Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday 15 November 2010 18:07:27 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:10 on Monday 15 November 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: snipped How is this different from: 1) take a backup 2) check for bad sectors (badblocks) 3) restore backup This is also

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: Adam Carter wrote: One post mentioned that this needs to be reinstalled, I AGREE. Re installation may be *correct*, but sometimes its impractical. I would 1. Pull the drive, and connect it to another fully patched, fully security

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.11.2010 23:50, schrieb Mick: Thanks Stefan, I'm afraid I'm still getting the same problem: rsync: opendir /mnt/User_WinXP/System Volume Information failed: Permission denied (13) Why is rsync trying to open this directory, when I thought I've asked it to exclude it? Maybe you did

[gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I have an up-to-date ~amd64 GenToo installation with has been built on a current AMD64 (Phenom II) machine where I used -mtune=native in etc/make.conf since I didn't think of the case that I would need to port this system to a somewhat older Opteron based machine (still AMD64) But after

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 10:33:34 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I have an up-to-date ~amd64 GenToo installation with has been built on a current AMD64 (Phenom II) machine where I used -mtune=native in etc/make.conf since I didn't think of the case that I would need to port this system to a

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Alex Schuster
J. Roeleveld writes: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is just visiting. It does have NTFS so I am sort of chicken to hook it up to my Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:33 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Helmut Jarausch did opine thusly: Hi, I have an up-to-date ~amd64 GenToo installation with has been built on a current AMD64 (Phenom II) machine where I used -mtune=native in etc/make.conf since I didn't think of the case

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Alex Schuster
J. Roeleveld writes: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is just visiting. It does have NTFS so I am sort of chicken to hook it up to my Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 10:53:28 Alex Schuster wrote: J. Roeleveld writes: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is just visiting. It does

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/16/10 10:56:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: Backup your portage related data and re-install. Seriously - you know you are looking at doing emerge -e world and will need to fiddle stuff to make it complete successfully. If you just reinstall, put your old world file and /etc/portage/

[gentoo-user] Can't move Chromium windows between screens

2010-11-16 Thread Pau Peris
Hi, after updating Chromium to chromium-7.0.517.44 from portage i can't move it between different screens, if i go to Preferencies - Personal - Theme and enable Use borders and title bar (so it shows kwin) i can move chromium windows between screens as i normally do with any other app. Before the

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-16 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
Hello, I think You could try: 1) change cflags in make.conf 2) bootstrap.sh 3) emerge -e system 4) emerge -e world In other words this is how to build a system from stage 1. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 11/16/10 10:56:29, Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Mick
On 16 November 2010 09:00, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.11.2010 23:50, schrieb Mick: Thanks Stefan, I'm afraid I'm still getting the same problem: rsync: opendir /mnt/User_WinXP/System Volume Information failed: Permission denied (13) Why is rsync trying to open this

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Robin Atwood
On Tuesday 16 November 2010, Mick wrote: Try: 'rsync -a -l -v --exclude */System Volume Information -e ssh -c blowfish -l root /mnt/User_WinXP/ 10.10.10.25:/home/httpd/backup' From man rsync Note that if you don’t specify --backup-dir, (1) the --omit-dir-times option will be implied, and (2)

[gentoo-user] Re: [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-16, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: spinrite claims to make the head do other things than what the drive firmware makes it do. I'm afraid I'll have to call bullshit on that. I don't see how some bit of PC software can make a drive head move. The firmware on the drive

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:34 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: On 2010-11-16, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: spinrite claims to make the head do other things than what the drive firmware makes it do. I'm afraid I'll have to call bullshit on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-16 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:10:02 +0100, Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: On 2010-11-15, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Whether Xorg uses HAL or not is controlled by a USE flag isn't it? So upstream choses the defaults for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Mick
On 16 November 2010 16:20, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:34 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: On 2010-11-16, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: spinrite claims to make the head do other things than what the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 16:20:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: for several reasons, first being that the thing is written in assembler. Ah! Come back 1974 - all is forgiven :-) -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

[gentoo-user] Re: [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-16, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:34 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: On 2010-11-16, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: spinrite claims to make the head do other things than what the drive

[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-16, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:10:02 +0100, Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: On 2010-11-15, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Whether Xorg uses HAL or not is controlled by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze

2010-11-16 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com Apparently, though unproven, at 17:34 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: On 2010-11-16, J. Roeleveld

[gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Jarry
Hi, today I updated my bind from 9.4.3_p5 to 9.7.1_p2. I noticed a few changes in configuration so first I did full backup, then uninstalled 9.4.3_p5 first, removed all configuration files, then emerged 9.7.1_p2, and configured it to run from chroot. named seems to start normally: #

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:17 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Jarry did opine thusly: Hi, today I updated my bind from 9.4.3_p5 to 9.7.1_p2. I noticed a few changes in configuration so first I did full backup, then uninstalled 9.4.3_p5 first, removed all configuration files, then

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Jarry
On 16. 11. 2010 20:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you absolutely *have* to run bind? Aside from it being a 100% RFC-compliant reference server, it's a pig to run in real life. For an auth server, powerdns is very good. For a cache, unbound. Well, not *absolutely*, but I'm an old dog used to work

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Jarry did opine thusly: Failing that, there's kill -9, this won't break anything but might disconnect a client. Well, I could kill the process while working in terminal. But when I forget to do it and try to shutdown

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 14:15:00 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:28 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On 16 November 2010 09:00, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.11.2010 23:50, schrieb Mick: You don't show us what you did ...

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: Don't think of --exclude as being a file path match, think of it as more a regex (usually just a literal one). It specifies a pattern that if found if the full pathname, results in the file not being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-16 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:20:02 +0100, Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: On 2010-11-16, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote: [snip] No, the USE flags are purely a Portage thing. The USE flags determine which options are

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 16 November 2010 22:26:28 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 2010-11-16 22:24, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: Excellent, it worked! :-) Glad to hear it. I could help because part of my

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Carter
I have an up-to-date ~amd64 GenToo installation with has been built on a current AMD64 (Phenom II) machine where I used -mtune=native in etc/make.conf since I didn't think of the case that I would need to port this system to a somewhat older Opteron based machine (still AMD64) But after

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2010-11-16 22:24, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: Excellent, it worked! :-) Glad to hear it. I could help because part of my job is running a rather big public ftp mirror that management graciously

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2010-11-16 21:55, schrieb Alan McKinnon: I've seen the weirdest inexplicable things from bind (and vixie-cron too, now that I think of it). OT: what is your recommended alternative to vixie-cron then? thx, S

[gentoo-user] Re: bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread walt
On 11/16/2010 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... For an auth server, powerdns is very good... By 'auth' do you mean something like DNSSEC? If not, who's doing the auth-ing?

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Carter
The problem is, it runs forever, and does not want to stop: Standard practice for any daemon that doesnt want to stop via the init script, most graceful to most forceful; 1. Try the daemons native shutdown command (some have an option to shutdown only after any connected clients are serviced,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Carter
On 11/16/2010 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... For an auth server, powerdns is very good... By 'auth' do you mean something like DNSSEC? If not, who's doing the auth-ing? He means authoritative server (ie a server that has a copy of the zone file) - not authentication.

[gentoo-user] Some possibly useful info on HAL

2010-11-16 Thread walt
I've copy/pasted below a new post to the devicekit-devel mail list. I can't vouch for the accuracy of any of it, but it did catch my attention: === There seems to be a lack of information in a central place about what to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:28 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, David W Noon did opine thusly: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:20:02 +0100, Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: On 2010-11-16, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:20 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, walt did opine thusly: On 11/16/2010 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... For an auth server, powerdns is very good... By 'auth' do you mean something like DNSSEC? If not, who's doing the auth-ing? Do you

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:12 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Stefan G. Weichinger did opine thusly: Am 2010-11-16 21:55, schrieb Alan McKinnon: I've seen the weirdest inexplicable things from bind (and vixie-cron too, now that I think of it). OT: what is your recommended

[gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-16 Thread Walter Dnes
I have a main machine and a backup machine. The main machine is 64-bit and the backup is 32-bit, but otherwise very similar setup. I haven't updated the backup (32-bit machine) for a while, and decided to do so today (115 packages emerge). I normally... emerge -pv --deep --update world |

[gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-16 Thread Grant
I was having trouble getting g-cpan to work with a Bundle of CPAN perl modules and I got frustrated and started to install it with perl -MCPAN -e instead. After a little while I thought better of it and exited the installation, but should I now have perl modules spread across my filesystem that

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Carter
do so today (115 packages emerge). I normally... emerge -pv --deep --update world | less ...before updating, to check for booby-traps. Today, the output on the backup machine blasted to screen, and did not stop until finished. Meanwhile, the bottom of the screen shows lines 1-4/4 (END) .

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Carter
but should I now have perl modules spread across my filesystem that aren't known by portage? Is there any way to clean them up? Would installing the same Bundle with g-cpan be guaranteed to straighten everything out? qfile -orphans ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-16 Thread Grant
but should I now have perl modules spread across my filesystem that aren't known by portage?  Is there any way to clean them up?  Would installing the same Bundle with g-cpan be guaranteed to straighten everything out? qfile -orphans ? That sounds promising but I get: # qfile --orphans

Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-16 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:20:01 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...: Am 2010-11-16 21:55, schrieb Alan McKinnon: I've seen the weirdest inexplicable things from bind (and vixie-cron too, now that I think of it). OT: what is your

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 05:42:24PM -0800, Grant wrote: qfile -orphans ? That sounds promising but I get: # qfile --orphans Usage: qfile opts filename : list all pkgs owning files qfile --orphans needs to take input a filename. So to go through your system looking for all orphaned

[gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Joseph
My ASUS A8V motherboard went down so I change it with another ASUS MB M2NPV along with CPU. Both CPU's were AMD so no need to change flags. Have two hard drives both SATA 200G and 500G However, after trying to boot I get: VFS: Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0) In grub.conf I

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: My ASUS A8V motherboard went down so I change it with another ASUS MB M2NPV along with CPU. Both CPU's were AMD so no need to change flags. Have two hard drives both SATA 200G and 500G However, after trying to boot I get: VFS: Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-16 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:28 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, David W Noon did opine thusly: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:20:02 +0100, Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: On 2010-11-16, David W

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-16 Thread Grant
qfile -orphans ? That sounds promising but I get: # qfile --orphans Usage: qfile opts filename : list all pkgs owning files qfile --orphans needs to take input a filename. So to go through your system looking for all orphaned files, you do something like find / -exec qfile -o  '{}'

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Joseph
On 11/16/10 21:04, Dale wrote: Joseph wrote: My ASUS A8V motherboard went down so I change it with another ASUS MB M2NPV along with CPU. Both CPU's were AMD so no need to change flags. Have two hard drives both SATA 200G and 500G However, after trying to boot I get: VFS: Cannot open root

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: On 11/16/10 21:04, Dale wrote: Joseph wrote: My ASUS A8V motherboard went down so I change it with another ASUS MB M2NPV along with CPU. Both CPU's were AMD so no need to change flags. Have two hard drives both SATA 200G and 500G However, after trying to boot I get: VFS: Cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Joseph
On 11/16/10 21:45, Dale wrote: [snip] The BIOS sees both HD but, boot sector is working OK as grub comes up but then I get a message: VFS: Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0) please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: 0300 4191302 hda driver:

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: On 11/16/10 21:45, Dale wrote: [snip] The BIOS sees both HD but, boot sector is working OK as grub comes up but then I get a message: VFS: Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0) please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: 0300

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Joseph
On 11/16/10 22:40, Dale wrote: Thanks for the hint. What should I look for? I think lspci list some chipset, MCP51 but kernel is not listing anything on MCP51 Try lspci -k from the CD. That should tell you what driver the CD is using. Then while in the kernel config, just look for that

Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Laptop battery not showing up in KDE, Smart Battery calibration

2010-11-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:11 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Thursday 11 November 2010 18:07:35 Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:05 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: If the soldering isn't done correctly, the battery-pack can literally explode when put

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Graham Murray
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com writes: So now system boots but I can not seem to the network card going. On the lspci -k I think you mean lspci -nn (there is no switch -k) No, he does mean 'lspci -k'. The -k switch lists the kernel driver which is handling each item. If you do this from the CD

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: On 11/16/10 22:40, Dale wrote: Thanks for the hint. What should I look for? I think lspci list some chipset, MCP51 but kernel is not listing anything on MCP51 Try lspci -k from the CD. That should tell you what driver the CD is using. Then while in the kernel config, just

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device sda3 or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-16 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Tue, 11/16, Joseph wrote: === Anyhow, dmesg |grep eth shows: forcedeth :00:14.0 ifname eth0, PHY OUI addr. 00:17:31:83:a1:53 udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 Any idea why is it renaming network interface? I have forcedeth loaded in the kernel but it is not bringing