remote files I want to download via FTP. In KDE4, Dolphin and konqueror are unable to read the file. I can get it manually via command line ftp, but then again dolphin or ark are unable to do anything with it. No big problem, I can rename the file using wild cards or tab completion, or using convmv, but this just looks wrong to me. Or is this normal? My $LANG is de_DE.utf8, and in /etc/locale.gen I have: en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8 de_DE ISO-8859-1 de...@euro ISO-8859-15 Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
On 24 Jul 2009, at 12:53, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... Because ctrl+alt+backspace ... poor stupid people hit it accidentally (and what happens when you do it in windows?). In Windows it (nowadays) takes you to a menu, which you can easily escape out of. That menu allows you to lock the screen session, bring up task manager, change your password or log out of the PC. I have no idea what it does on Linux, because Linux I use headless on servers. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
I don't know but do fedora's developers have an very serious influence on Xorg development ? According to man xorg.conf, DontVTSwitch and DontZap both default to off. I can see the use for such options, when you don't want your users exiting X or even specific programs, but the default seems sensible. Is it just Fedora that change the defaults? Yes, this options is default off. And this means that Zap and VTSwitch is allowed.( no dontzap) If option DontZap is off that means that Ctrl-Alt-Bs should work. Nonetheless the option DontVTSwitch acts as expected but DontZap doesn't. As I think it is embedded into source or into default compilation options that we are forced ( if need) to apply some things which wasn't required before. As least if xorg is compiled with hal. By the way Ubuntu and Fedora have the package named dontzap. Why:) Regards, Nemilentsev Igor Email:trez...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-video-intel-2.8 and compiz - hard locks
I forgot to mention. This seems to be compiz-specific. If I run metacity, even with metacity's compositing manager enabled, I don't experience this issue. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-video-intel-2.8 and compiz - hard locks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Albert Hopkins escreveu: I forgot to mention. This seems to be compiz-specific. If I run metacity, even with metacity's compositing manager enabled, I don't experience this issue. -a I cannot help you cos i have a intel graphic adapter too. I'll only say a words about this chipset. DAMN HOLY SHIT!! P.S.: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkppuZ4ACgkQ35zeJy7JhCjPkACgh/rqQKYd2Wb+bBcrDuAnrJEg VpEAoJh8dk5ZelX2F0TPIi+Hh3lHL6by =6Wcg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Re: DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stroller wrote: In Windows it (nowadays) takes you to a menu, which you can easily escape out of. That menu allows you to lock the screen session, bring up task manager, change your password or log out of the PC. I have no idea what it does on Linux, because Linux I use headless on servers. You are thinking of Ctrl-Alt-Del; in Windows, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp does application-specific tasks, such as acting like Ctrl-Bksp or Alt-Bksp, or not doing anything at all. Ctrl-Alt-Bksp killing the X server is a surprising difference for the average Windows user. - -- ABCD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpp6JkACgkQOypDUo0oQOrepgCfW7be4EO0zTvLvxJfpWFF2wVK qgUAn1qRqOJmD8ibTbWU3KDPNxkOhYn/ =gMip -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] amarok will not emerge
Yes, I've run it multiple times. Since amarok will not compile it doesn't help much. Amarok is the only thing that needs to be rebuilt. Skippy On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:12:08 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote the words: On Mittwoch 22 Juli 2009, Adrian wrote: Greetings all - I am having problems with amarok. Details are in the Gentoo forum at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-781796.html Can anyone assist please? Without amarok I can't load my ipod. Oh such sad days! Grrr.. Thank you much! Skippy have you run revdep-rebuilt recently? -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
Greetings, I'm having exactly the same problem and have been trying to fix it. Could you please specify where in xorg.conf you placed setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp And where is the hal configuration file you inserted input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Thanks so very much, this is driving me nuts! Skippy On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:44:59 +0300 (EEST) Igor Nemilentsev trez...@gmail.com wrote the words: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: AFAIK, the DontZap option applies to the key sequences Alt Fx to switch to a different terminal. No, the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence behaviour is changed with the option Option DontVTSwitch I have the same problem here (same configuration), i.e. CtrlAltDel doesn't work. If you can't exit via your window manager anymore, I think, Neil Bothwick has posted the following advice some days ago: I figured out to return old style I need this command: setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Or add input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp in configuration file of hal. Thanks for the advice. Regards, Nemilentsev Igor
[gentoo-user] Re: DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Skippy wrote: Greetings, I'm having exactly the same problem and have been trying to fix it. Could you please specify where in xorg.conf you placed setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp And where is the hal configuration file you inserted input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Thanks so very much, this is driving me nuts! Skippy On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:44:59 +0300 (EEST) Igor Nemilentsev trez...@gmail.com wrote the words: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: AFAIK, the DontZap option applies to the key sequences Alt Fx to switch to a different terminal. No, the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence behaviour is changed with the option Option DontVTSwitch I have the same problem here (same configuration), i.e. CtrlAltDel doesn't work. If you can't exit via your window manager anymore, I think, Neil Bothwick has posted the following advice some days ago: I figured out to return old style I need this command: setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Or add input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp in configuration file of hal. Thanks for the advice. Regards, Nemilentsev Igor I'm not sure how it goes in xorg.conf, as I no longer use that to configure my keyboard driver (as I use evdev, which is configured using HAL. If you are using the evdev driver, then you need to edit HAL's config. To do so, create a new file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi (or any other name in that directory that ends in .fdi, they are checked in ASCIIbetical order, so 99-local.fdi is used near the end...), and modify the following to match your own preferences: - 8 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? deviceinfo version=0.2 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringevdev/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringevdev/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringus/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbVariant type=string/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge /match /deviceinfo - 8 The format is a simple XML file, so it shouldn't be too hard to -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpqGyUACgkQOypDUo0oQOpyVQCcDo8cSHthDBZ1g1SAUsj+B+vr NUkAoINROLJSY49ZWgLvfajjaxrSMVGR =wgHr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] DontZap and Ctrl+Alt+Bs
Greetings, I'm having exactly the same problem and have been trying to fix it. Could you please specify where in xorg.conf you placed setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp Please enter it in command line. And where is the hal configuration file you inserted input.xkb.options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp I have it in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ I just added. merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringgrp:caps_toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:switch,compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_ bksp/merge
Re: [gentoo-user] File synchronisation utility (searching for/about to program it)
Hello, Simon: I'm the last you would want to give advice about this question, but even though I am not a programmer, I have been using git to sync on three different systems. I am using a flash drive as a cache, so to speak. I followed some tips from the Emacs org-mode mailing list to get this going. It wasn't simple for me to recover when some files got out of sync on one of the machines, but it was simple enough that even I could figure it out. I used a bare repo on the flash drive and push from each machine to this, a very simple procedure that can be automated through cron, and pull to each machine also from the bare repository. I am not syncing a programming project, but my various work. Again, I am the least clueful you will find on this list, but if you wish for me to tell you the steps I followed, that is possible. One of the mailing list threads that got me up to speed relatively quickly was at this link. (Hope it's ok to link another mailing list from this one.) http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgm...@gnu.org/msg11647.html I apologize if the existence of a bare repo as an intermediary is a problem. This can be done on a server as well. Alan Davis You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing---that's what counts. Richard Feynman
