Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On 20/04/10 09:47, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Con-Kolivas-meldet-sich-mit-neuem-Scheduler-zurueck http://translate.google.com/translate?js=yprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=1eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux-magazin.de%2FNEWS%2FCon-Kolivas-meldet-sich-mit-neuem-Scheduler-zuruecksl=detl=en signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] hplip recompiled with scanner use flag now scanning works, printing does not.
2010/4/19 ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com: Recompiled hplip for use with C5180 with new use flag: scanner. Now scanning works, printing does not. Recompiled with new-hpcups use flag. Still not working. Output from cups web interface: /usr/libexec/cups/backend/hp failed Is it connected via network or usb? Which hplip version? Which cups version? -- Daniel Pielmeier
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On 20 Apr, Justin wrote: On 20/04/10 09:47, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Con-Kolivas-meldet-sich-mit-neuem-Scheduler-zurueck http://translate.google.com/translate?js=yprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=1eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux-magazin.de%2FNEWS%2FCon-Kolivas-meldet-sich-mit-neuem-Scheduler-zuruecksl=detl=en Many thanks, that's very interesting. I'll try this patchset. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where's my wireless AP?
On 20 April 2010 02:27, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: I think the proper country code is GB not UK, maybe that's why it didn't work. With iw try: iw reg set GB or in your wpa_supplicant config: country=GB Thanks Paul, good pointer. It seems that the UK also has GB as well 'UK' as its alpha2 code. Anyway, I changed 'country=GB' in my wpa_supplicant but unfortunately it is not being picked up: # iwlist wlan0 freq wlan0 11 channels in total; available frequencies : Channel 01 : 2.412 GHz Channel 02 : 2.417 GHz Channel 03 : 2.422 GHz Channel 04 : 2.427 GHz Channel 05 : 2.432 GHz Channel 06 : 2.437 GHz Channel 07 : 2.442 GHz Channel 08 : 2.447 GHz Channel 09 : 2.452 GHz Channel 10 : 2.457 GHz Channel 11 : 2.462 GHz Current Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) then: # iw reg set GB # iw reg get country US: (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (6, 27) (5170 - 5190 @ 40), (6, 23) (5190 - 5210 @ 40), (6, 23) (5210 - 5230 @ 40), (6, 23) (5230 - 5330 @ 40), (6, 23) (5735 - 5835 @ 40), (6, 30) # iw list Wiphy phy0 Band 1: Frequencies: * 2412 MHz [1] (27.0 dBm) * 2417 MHz [2] (27.0 dBm) * 2422 MHz [3] (27.0 dBm) * 2427 MHz [4] (27.0 dBm) * 2432 MHz [5] (27.0 dBm) * 2437 MHz [6] (27.0 dBm) * 2442 MHz [7] (27.0 dBm) * 2447 MHz [8] (27.0 dBm) * 2452 MHz [9] (27.0 dBm) * 2457 MHz [10] (27.0 dBm) * 2462 MHz [11] (27.0 dBm) * 2467 MHz [12] (disabled) * 2472 MHz [13] (disabled) * 2484 MHz [14] (disabled) Hmm, it's stuck in US mode for some reason. Firmware? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] hplip recompiled with scanner use flag now scanning works, printing does not.
Hello Daniel The all-in-one printer is connected via USB. The following versions are installed: net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1 net-print/cups-1.3.11-r1 Thanks ubiquitous1...@gmail.com On 20/04/10 16:59, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2010/4/19 ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com: Recompiled hplip for use with C5180 with new use flag: scanner. Now scanning works, printing does not. Recompiled with new-hpcups use flag. Still not working. Output from cups web interface: /usr/libexec/cups/backend/hp failed Is it connected via network or usb? Which hplip version? Which cups version?
Re: [gentoo-user] 'wifi' USE flag in firefox
On 19 April 2010 15:43, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea what the 'wifi' USE flag actually does in www-client/mozilla-firefox? Is it merely to know when the machine is on/off line and therefore try to connect to the Internet? It enables Necko WiFi (and depends on wireless-tools). What does that mean specifically? I don't know, but perhaps it is related to this: Introduced in Gecko 1.9.1: Code with UniversalXPConnect privileges can monitor the list of available WiFi access points to obtain information about them including their SSID, MAC address, and signal strength. This capability was introduced primarily to allow WiFi-based location services to be used by geolocation services. Hmm Mozilla's netlib. I had a look at the slides and bits of the documentation on the Mozilla website, but I am still not really clear what it does, or why it is needed. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-box stopping services
additional thoughts: Am 20.04.2010 14:01, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I thought maybe the NIC has a problem? Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) but as it doesn't lose its IP and config I think that is not the case here? I noticed that both relevant kernel-modules were loaded as noted here: http://www.mail-archive.com/net...@vger.kernel.org/msg60241.html I was able to rmmod 8139cp without losing network ... This might just be a cosmetic issue, I just wanted to add that info. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Used versions --- mkisofs: 2.1.1a77 growisofs: 7.1 growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead of growisofs... Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. if you have more than 2 cores, you shouldn't use them ;)
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail
I think you all are missing something... sendmail is better documented than any of the other pretenders. Now understand, that I am easily the dullest knife in the drawer on this list even though by unix/linux standards I'm fairly long in the tooth having started my computing skills in 1996 and broke in on redhat at that time (using sendmail). I'm sad to say, I'm still a noob in a vast number of areas. I've used sendmail all that time. If I can figure out how to use it It really must not be that hard. At least not hard to find piles of help on google. Admittedly though my usage has always been just a homeboy home lan administrator so closest I ever come to using sendmail anything like what its target usage base is, would be a home lan mailhub. Unless, I'm terribly misinformed, sendmail is still the most commonly used mta in the unix world of servers. At least according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendmail Qmail home page says it is the second most common MTA but doesn't say who is first its sendmail... I'm pretty sure. About all the snipes concerning hacking sendmail.cf... I'm sure you are all aware that any hacking needs to happen in sendmail.mc... then let m4 sort out sendmail.cf.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox
ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got bad performance. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml - deface On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Grant wrote: did etc-update over write xorg.conf ? I actually don't use an xorg.conf at all. - Grant I just updated a lot of packages on my laptop including xorg stuff, the intel-drivers, and firefox. Firefox is running really slowly now, with kind of a lag to everything. Does anyone know of anything to try in order to fix it? Do I need to disable or enable DRI? - Grant -- Message Cleaned by MailScanner http://www.fluxlabs.net
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where's my wireless AP?
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, it's stuck in US mode for some reason. Firmware? Maybe you're right, I googled and found some info that the old broadcom driver didn't support channels 12 and 13 for some reason with certain hardware. However, it appears b43 is the old driver, and the new one which should support those channels and setting regulatory domain is the Broadcom STA driver, which is in portage for ~x86 and ~amd64 (net-wireless/broadcom-sta). Try to emerge it, blacklist your old b43 driver and hope it works. :) Here's the Broadcom STA docs: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt (I don't have a broadcom card so this is all guessing, hope it helps!)
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On 20 Apr, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. if you have more than 2 cores, you shouldn't use them ;) Why, it's said to scale well up to 16 cores (at least)? Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 This part jumps out at me. Is /dev/hdd your new DVD burner? Is it really IDE and not SATA? And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to an IDE drive?
Re: [gentoo-user] hplip recompiled with scanner use flag now scanning works, printing does not.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:58 AM, ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Daniel The all-in-one printer is connected via USB. The following versions are installed: net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1 net-print/cups-1.3.11-r1 Try to blacklist rmmod the usblp module. I had to do that for my HP USB printer to work. Whenever usblp module was loaded, printing failed... I don't know if it applies to your printer as well, but it's something easy to try. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 doesn't detect power capabilities (hibernate, suspend, battery and frequency scaling)
On Friday 16 April 2010 08:41:57 Yoav Luft wrote: After some experiments with the ndiswrapper driver, KDE4 stopped providing a frontend to various power capabilities. It doesn't detect the battery, it doesn't offer suspend or hibernate it the shutdown script, et cetera. The battery properties are still accessable through /sys/class/power/BAT1 and I can still suspend and hibernate using pm-suspend and pm-hibernate. I would like use KDE's frontend, though, as finding out how long the battery can hold from reading it's voltage isn't the most comfortable thing. Make sure that the hald daemon starts before kde does. --- TopperH http://topperh.blackmamba.kicks-ass.org
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-04-20, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: About all the snipes concerning hacking sendmail.cf... I'm sure you are all aware that any hacking needs to happen in sendmail.mc... then let m4 sort out sendmail.cf. IOW, sendmail has a configuration file so incomprehensible that the configuration file needs a configuration file. Internet mail is quite complex, yes.
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 20 Apr, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. if you have more than 2 cores, you shouldn't use them ;) Why, it's said to scale well up to 16 cores (at least)? Helmut. different people had different results.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail
On 2010-04-20, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: On 2010-04-20, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: About all the snipes concerning hacking sendmail.cf... I'm sure you are all aware that any hacking needs to happen in sendmail.mc... then let m4 sort out sendmail.cf. IOW, sendmail has a configuration file so incomprehensible that the configuration file needs a configuration file. Internet mail is quite complex, yes. Yet all of the other popular MTAs seem to have human-readable configuration files and don't need a meta-configuration-file/language to generate their configuration files. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Where does it go when at you flush? gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail
On 2010-04-20, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: About all the snipes concerning hacking sendmail.cf... I'm sure you are all aware that any hacking needs to happen in sendmail.mc... then let m4 sort out sendmail.cf. IOW, sendmail has a configuration file so incomprehensible that the configuration file needs a configuration file. QED -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Do you guys know we at just passed thru a BLACK gmail.comHOLE in space?
[gentoo-user] Re: I want my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace back
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:
The 'new' way of setting it up without a xorg.conf file is to set it up in
your /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi like so:
merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge
Read more details here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide.xml
I am running hal, but if I enter the suggested line:
(all on one line [wrapped for mail here])
merge key=input.xkb.options
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge
into /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi
And it is the only line in there.
(Maybe there is supposed to be some header type lines above it?)
C+A+bkspc still doesn't kill X.
It seems to have no effect at all when in xorg.conf as suggested or
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi as suggested.
---- ---=--- -
The only things I've tried that work are
1) From that same page of tips:
setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
That kills X instantly
2) my own concoction:
kill -TERM `ps wwaux|awk '/[X].*noliste[n]/{print $2}'`
Also instantly kills X
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 This part jumps out at me. Is /dev/hdd your new DVD burner? Is it really IDE and not SATA? And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to an IDE drive? /dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 This part jumps out at me. Is /dev/hdd your new DVD burner? Is it really IDE and not SATA? And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to an IDE drive? /dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin I learned something new, thanks :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
On 4/20/2010 11:01 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to an IDE drive? /dev/fd0 is a floppy. /dev/fd/0 is file descriptor 0 for the current process -- stdin.
[gentoo-user] sci-physics/root slotting?
Hello, For anyone who uses the data analysis framework ROOT developed mainly at CERN (sorry, I didn't name it 'root'), I can imagine that slotting would be an extremely useful feature. Anyone who doesn't use or know root, but has experience or opinions on how or when slots should be used, your feedback would be appreciated, too. All kinds of macros and libraries will go bonkers on the wrong version, and there are even binary linux executables out there that want certain versions installed. It's a pity I didn't think of this a few years ago. It occurred to me tonight that adding slotting should be easy and very useful. I've never added slotting, but I'm already running root as a local overlay because I need root-5.20 (with patches from 5.22+ to keep my system otherwise current!), and so I'm going to give it a go at least for myself. Actually, few of the people I know in physics run Gentoo, but they also complain about root versions. Maybe I at least have an argument that would compel anyone to switch to Gentoo if we get slots running. If this seems like a good feature request, I'll put a modified ebuild on bugzilla for all present root versions after I can test it (may take a few days, since root isn't a quick compile and I have physics to do). Obviously, if this happens, I need to consider a bugzilla feature request on eselect as well, or make eselect-root. Never touched that source either, but I will, if nothing else, be hacking together an eselect-root shell script for myself. If I manage to modify the eselect source, then at least I might be more deserving of the ChangeLog credit, since I don't think making the number for slot non-zero in a few ebuilds really qualifies as real work. Might also need the multislot use flag. Anyone out there interested in this or have some feedback for me? If it's only me, I'm hesitant to submit it to bugzilla (no sooner than next week), but I'll be running it as local ebuilds as slots from here on out. Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] hplip recompiled with scanner use flag now scanning works, printing does not.
Paul Hartman schrieb am 20.04.2010 17:03: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:58 AM, ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Daniel The all-in-one printer is connected via USB. The following versions are installed: net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1 net-print/cups-1.3.11-r1 Try to blacklist rmmod the usblp module. I had to do that for my HP USB printer to work. Whenever usblp module was loaded, printing failed... I don't know if it applies to your printer as well, but it's something easy to try. :) I do not own an all-in-one printer so I can not test, but if Paul's suggestions do not work can you tell me the permissions of your device. lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:1712 Hewlett-Packard Printing Support Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub lsusb tells you to which bus the printer is attached. In my case it is Bus 001 and Device 002 so I have the following device /dev/bus/usb/001/002 ls -al /dev/bus/usb/001/002 crw-rw-r-- 1 root lp 189, 1 20. Apr 19:05 /dev/bus/usb/001/002 There should also be a /dev/usb/lp0 ls -al /dev/usb/lp0 crw-rw 1 root lp 180, 0 20. Apr 19:05 /dev/usb/lp0 Do you have the same permissions or do they differ? -- Daniel Pielmeier signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] In which order services are started?
Hi, $SUBJECT says it all: Is there any way to find out in which order services are started during boot-up (except for looking at boot-up screen and making notes)? I tried to figure it out looking into /etc/init.d scripts, but there are a lot of depend/need/use/before statements, so I quicky lost trace... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox
Dnia 2010-04-19, pon o godzinie 20:24 -0500, deface pisze: ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got bad performance. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml - deface But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf, moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so) Grant, try to reemerge firefox (and if You haven't done it already the x11-drivers/*) -- Bartosz Szatkowski KeyFP: 1568 D5A7 B14C 0727 1C61 ACFB ABDE C08A DDB7 1F70 There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels
Re: [gentoo-user] In which order services are started?
Dnia 2010-04-20, wto o godzinie 19:47 +0200, Jarry pisze: Hi, $SUBJECT says it all: Is there any way to find out in which order services are started during boot-up (except for looking at boot-up screen and making notes)? I tried to figure it out looking into /etc/init.d scripts, but there are a lot of depend/need/use/before statements, so I quicky lost trace... Jarry You could use the interactive way so you will be prompted to accept every service starts. You can do this by pouching I during OpenRC start (or something like this - there is some kind of message, during OpenRC start, something like Press I for interactive mode) -- Bartosz Szatkowski KeyFP: 1568 D5A7 B14C 0727 1C61 ACFB ABDE C08A DDB7 1F70 The freedom to study how a program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1)
Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox
ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got bad performance. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml - deface But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf, moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so) Exactly. Grant, try to reemerge firefox (and if You haven't done it already the x11-drivers/*) I re-emerged them with no change. I do think it has to do with x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel though. I've had this problem in the past, and the solution was to mask x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.7.1. Unfortunately, those drivers don't work with the latest xorg updates and now I'm on xf86-video-intel-2.9.1. My wife has an identical laptop with the same issue. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox
Dnia 2010-04-20, wto o godzinie 11:51 -0700, Grant pisze: ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got bad performance. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml - deface But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf, moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so) Exactly. Grant, try to reemerge firefox (and if You haven't done it already the x11-drivers/*) I re-emerged them with no change. I do think it has to do with x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel though. I've had this problem in the past, and the solution was to mask x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.7.1. Unfortunately, those drivers don't work with the latest xorg updates and now I'm on xf86-video-intel-2.9.1. My wife has an identical laptop with the same issue. - Grant Are you using modeset? What about other apps (try some video etc) - laging to? Check if You have Direct rendering true in out of glxinfo. -- Bartosz Szatkowski KeyFP: 1568 D5A7 B14C 0727 1C61 ACFB ABDE C08A DDB7 1F70 There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels
[gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On 04/20/2010 05:41 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 20 Apr, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. if you have more than 2 cores, you shouldn't use them ;) Why, it's said to scale well up to 16 cores (at least)? It's practically *made* for 2 and 4 cores. Single core enhancements were added later. Volker's recommendations is based on his own tests with the patches. I'm on a dual core Intel E6600 and the patches help a big deal to keep the GUI responsive and fluid. Also note that there's much hate and fanboy-ism around this issue. Expect people telling you how this is crap, or how the default Linux scheduler is crap, etc, without them really having a clue what they're talking about. (I am *not* referring to Volker here, mind you.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Used versions --- mkisofs: 2.1.1a77 growisofs: 7.1 growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead of growisofs... Jörg Well, I didn't tell it to use that either. I let k3b take care of what program to use. Funny thing is, it appears to have worked later on. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] In which order services are started?
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:47:55 +0200, Jarry wrote: Is there any way to find out in which order services are started during boot-up (except for looking at boot-up screen and making notes)? You could turn on boot logging in rc.conf and look at /var/log/rc.log. -- Neil Bothwick Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead of growisofs... Jörg Well, I didn't tell it to use that either. I let k3b take care of what program to use. Funny thing is, it appears to have worked later on. There are many cases where growisofs has problems but cdrecord works fine. This is one reason why newer k3b versions allow you to specify which program to use. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I want my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace back
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 16:30:18 Harry Putnam wrote:
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:
The 'new' way of setting it up without a xorg.conf file is to set it up
in your /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi like so:
merge key=input.xkb.options
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge
Read more details here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide
.xml
I am running hal, but if I enter the suggested line:
(all on one line [wrapped for mail here])
merge key=input.xkb.options
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge
into /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi
And it is the only line in there.
(Maybe there is supposed to be some header type lines above it?)
C+A+bkspc still doesn't kill X.
It seems to have no effect at all when in xorg.conf as suggested or
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi as suggested.
---- ---=--- -
The only things I've tried that work are
1) From that same page of tips:
setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
That kills X instantly
2) my own concoction:
kill -TERM `ps wwaux|awk '/[X].*noliste[n]/{print $2}'`
Also instantly kills X
I think you did not read the link properly. You are meant to copy the
relevant .fdi file from /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi and then modify the last paragraph:
merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus/merge
merge key=input.xkb.options
type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge
merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string /
by the adding the above line starting with type= ...
If this is not clear please let me know and I will have to post the whole
content of the file.
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:45:27AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: /dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin I learned something new, thanks :) To complete your education :) fd stands for file descriptor. fd/0 = stdin fd/1 = stdout fd/2 = stderr You can create your own file descriptors and use them to manipulate opened files. See man bash for more info. (It is, for example, necessary if you do CLI scripting with a user interface using Dialog.) Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead of growisofs... Jörg Well, I didn't tell it to use that either. I let k3b take care of what program to use. Funny thing is, it appears to have worked later on. There are many cases where growisofs has problems but cdrecord works fine. This is one reason why newer k3b versions allow you to specify which program to use. Jörg It took me a bit to figure it out but I think I have it disabled now. I saw the list but didn't know I could disable anything in the list. I'll test when making my next set of backups. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where's my wireless AP?
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 15:25:14 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, it's stuck in US mode for some reason. Firmware? Maybe you're right, I googled and found some info that the old broadcom driver didn't support channels 12 and 13 for some reason with certain hardware. However, it appears b43 is the old driver, and the new one which should support those channels and setting regulatory domain is the Broadcom STA driver, which is in portage for ~x86 and ~amd64 (net-wireless/broadcom-sta). Try to emerge it, blacklist your old b43 driver and hope it works. :) Thanks Paul. This is confusing me ... I thought that the b43 (as opposed to the legacy bcm43xx) is the latest in kernel driver and that's why I chose it. It is probably still under development. I am just emerging gentoo-sources-2.6.33-r1 and I'll see if the situation improves. Otherwise I will have to remove it and emerge the proprietary drivers instead, until the b43 matures a bit more. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/20/2010 05:41 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 20 Apr, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 20 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, has anybody experience with these new sys-kernel/ck-sources? I could only see they have additional patches (in addition to those of gentoo-sources). But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? Thanks for your opinion, Helmut. if you have more than 2 cores, you shouldn't use them ;) Why, it's said to scale well up to 16 cores (at least)? It's practically *made* for 2 and 4 cores. Single core enhancements were added later. Volker's recommendations is based on his own tests with the patches. I'm on a dual core Intel E6600 and the patches help a big deal to keep the GUI responsive and fluid. Also note that there's much hate and fanboy-ism around this issue. Expect people telling you how this is crap, or how the default Linux scheduler is crap, etc, without them really having a clue what they're talking about. (I am *not* referring to Volker here, mind you.) to be honest - whenever I try ck patches I see zero improvements - so I stay with my usual kernel-policy: the less patches the better and scrap them.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where's my wireless AP?
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 22:24:41 Mick wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2010 15:25:14 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, it's stuck in US mode for some reason. Firmware? Maybe you're right, I googled and found some info that the old broadcom driver didn't support channels 12 and 13 for some reason with certain hardware. However, it appears b43 is the old driver, and the new one which should support those channels and setting regulatory domain is the Broadcom STA driver, which is in portage for ~x86 and ~amd64 (net-wireless/broadcom-sta). Try to emerge it, blacklist your old b43 driver and hope it works. :) Thanks Paul. This is confusing me ... I thought that the b43 (as opposed to the legacy bcm43xx) is the latest in kernel driver and that's why I chose it. It is probably still under development. I am just emerging gentoo-sources-2.6.33-r1 and I'll see if the situation improves. Otherwise I will have to remove it and emerge the proprietary drivers instead, until the b43 matures a bit more. OK, the 2.6.33-r1 seems better so far: # iwlist wlan0 freq wlan0 14 channels in total; available frequencies : Channel 01 : 2.412 GHz Channel 02 : 2.417 GHz Channel 03 : 2.422 GHz Channel 04 : 2.427 GHz Channel 05 : 2.432 GHz Channel 06 : 2.437 GHz Channel 07 : 2.442 GHz Channel 08 : 2.447 GHz Channel 09 : 2.452 GHz Channel 10 : 2.457 GHz Channel 11 : 2.462 GHz Channel 12 : 2.467 GHz Channel 13 : 2.472 GHz Channel 14 : 2.484 GHz Current Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) and # iw list Wiphy phy0 Band 1: Frequencies: * 2412 MHz [1] (20.0 dBm) * 2417 MHz [2] (20.0 dBm) * 2422 MHz [3] (20.0 dBm) * 2427 MHz [4] (20.0 dBm) * 2432 MHz [5] (20.0 dBm) * 2437 MHz [6] (20.0 dBm) * 2442 MHz [7] (20.0 dBm) * 2447 MHz [8] (20.0 dBm) * 2452 MHz [9] (20.0 dBm) * 2457 MHz [10] (20.0 dBm) * 2462 MHz [11] (20.0 dBm) * 2467 MHz [12] (20.0 dBm) (passive scanning, no IBSS) * 2472 MHz [13] (20.0 dBm) (passive scanning, no IBSS) * 2484 MHz [14] (20.0 dBm) (passive scanning, no IBSS) # iw reg get country 00: (2402 - 2472 @ 40), (6, 20) (2457 - 2482 @ 20), (6, 20), PASSIVE-SCAN, NO-IBSS (2474 - 2494 @ 20), (6, 20), NO-OFDM, PASSIVE-SCAN, NO-IBSS (5170 - 5250 @ 40), (6, 20), PASSIVE-SCAN, NO-IBSS (5735 - 5835 @ 40), (6, 20), PASSIVE-SCAN, NO-IBSS I guess country 00 means no country code? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail
On 20 Apr 2010, at 14:53, Harry Putnam wrote: I think you all are missing something... sendmail is better documented than any of the other pretenders. ... Unless, I'm terribly misinformed, sendmail is still the most commonly used mta in the unix world of servers. I would be surprised if it is better documented or more widely used than Postfix. (Although I have to admit I find Postfix documentation difficult, IMO his is because it's so flexible powerful). Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail
On 19 Apr 2010, at 22:50, Mick wrote: ... The problem is that you'll spend an hour or two setting it all up, it'll work, you'll never touch it again. Then, two years later something will require you to reconfigure it and there will be no way on this earth that you will remember what you did or why it made any sense at the time! Ha, ha! :-)) To be fair, is this not mostly the case with the majority of big, powerful servers on *nix platforms? I have certainly found this to be the case with Apache, Postfix and to a lesser extend Samba. Oh! Also syslog-ng's filtering options. The only text-based configuration file I've found easy to recreate has been that of Dovecot. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-box stopping services
On 20 Apr 2010, at 13:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: ... One of my customers runs an old P3 as a mail-gateway and samba-server (yeah, I know ...) behind his firewall ... They simply don't want to swap hardware, they are happy ... until the following started to happen every week or so: You emphasise how old the hardware is, but this really isn't a problem. As you say, one increasingly fears the death of a system which is getting so old, but I have two systems nearly as old running for years without hardware problems. The questions I must ask are: - How uptodate is the Gentoo software? - Do you run updates regularly? - Did you run any shortly before this started occurring? - Have you run revdep-rebuild and stuff? - Does the system have sufficient swap? Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where's my wireless AP?
On 19 Apr 2010, at 23:03, Mick wrote: ... There might be an option to change the region of your wifi NIC. Channels 12 13 are legal in Europe, IIRC, but not in the USA. You should be able to change the channel of the AP - typically they have a drop-down which will choose either auto or a specific channel. Likewise I have seen some APs ask what region you're in when they're first setup. I've set it up for UK so it has 13 channels. On the other hand your hint pointed me to wpa_supplicant.conf on my laptop, in which I had the country parameter commented out. I set that up to UK, but it still seems to show 11 channels. :-( I'll reboot later to see if it makes any odds. No change :-( # iwlist wlan0 channel wlan0 11 channels in total; available frequencies : Channel 01 : 2.412 GHz Channel 02 : 2.417 GHz Channel 03 : 2.422 GHz Channel 04 : 2.427 GHz Channel 05 : 2.432 GHz Channel 06 : 2.437 GHz Channel 07 : 2.442 GHz Channel 08 : 2.447 GHz Channel 09 : 2.452 GHz Channel 10 : 2.457 GHz Channel 11 : 2.462 GHz Current Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Short of hacking the firmware (which even if I knew how to, I am not allowed) or waiting for the linux driver to mature, I am not sure if there's anything I can do. Can't you just change the channel the AP uses? If you live somewhere with a high population density, then channel 13 may be a good one to use to avoid the interference of Sky1234, BTHomeHub5678 and all the other free routers supplied by ISPs which will tend to default to channels 1, 6 and 11. However, if you live somewhere with fewer neighbours channel 13 may not be necessary. Try a scan for nearby APs, note some sections of frequency that are relatively unused [1], reset your router to use that channel, reboot it and try it. Stroller. [1] Slightly difficult to encapsulate all the criteria for this in just a few words, so try a few different channels and write back if you need a longer explanation.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/ck-sources - why should I use them?
On 20 Apr 2010, at 09:02, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... But I didn't find which patches and why these have only been applied to ck-sources? They did not get applied to ck-sources. ck-sources *is* the patches. Hmmm this seems to be an issue of semantics. When one runs `emerge ck-sources` one presumably will have a set of kernel sources with Mr CK's patches applied. I don't suppose that `emerge ck-sources` downloads the patches only, and leaves them to be applied by hand! Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] 'wifi' USE flag in firefox
On 20 Apr 2010, at 13:17, Mick wrote: ... Introduced in Gecko 1.9.1: Code with UniversalXPConnect privileges can monitor the list of available WiFi access points to obtain information about them including their SSID, MAC address, and signal strength. This capability was introduced primarily to allow WiFi- based location services to be used by geolocation services. Hmm Mozilla's netlib. I had a look at the slides and bits of the documentation on the Mozilla website, but I am still not really clear what it does, or why it is needed. I *believe* that the idea of having geolocation accessible to the browser is so that websites should be able to provide locally-relevant information. The classic browser has no idea where you are, so if you open the homepage of Starbucks / McDonalds / Burgerking / Tesco / Sainsburys / whatever and click on find my nearest store then you'll need to enter your zip code in order for the site to provide you that information. I *believe* that a geolocation-aware browser would be able to tell the site where you are. So as soon as you open the webpage, the site will query your browser, your browser will tell it where you are and an AJAXy element on the page would say Your nearest Tesco store is 13th Street... Click here for directions. I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work in practice. It's clearly in its early days. This dougt.org guy (discovered by Googling) seems to be involved with it on the Mozilla side and one of his blog posts links to the W3C Geolocation API Specification, which was only finalised 6 months ago. It says: The Geolocation API defines a high-level interface to location information associated only with the device hosting the implementation, such as latitude and longitude. The API itself is agnostic of the underlying location information sources. Common sources of location information include Global Positioning System (GPS) and location inferred from network signals such as IP address, RFID, WiFi and Bluetooth MAC addresses, and GSM/CDMA cell IDs, as well as user input. No guarantee is given that the API returns the device's actual location. I can see that immediately that it's useful and practical if your GPS talks to your browser and thus your location information is returned to the website. In theory one could determine one's location on the basis that the locations of Fon_AP_1234, SkyHomebroadband_8797 and SmokyCoffeeShop wifi APs, detected by a scan of your laptop's wifi card, are all already known. However I am more sceptical about this in practice. Note that browsers run on mobile phones, which often have GPS built in these days, and that GPS chips are nowadays so cheap they could also be build into laptops, were there the demand. We could probably have a much longer discussion of how this could in theory all work when it's fully developed, but in practice this USE flag probably is of no use to any of us right now (unless, *perhaps*, we're installing Gentoo on a mobile phone). Stroller.
[gentoo-user] xorg-server upgrade
Hello, After updating my machine which included upgrading xorg-server-1.7.6. I was left with a none working mouse and keyboard. After an hour or so of checking I decided to re-emerge xorg-server again to discover a message to rebuild x11-drivers. I rebuilt x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev and mouse and keyboard worked again. Question 1 Should x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev be rebuilt automatically after xorg-server upgrade? Linux/Gentoo appaers to be moving away from xorg.conf and towards hal/policices. When using proprietary graphics drivers you also need xorg.conf. Question 2 Is it possible to use proprietary ati-drivers and nvidia-drivers wthout having to use xorg.conf. Can this be done through hal and will this change in the future? I have tried using x11 radeon driver with built in kernel direct rendering. The performance of this was relatively poor. Stellarium would not work, a few games would barely function. ati-drivers-8.7.2 works well with xorg-server-1.7.6 and cured all these issues but this required unmasking hard masked package. Question 3 Sould I expect x11 radeon driver with built in kernel dri to be as good as fglrx? Direct rendering was running (glxinfo). Thanks. Hope this is clear -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server upgrade
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hello, After updating my machine which included upgrading xorg-server-1.7.6. I was left with a none working mouse and keyboard. After an hour or so of checking I decided to re-emerge xorg-server again to discover a message to rebuild x11-drivers. I rebuilt x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev and mouse and keyboard worked again. Question 1 Should x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev be rebuilt automatically after xorg-server upgrade? Check out module-rebuild. You put a list of packages in it - evdev, keyboard, nvidia-drivers, vmware-modules, etc., and then just run it after an xorg-server upgrade or a kernel change. Once you set it up you don't have to remember too much about which packages need to be rebuilt. I just run module-rebuild -X rebuild and it all gets done for me. Hope this helps, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] In which order services are started?
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 20:28:42 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:47:55 +0200, Jarry wrote: Is there any way to find out in which order services are started during boot-up (except for looking at boot-up screen and making notes)? You could turn on boot logging in rc.conf and look at /var/log/rc.log. I think Jarry wanted to know what to tweak to change the order. I wanted to know this as well not long ago, but I didn't have the energy to chase it. (I wanted gpm to be started earlier in the sequence but without putting it in the boot run level.) -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server upgrade
On Wednesday 21 April 2010 00:33:19 Mark Knecht wrote: Check out module-rebuild. You put a list of packages in it How and where does one do that? -- Rgds Peter.
[gentoo-user] Re: I want my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace back
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: I think you did not read the link properly. You are meant to copy the relevant .fdi file from /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi and then modify the last paragraph: Yes, I did misread apparently... it doesn't say that at all... maybe that is why. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide.xml There is no mention of copying: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi [...] If you want to make the change permanent, regardless of your desktop environment, you have a few more options : * If you use HAL to manage input devices, copy the following HAL fdi snippet into the fdi file from /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ which you use to control your keyboard. merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge If you do not have any custom keyboard rules, you can copy and adapt rules from /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi It never names the file... that; /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi is to be copied to, or anything about the last paragraph. I'm sorry to be so dense here... but I'm missing something still. merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus/merge merge key=input.xkb.options That second line above is not present in my copy of: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi Mick wrote: type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string / by the adding the above line starting with type= ... I see (showing line numbers from:[...]10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi [...] 17 /match 18 19 merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus/merge 20 merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string / 21 /match [...] So do you mean to replace 19 and 20 with: , | merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus/merge | merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge ` Or add the two in box quote after 19... or what?
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrade
On 04/20/2010 04:05 PM, john wrote: Linux/Gentoo appaers to be moving away from xorg.conf and towards hal/policices... That was true in the past, but no longer. The recent release of xorg 1.8 specifically says that hal will not be supported in any future xorg versions, so we should all start looking beyond hal. Don't spend a lot of effort now learning about hal because it's on the way out. (Not many people mourning it's impending demise, apparently.)
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server upgrade
I also upgraded the drivers after a xorg upgrade. The correct drivers need to be emerged: ie. x11-drivers/XF86-input_mouse x11-drivers/XF86-input_keyboard + the video drivers. If you are not sure what drivers you need, just execute qlist /media-video. --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: From: Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server upgrade To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:05 PM On Wednesday 21 April 2010 00:33:19 Mark Knecht wrote: Check out module-rebuild. You put a list of packages in it How and where does one do that? -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrade
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: That was true in the past, but no longer. The recent release of xorg 1.8 specifically says that hal will not be supported in any future xorg versions, so we should all start looking beyond hal. Don't spend a lot of effort now learning about hal because it's on the way out. (Not many people mourning it's impending demise, apparently.) And if you use udev then you need an (at least minimal) xorg.conf.
