Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges

2011-01-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 04:42:38 William Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 16:23 -0800, Grant wrote: And for those with gigabytes of swap, keep in mind that the majority of processors can only access up to 32 x 2G swapfiles under linux, so 4G is only going to be half used. Unless

Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges

2011-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 09:27 on Tuesday 18 January 2011, Mick did opine thusly: BTW, it used to be that the kernel would not (easily?) access more than 128M of swap for some reason and multiple 128M swap partitions were more efficient than a single larger space, but this has

Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges

2011-01-18 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 07:27 +, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 18 January 2011 04:42:38 William Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 16:23 -0800, Grant wrote: And for those with gigabytes of swap, keep in mind that the majority of processors can only access up to 32 x 2G swapfiles under

Re: [gentoo-user] disk error, where?

2011-01-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html looks also worth reading I had badblocks running over night, it told me that it found 33 bad blocks. Reallocated_Sector_Ct, Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable

Re: [gentoo-user] disk error, where?

2011-01-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.01.2011 10:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 18.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html looks also worth reading I had badblocks running over night, it told me that it found 33 bad blocks. Reallocated_Sector_Ct,

[gentoo-user] Re: Near freezes during large emerges

2011-01-18 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 03:39 on Monday 17 January 2011, William Kenworthy did opine thusly: On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 17:26 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Sun,

[gentoo-user] Re: Near freezes during large emerges

2011-01-18 Thread Nuno J. Silva
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 16:23 -0800, Grant wrote: I think the idea is never use swap if possible, but in a case where you don't have swap space or run out of swap space I think it's still possible to lose data. Isn't swap just an extension of

[gentoo-user] How to mask xfce 4.8?

2011-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
My last update bumped XFCE to 4.8, and I quickly learned that it's got some serious bugs. So, I need to roll back to whatever the prevous version was. How do I tell portage to not use 4.8? I tried adding this line in /etc/portage/package.mask: =xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.8 But that does

Re: [gentoo-user] disk error, where?

2011-01-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 10:45:37 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 18.01.2011 10:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 18.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html looks also worth reading I had badblocks running over

[gentoo-user] Re: Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Jason Weisberger jbdu...@gmail.com writes: On Jan 17, 2011 4:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Monday 17 January 2011 15:13:54 Jason Weisberger wrote: The update killed your free core :) a 'free core' that is probably broken in mysterious and hard to find

[gentoo-user] Re: How to mask xfce 4.8?

2011-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-01-18, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: My last update bumped XFCE to 4.8, and I quickly learned that it's got some serious bugs. So, I need to roll back to whatever the prevous version was. How do I tell portage to not use 4.8? I tried adding this line in

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: The bios microcode update is likely an enable setting rather than the bios actually updating the cpu.  You need to do some reading/asking of the manufacturers (not here) if it bothers you. Thanks for the links, I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to mask xfce 4.8?

2011-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:22:20 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: But that does nothing. Do I have to individually mask all 20+ components of XFCE? Yes, but it's not difficult: qlist -ICv xfce-base/ | sed 's/^/~/' /etc/portage/package.mask/xfce-48 -- Neil Bothwick mandelbug /man'del-buhg/

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: The bios microcode update is likely an enable setting rather than the bios actually updating the cpu.  You need to do some

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
btw, very related: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2011/01/17/microupdates-for-microcodes

[gentoo-user] BIOS flash safe with dosemu ?

2011-01-18 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, does anybody if it's safe to flash the BIOS using a DOS emulator like app-emulation/dosemu ? Thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] BIOS flash safe with dosemu ?

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody if it's safe to flash the BIOS using a DOS emulator like app-emulation/dosemu ? Thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. I don't think it will work (unless you are flashing the

Re: [gentoo-user] BIOS flash safe with dosemu ?

2011-01-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 17:41:52 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, does anybody if it's safe to flash the BIOS using a DOS emulator like app-emulation/dosemu ? Thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. it is not considered safe. Get an usb stick with freedos or systemrescue cd or use the

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: The bios microcode update is likely an enable setting

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 09:34:14 Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I got it to load by hand: 1) emerge microcode-ctl which also emerges microcode-data. Unfortunately microcode-data looks to be out of date. The ebuild for newer versions (including the latest 20101123) is in

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I got it to load by hand: 1) emerge microcode-ctl which also emerges microcode-data. Unfortunately microcode-data looks to be out

[gentoo-user] Re: How to mask xfce 4.8?

2011-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-01-18, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:22:20 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: But that does nothing. Do I have to individually mask all 20+ components of XFCE? Yes, but it's not difficult: qlist -ICv xfce-base/ | sed 's/^/~/'

[gentoo-user] Re: BIOS flash safe with dosemu ?

2011-01-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/18/2011 06:41 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, does anybody if it's safe to flash the BIOS using a DOS emulator like app-emulation/dosemu ? It won't work. The flashing tools are designed to be run in real mode. Dosemu runs in vm86 mode. Your best bet is to get a bootable *.iso from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X -config fail

2011-01-18 Thread doherty pete
i'm sorry,but chinese doc is different form english doc, i read chinese doc and loss some step. 2011/1/16 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com On Sunday 16 January 2011 13:53:14 doherty pete wrote: how can i confim i have evdev,if i donn't have ,i think i have to edite /etc/make.cof USE=-evdev

Re: [gentoo-user] BIOS flash safe with dosemu ?

2011-01-18 Thread pk
On 2011-01-18 17:41, Helmut Jarausch wrote: does anybody if it's safe to flash the BIOS using a DOS emulator like app-emulation/dosemu ? If you have a compatible board you could try flashrom. It's in portage and the homepage is: http://www.flashrom.org/Flashrom MfG Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] Near freezes during large emerges

2011-01-18 Thread kashani
On 1/17/2011 8:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: No swap contains pages from memory that have not been accessed for awhile so they can be stored elsewhere freeing ram for actual active pages. When they need to be accessed, they have to be swapped back in, and often something swapped back out to

[gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.37 : MCE problem

2011-01-18 Thread Philip Webb
I've just installed compiled gentoo-sources-2.6.37 am getting msgs in all my terminals Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Jan 18 14:32:38 2011 ... localhost kernel: [Hardware Error]: No human readable MCE decoding support on this CPU type. Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Jan 18

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I got it to load by hand: 1) emerge microcode-ctl which

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.37 : MCE problem

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I've just installed compiled  gentoo-sources-2.6.37 am getting msgs in all my terminals  Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Jan 18 14:32:38 2011 ... localhost kernel: [Hardware Error]: No human readable MCE decoding

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6.37 : MCE problem

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I've just installed compiled  gentoo-sources-2.6.37 am getting msgs in all my terminals  Message from syslogd@localhost at Tue Jan 18

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 20:42:05 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 18 January 2011 20:42:05 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] disk error, where?

2011-01-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.01.2011 16:30, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: yes, rerun badblocks in destructive write mode. Twice. The second time create a badblocks file and use it with mkfs - that way bad blocks should be skipped. Like in: # badblocks -p2 -wv /dev/sdb6 ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 21:13:49 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 18 January 2011 20:42:05 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Is the /etc/microcode.dat path a bug, now that firmware is typically placed in /lib/firmware? Shall I create a symlink or raise a bug report? -- Regards, Mick Mick, I don't think so. Seems to me Gentoo can

[gentoo-user] xorg 1.9

2011-01-18 Thread dan blum
I upgraded my xorg from 1.76 to 1.9 yesterday, including downloading the most recent drivers. When the new system did not work, I checked the xorg log (attached) and I thought that the problem was the mode setting. So in the kernel, I enabled the modesetting by default and now the card does not

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg 1.9

2011-01-18 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/19/2011 06:46 AM, dan blum wrote: I upgraded my xorg from 1.76 to 1.9 yesterday, including downloading the most recent drivers. When the new system did not work, I checked the xorg log (attached) and I thought that the problem was the mode setting. So in the kernel, I enabled the