Re: [gentoo-user] kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1 fails to install
Mick wrote:
I just installed python 7 on an x86 box. I switched to it and now
running revdep-rebuild which is asking for a number of packages to be
reinstalled. It fails on kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1:
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-- Gentoo configuration
Build type Gentoo
Install path/usr
Compiler flags:
C -O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx
-pipe -Wno-long-long -std=iso9899:1990 -Wundef -Wcast-align
-Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W
-Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -Wformat-security
-Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-common
C++ -O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx
-pipe -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -ansi -Wundef -Wcast-align
-Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wformat-security
-fno-exceptions -DQT_NO_EXCEPTIONS -fno-check-new -fno-common
-Woverloaded-virtual -fno-threadsafe-statics -fvisibility=hidden
-fvisibility-inlines-hidden
Linker flags:
Executable -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
Module -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--fatal-warnings
-Wl,--no-undefined -lc -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
Shared -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--fatal-warnings
-Wl,--no-undefined -lc -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to:
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1/work/pykde4-4.4.5_build
Source configured.
Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1/work/pykde4-4.4.5
...
Working in BUILD_DIR:
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1/work/pykde4-4.4.5_build
make -j1
Source compiled.
Test phase [not enabled]: kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1
Install pykde4-4.4.5-r1 into /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1/image/
category kde-base
Working in BUILD_DIR:
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1/work/pykde4-4.4.5_build
make -j1 DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1/image/ install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
emake failed
* ERROR: kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1 failed (install phase):
* died running make install, base_src_install
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_install
* environment, line 6807: Called kde4-meta_src_install
* environment, line 4240: Called kde4-base_src_install
* environment, line 3845: Called cmake-utils_src_install
* environment, line 1912: Called _execute_optionaly 'src_install'
* environment, line 861: Called enable_cmake-utils_src_install
* environment, line 2236: Called base_src_install
* environment, line 1563: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake DESTDIR=${D} $@ install || die died running make
install, $FUNCNAME;
===
Why is this happening?
Did you run python-updater? If so, you may want to look at this bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/265984
It is a different version but appears to be the same problem. It, at a
quick glance, appears sip needs to be re-emerged first.
Hope one of those helps. If not, maybe someone else will have better ideas.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] win key takes me from X to VT
2011/4/20 Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com: What X drivers you have in your make.conf? Kfir I only use the radeon driver for display and the evdev one for input. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
Re: [gentoo-user] I'm up, at long last!
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 01:30:00 +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote: I use evince for PDFs and Gqview for photos. Gqview is no longer in development. Try Geeqie, an active fork of Gqview. Thanks, I didn't know that. As is Gqview is just brilliant. Everything is fast via the keyboard shortcuts. I'lll try Geeqie as you suggested. Thanks again, Kfir -- Neil Bothwick The word 'Windows' is a word out of an old dialect of the Apaches. It means: 'White man staring through glass-screen onto an hourglass...')
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 03:42:13 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-) Hmm... Will be doing some timing-tests then Openoffice is a good one for that ;) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
Google Talk: pepoluan Y! messenger: pepoluan MSN / Live: pepol...@hotmail.com (do not send email here) Skype: pepoluan More on me: My LinkedIn Account My Facebook Account On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 16:25, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 03:42:13 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-) Hmm... Will be doing some timing-tests then Openoffice is a good one for that ;) Not LibreOffice? :-) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 16:49:26 Pandu Poluan wrote: Google Talk:pepoluan Y! messenger: pepoluan MSN / Live: pepol...@hotmail.com (do not send email here) Skype:pepoluan More on me: My LinkedIn Account My Facebook Account Wouldn't this fit better at the bottom as a signature? And the links don't work On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 16:25, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 03:42:13 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-) Hmm... Will be doing some timing-tests then Openoffice is a good one for that ;) Not LibreOffice? :-) Not switched yet on the test-system and already got the sources downloaded... To test honestly, I need a long build to be able to see a real difference -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] win key takes me from X to VT
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:27:03AM +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: El día 18 de abril de 2011 00:01, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com escribió: Try to reset all shortcuts with: setxkbmap -option It doesn't change anything. The problem starts in kdm, before loging in, so it's nothing specific to a given user account. Oh, I forgot, it is nothing specific to kdm either. What I meant above is that it happens since I enter X. Or rather, since this is the default behavior in the console, we could more correctly say that it *continues* happening when I enter X, where it should not happen. I tested the lxde login manager and it has the same problem. It seems like X didn't switch the keyboard to raw mode or something like this... The win key on linux console swithes to a previou vt (don't know if it is intentional, or just a side effect of the kernel not correctly handling it) Sometimes, when an app freezes the whole X (usually when it grabs the keyboard and freezes) I have to use the magic sysrq keys to unraw the keyboard, which means I can that use alt-fX to swtich to text VTs, kill the app and return to X... however from that moment on until I restart X, the keyboard is not in raw mode and alt-fX and also the winkey switch consoles (like you describe) yoyo
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
on 04/19/2011 03:40 PM Joost Roeleveld wrote the following: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 09:04:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:57:07 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Incidentally, my cron script that runs emerge --sync follows it with emerge-uDNf world, so the files are already in $DISTDIR when I want to update. Can you post the script? My guess is that the script would be something like the following: = #!/bin/sh # emerge --sync emerge -uDNf world = That's the gist of it, although it also emails the output from emerge -pvDN world, so I can see what needs to be done. It runs a few other bits, like glsa-check. Like the following? = #!/bin/sh # /bin/mkdir /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync /usr/bin/layman -S /usr/bin/eix-sync /usr/bin/glsa-check -d $(/usr/bin/glsa-check -t all) /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync/portage_sync_glsa.log /bin/mail -e -s Portage Sync [GLSA-log] memyselfa...@example.org /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync/portage_sync_glsa.log /bin/rm /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync/portage_sync_glsa.log /usr/bin/emerge -pvauD --newuse world /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync/portage_sync_emerge.log /bin/mail -e -s Portage Sync [EMERGE-list] memyselfa...@example.org /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync/portage_sync_emerge.log /bin/rm /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync/portage_sync_emerge.log /bin/rmdir /tmp/ABBAABBA_portage_sync = In the above script, I put an empty line between each command for readability. This is what I run on my system. -- Joost Joost, Thanks! :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 11:25:27 Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 03:42:13 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-) Hmm... Will be doing some timing-tests then Openoffice is a good one for that ;) Ok, just done the tests. using tmpfs for /var/tmp/portage is quicker, but not by much. Without TMPFS: # time emerge -v openoffice real 32m44.742s user 20m18.320s sys 5m38.000s With TMPFS: # mount -onoatime,size=7G -ttmpfs none /var/tmp/portage # time emerge -v openoffice real 31m30.835s user 20m3.510s sys 5m38.030s Specification of this machine: 12GB RAM Quad Core Xeon W3565 @ 3.2Ghz with HT enabled There are 2 drives in stripe-mode (software RAID-0) which does speed up the I/O a lot. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:37 on Wednesday 20 April 2011, Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 11:25:27 Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 03:42:13 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-) Hmm... Will be doing some timing-tests then Openoffice is a good one for that ;) Ok, just done the tests. using tmpfs for /var/tmp/portage is quicker, but not by much. Without TMPFS: # time emerge -v openoffice real 32m44.742s user 20m18.320s sys 5m38.000s With TMPFS: # mount -onoatime,size=7G -ttmpfs none /var/tmp/portage # time emerge -v openoffice real 31m30.835s user 20m3.510s sys 5m38.030s Specification of this machine: 12GB RAM Quad Core Xeon W3565 @ 3.2Ghz with HT enabled There are 2 drives in stripe-mode (software RAID-0) which does speed up the I/O a lot. I'd say the entirety of /var/tmp/portage for your OOo build fits into your ram disk cache so very little actual disk IO is happening. I also noticed before switching to libreoffice-bin that the ooo build was largely cpu-bound anyway (disk light flashed seldom) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:07:46 +0300, Thanasis wrote:
That's the gist of it, although it also emails the output from emerge
-pvDN world, so I can see what needs to be done. It runs a few other
bits, like glsa-check.
Neil, do you mind posting it (after changing any private bits to
generic)?
Here it is, as an attachment too to avoid screwing up the lines
#!/bin/bash
export PORTAGE_ECLASS_WARNING_ENABLE=0
WORLD_MERGE=emerge --update --deep --reinstall changed-use --with-bdeps y
--verbose @system @world
[[ -d /etc/portage/presync.d ]] for s in /etc/portage/presync.d/*[!~]; do
$s || exit
done
SYNCED=false
if [[ ! -f /etc/portage/noautosync ]] ! mount | grep -q ' /usr/portage type
nfs '; then
SYNCED=
for i in {0..12}; do
echo $(date): syncing portage
emerge --sync SYNCED=true break
sleep 5m
done
fi
if [[ ${SYNCED} ]]; then
if [[ ${SYNCED} == true ]]; then
echo Portage synced 12
else
echo Portage not synced 12
fi
TEMPFILE=$(mktemp)
${WORLD_MERGE} --changelog --pretend |${TEMPFILE}
Mail -s $(hostname): Updated packages neil ${TEMPFILE}
rm -f ${TEMPFILE}
else
echo Failure syncing portage 2
fi
GLSAs=$(glsa-check --test all 2/dev/null)
if [[ -n ${GLSAs} ]]; then
for GLSA in ${GLSAs}; do
glsa-check --dump ${GLSA} | grep -B88 Unaffected
echo -e \n
done | Mail -s GLSA warnings for $(hostname) neil
fi
if [[ -x $(which eix-update 2/dev/null) ]]; then
eix-update --quiet
[[ -f /etc/portage/no-eix-remote ]] || LOCAL_LAYMAN=/mnt/portage/layman
eix-remote -q update
fi
for i in /etc/portage/postupdate.d/*[!~]; do
[[ $i == ${i/\~} ]] [[ -x $i ]] $i
done
exit 0
--
Neil Bothwick
Biology is the only science in which multiplication means the same thing
as division.
emerge-update
Description: Binary data
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Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 15:16:40 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:37 on Wednesday 20 April 2011, Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 11:25:27 Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 03:42:13 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 17:54:02 Dale wrote: Kfir Lavi wrote: I do a lot of compiling on my laptop using Catalyst for embedded. I upgraded my RAM to 8GB (2x4GB = 90$ ebay). I mount /var/tmp as tmpfs. Thats how I keep my SSD ;) Kfir -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I got 16Gbs in my rig and I mounted portages work directory on tmpfs, it was actually slower. That is likely a good idea to keep from wearing out the SSD but it doesn't seem to make anything compile faster. Strange, it actually got faster on mine when doing that. Did you mount with noatime? :) -- Joost Yep. It actually took a few seconds longer compiling in memory. I thought that was weird to tho. It doesn't make much sense to me. Dale :-) :-) Hmm... Will be doing some timing-tests then Openoffice is a good one for that ;) Ok, just done the tests. using tmpfs for /var/tmp/portage is quicker, but not by much. Without TMPFS: # time emerge -v openoffice real 32m44.742s user 20m18.320s sys 5m38.000s With TMPFS: # mount -onoatime,size=7G -ttmpfs none /var/tmp/portage # time emerge -v openoffice real 31m30.835s user 20m3.510s sys 5m38.030s Specification of this machine: 12GB RAM Quad Core Xeon W3565 @ 3.2Ghz with HT enabled There are 2 drives in stripe-mode (software RAID-0) which does speed up the I/O a lot. I'd say the entirety of /var/tmp/portage for your OOo build fits into your ram disk cache so very little actual disk IO is happening. I also noticed before switching to libreoffice-bin that the ooo build was largely cpu-bound anyway (disk light flashed seldom) Alan, I would love to do a better test then this. Reason I took Openoffice is because it's known to be a large build (requires a lot of diskspace) and takes a long time. If you know which other ebuilds might make for a better test, I will be happy to redo the test with those. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LibreOffice + GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed
On 19 April 2011 13:38, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/17/2011 05:32 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: On 17 April 2011 16:14, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/17/2011 11:38 AM, Carlos Sura wrote: But, trying as a normal user, isn't working and I dont have any clue about what is making this problem, there is no log or error to trace. So, I've unistalled libreoffice, and installed again, but... Isn't working yet... I'm not really sure what's this problem, since I don't have any clue or any idea to trace this error. Try strace this way (as normal user): $strace -f -o outputfile /usr/bin/libreoffice The -f flag allows strace to follow as the shell-script starts the real binary executable. Look through 'outputfile' for messages that look fatal :) Hello Walt, thank you for your answer This is the paste: http://tinypaste.com/dde0e1 The trace clearly shows a segfault, which is what you would expect given how the program behaves -- but I can't tell what's causing it. Maybe someone else can tell us. I can suggest a few things to check, though. I'd try moving or deleting your ~/.libreoffice directory to see if something in there is corrupted. If LO wants to import old settings from OO try saying no. I notice you're using iced-tea for java. Have you used java-config-2 to make sure it's all set up correctly? Note that the java settings in LO need to be edited by hand if you change java versions :(Dumb, but doesn't cause a segfault for me.) Are you running python-3 instead of python-2? Do you get the same segfault by running /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin directly? Good idea to create a new (ordinary) user account so you can try failing programs with a completely fresh environment -- not at all the same as running something as root, of course, and very safe if you use a strong password for the new user. Out of ideas for the moment. Hello Walt, thank you for your answer, after several days without libreoffice working, you told me the answer, I'd try deleting your ~/.libreoffice directory, after that, LibreOffice was working fine again. Thank you... Also it would be nice to know the cause of this problem. Regards -- Carlos Sura.-
[gentoo-user] You have no world file
Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Thanks guys, D
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 04:31:38 Harry Putnam wrote: So, cutting to the chase; can anyone recommend from actual use, a home lan router that has gigabit lan ports and very configurable/ informative logging options? Have you gone through the documentation to see if there isn't a more verbose option for the logs? Yes Do you get the same condensed format when you capture the logs in your LAN syslog server? I did not try that, but is there some reason to expect a difference? I have channeled logs to Syslog running on gentoo with at least 2 different routers in the past and saw no difference in the logs. Do you notice a difference?
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
Dan Cowsill writes: I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Stupid question maybe, but does /var/lib/portage/world exist? If not, emerge -uDNav world would not complain and do a system update only. Does eix -Iu show lots of packages you thought a wold update should have updated? In case you lost the file, the regenworld script is supposed to restore it. But I don't know how well this works. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well. I'm at a loss!
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org writes: Harry wrote: So, cutting to the chase; can anyone recommend from actual use, a home lan router that has gigabit lan ports and very configurable/ informative logging options? Joost replied: Not familiar with specific types, but I've had best results with the routers from Zyxel. The one I used to use (ADSL) would provide a lot of information via SNMP and other logging-options. Also, this one had no problem with multiple (1000+) simultaneous connections. Which is something other brands suffer from regularly. They appear to have only 2 wired routers: P-335Plus and P-334 And only 1 or 2 wireless with gigabit. The top of the line NBG-460N looks promising but hard to find a price on... I found it listed as low as $128, so may be a good choice.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org writes: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 04:31:38 Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not interested in running an old linux or openbsd, machine as router. Having a silent cool router the size and weight of a medium book is too appealing. I'm gazing at an Atom box sitting on my window-sill that would be ideal. It's silent and it has gigabit LAN connections. It's 8 square by 1 3/8. Have a look at www.aleutia.com. Nice, only you can't get a price there for love nor money. Clicking on any of the `products' and then the Buy now link doesn't ever show any price but `0'. Maybe I should order a dozen or so...
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage For the sake of brevity, here's emerge --info Portage 2.1.9.42 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.11.3-r0, 2.6.36-gentoo-r8 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.36-gentoo-r8-i686-Pentium-R-_Dual-Core_CPU_E5200_@ _2.50GHz-with-gentoo-1.12.14 Timestamp of tree: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:00:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9 dev-lang/python: 2.6.6-r2, 2.7.1-r1, 3.1.3-r1 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r9 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.1-r2 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1 sys-apps/sandbox:2.4 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.65-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.5 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10 sys-devel/make: 3.81-r2 sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.36.1 virtual/os-headers: 0 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -@EULA PUEL CBUILD=i486-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /var/bind CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache distlocks fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch FFLAGS= GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo; LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed LINGUAS=en PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/ PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise /usr/local/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=acl apache2 berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cxx dri fortran gdbm gpm iconv jpeg ldap modules mudflap ncurses nfsv3 nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl php png pppd python readline session ssl sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xml xorg zlib ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic auth_digest authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation proxy proxy_ajp proxy_balancer proxy_connect proxy_http rewrite setenvif so speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias CAMERAS=ptp2 COLLECTD_PLUGINS=df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog ELIBC=glibc GPSD_PROTOCOLS=ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=en PHP_TARGETS=php5-3 RUBY_TARGETS=ruby18 USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev glint intel mach64 mga neomagic nouveau nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa via vmware dummy v4l XTABLES_ADDONS=quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:15:12 -0700 Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well. I'm at a loss! Have you ever looked at the size world or maybe even into it?
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Daniel Wagener st...@gmx.net wrote: Have you ever looked at the size world or maybe even into it? World file contains a list of the packages I've installed. Nothing new there. It's about 1.5kb in size.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Consider OpenWRT. You can run it on something like the Netgear WNR2000, the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH, or something even cheaper if you don't need wifi. I don't need wifi, but of course OpenWRT won't run on the cisco But that WZR-HP-G300NH is looking promising. Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: [...] I have WZR-HP-G300NH (running DD-WRT), if you don't plan on using wifi it would be great. The wifi is really unstable and I couldn't recommend this device if you're a heavy wifi user, but the wired portion works great, the device itself is by far the fastest I've ever owned, and it has a USB port so you can attach external storage in case you want to use it as a server, too. Can you make any comment about the logging capabilities? W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: [...] I have this device and am using Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std - its been totally stable since I dumped the buffalo firmware. My son plays windoze online games and I often move large files around as well as stream mythtv across it - no problems at all. Until I started powering the systems down at night (power charges went up :) it would stay up for over a month at a time and it was never a crash as to why it was restarted - usually power, or reconfiguration. Maybe you can make some comment about logging capablities? Maybe one or both of you might be willing to post a log sample?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
* Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com [110420 13:51]: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Consider OpenWRT. You can run it on something like the Netgear WNR2000, the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH, or something even cheaper if you don't need wifi. I don't need wifi, but of course OpenWRT won't run on the cisco But that WZR-HP-G300NH is looking promising. I've just purchased one and it arrived today and I installed DD-WRT and then upgraded to OpenWRT. It's working well but obviously I've only just started working with it. Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: [...] I have WZR-HP-G300NH (running DD-WRT), if you don't plan on using wifi it would be great. The wifi is really unstable and I couldn't recommend this device if you're a heavy wifi user, but the wired portion works great, the device itself is by far the fastest I've ever owned, and it has a USB port so you can attach external storage in case you want to use it as a server, too. Can you make any comment about the logging capabilities? OpenWRT is running the BusyBox syslogd by default. I doubt it would take much to build a syslog-ng (or whatever other logger you prefer) if there isn't already a package for it. Oh, I see that there already are syslog-ng (1.6.12-2) and syslog-ng3 (3.0.5-1) packages You have iptables support so you can do pretty much anything you like with regards to logging. Todd W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: [...] I have this device and am using Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std - its been totally stable since I dumped the buffalo firmware. My son plays windoze online games and I often move large files around as well as stream mythtv across it - no problems at all. Until I started powering the systems down at night (power charges went up :) it would stay up for over a month at a time and it was never a crash as to why it was restarted - usually power, or reconfiguration. Maybe you can make some comment about logging capablities? Maybe one or both of you might be willing to post a log sample?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Maybe you can make some comment about logging capablities? Maybe one or both of you might be willing to post a log sample? Ultimately it's just a linux box, you can run syslogd and log kernel/firewall/etc to a local or remote syslog. Since the device itself has no built-in storage, logging is disabled by default (in DD-WRT anyway). I've never enabled the logging, but I'll do it right now to see how it looks. In DD-WRT, you can enable syslogd (either to write local to /var/log/messages or to a remote machine), and then in the firewall section you can set the logging level (low/medium/high) and choose whether to log dropped/accepted/rejected. I just enabled high logging with everything enabled, and I get a flood of this kind of message in /var/log/messages: Apr 20 14:41:08 ddwrt kern.warn kernel: [2814955.71] DROP IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:1b:54:c9:4b:d9:08:00 SRC=10.166.128.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=325 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=34279 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=305 Apr 20 14:41:08 ddwrt kern.warn kernel: [2814956.13] DROP IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:1b:54:c9:4b:d9:08:00 SRC=10.166.128.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=325 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=34287 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=305 Apr 20 14:41:10 ddwrt kern.warn kernel: [2814957.77] DROP IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:1b:54:c9:4b:d9:08:00 SRC=172.16.129.29 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=365 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=34300 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=345 So it looks like ordinary linux firewall logging... I'm sure you can customize it if you want to, just as you would on a normal machine. Hope that helps :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Harry Putnam wrote: Peter Humphreype...@humphrey.ukfsn.org writes: On Tuesday 19 April 2011 04:31:38 Harry Putnam wrote: I'm not interested in running an old linux or openbsd, machine as router. Having a silent cool router the size and weight of a medium book is too appealing. I'm gazing at an Atom box sitting on my window-sill that would be ideal. It's silent and it has gigabit LAN connections. It's 8 square by 1 3/8. Have a look at www.aleutia.com. Nice, only you can't get a price there for love nor money. Clicking on any of the `products' and then the Buy now link doesn't ever show any price but `0'. Maybe I should order a dozen or so... This may give you a idea. I got this off their site, after selecting a configuration for one: *Product* *Quantity* *Price* *Amount* T1 Fanless PC with 2GB RAM 199.00 199.00 250GB Western Digital Hard Drive (5400RPM, 8MB Cache) 45.00 45.00 3) Select WLAN 0.000.00 No Serial Ports 0.000.00 No Operating System 0.000.00 Standard build test ships 6 days after order is placed0.000.00 1 Year Standard Return to Base Warranty - Free 0.000.00 *All prices are in British Pounds* *Subtotal* 244.00 *Delivery* 0.00 *TOTAL* 244.00 I guess one could use Froogle if you can't buy it across the pond. Cheap little thing tho. o_O Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: I have this device and am using Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std - its been totally stable since I dumped the buffalo firmware. My son plays windoze online games and I often move large files around as well as stream mythtv across it - no problems at all. Until I started powering the systems down at night (power charges went up :) it would stay up for over a month at a time and it was never a crash as to why it was restarted - usually power, or reconfiguration. Sorry to bug you again after already asking about logs, but I'm having trouble really telling much about the system at dd-wrt.com/wiki. Can you set it up so that logs are mailed rather than sent to syslog?
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net writes: OpenWRT is running the BusyBox syslogd by default. I doubt it would take much to build a syslog-ng (or whatever other logger you prefer) if there isn't already a package for it. Oh, I see that there already are syslog-ng (1.6.12-2) and syslog-ng3 (3.0.5-1) packages You have iptables support so you can do pretty much anything you like with regards to logging. Ahh, thanks. I just posted again about logging and mentioned I couldn't tell much about it at the dd-wrt wiki. However, now I see a lot more info at the dd-wrt wiki than I saw at first too er... I take it all back. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Logging_with_DD-WRT
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On 19/4/2011, at 4:31am, Harry Putnam wrote: ... So, cutting to the chase; can anyone recommend from actual use, a home lan router that has gigabit lan ports and very configurable/ informative logging options? ps - I'm not interested in running an old linux or openbsd, machine as router. Having a silent cool router the size and weight of a medium book is too appealing. Consider OpenWRT. You can run it on something like the Netgear WNR2000, the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH, or something even cheaper if you don't need wifi. All good, except then you have to muck around with iptables. I once knew a bit about that when it first replaced ipchains in linux distros... thats' been yrs ago, and I've completely forgotten whatever I may have learned back then. I ended up switching to PF filter on OpenBSD for firewall/router... and have now forgotten all about that too. Are you using openWRT on a router yourself? If so, is there a basic iptables script rigged up for numbskulls to be able to add and subtract from it readily? I actually wrote such a thing for myself way back when. (The part for numbskulls, not iptables) but would not look forward to trying to remaster what ever I need to know about iptables to use openWRT.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: Apr 20 14:41:08 ddwrt kern.warn kernel: [2814955.71] DROP IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:1b:54:c9:4b:d9:08:00 SRC=10.166.128.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=325 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=34279 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=305 Apr 20 14:41:08 ddwrt kern.warn kernel: [2814956.13] DROP IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:1b:54:c9:4b:d9:08:00 SRC=10.166.128.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=325 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=34287 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=305 Apr 20 14:41:10 ddwrt kern.warn kernel: [2814957.77] DROP IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:1b:54:c9:4b:d9:08:00 SRC=172.16.129.29 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=365 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=34300 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=345 So it looks like ordinary linux firewall logging... I'm sure you can customize it if you want to, just as you would on a normal machine. Hope that helps :) Yes, thanks for taking the trouble... When I asked that, I hadn't realized that both dd-wrt and openWRT were actually tiny linux OS. I've reading more about them since. It sounds from your report that dd-wrt has some kind of basic firewall script in place by default. Whereas openWRT sounds like you may need to role your own iptables script right off the bat. at least judging from a few posts I've now read from their mailing list where people seem to be asking the kinds of iptables questions you might find on that list..
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: [...] I guess one could use Froogle if you can't buy it across the pond. Cheap little thing tho. o_O What is the cpu? I couldn't tell if you were joking about cheap... ... so is the final price about $400 US?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Harry Putnam wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com writes: [...] I guess one could use Froogle if you can't buy it across the pond. Cheap little thing tho. o_O What is the cpu? Intel Atom 1.6GHz CPU I couldn't tell if you were joking about cheap... ... so is the final price about $400 US? I don't really know. I would assume as I had it configured, that was the price. That would sort of be bare bones but for a router, you most likely don't need anything fancy, unless you are routing some serious traffic. I just picked the one I thought was small and cute. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:41 on Wednesday 20 April 2011, Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: Alan, I would love to do a better test then this. Reason I took Openoffice is because it's known to be a large build (requires a lot of diskspace) and takes a long time. If you know which other ebuilds might make for a better test, I will be happy to redo the test with those. Completely off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that extensively uses disk space while compiling. There is the configure step, and that hits the disk pretty hard, mostly reads. Building all of KDE would fit the bill for disk IO methinks. However, you will also hit that infernal disk cache issue and render the test useless (it's all in RAM anyway after the first read!). So you would have to disable that. I don't know how to disable disk caching :-( Maybe you can't, the kernel is clearly designed to use the feature if it can at all. Maybe there's a knob in /proc you can twiddle. Any kernel knob experts around? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Whereas openWRT sounds like you may need to role your own iptables script right off the bat. at least judging from a few posts I've now read from their mailing list where people seem to be asking the kinds of iptables questions you might find on that list.. Right, OpenWRT is more of a do-it-yourself distro, with a package manager, you install what you want to use and configure it yourself. DD-WRT is more of the ubuntu-style router OS, it comes with a bunch of services pre-installed and pre-configured, with a pretty GUI, and you only have to enable or disable them and the defaults are set up for your hardware already. Under the surface, both are very similar, in fact I read that new versions of DD-WRT are going to be developed on top of OpenWRT. Both can be configured via telnet/ssh or via a web GUI. I think that if someone can handle Gentoo, they can definitely handle OpenWRT. I have 3 Buffalo routers (all different models) and I'm using DD-WRT on 2 of them and OpenWRT on the other, though I'm not doing anything particularly complicated on any of them.
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
Thanks! Can you add some comments, like what the directories presync.d
and postupdate.d are supposed to be ... as I don't have those.
I have postsync.d and don't know what is it about ... It contains a file
named q-reinitialize :
# cat /etc/portage/postsync.d/q-reinitialize
#!/bin/sh
[ -x /usr/bin/q ] /usr/bin/q -r ${PORTAGE_QUIET:+-q}
:
#
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 21:06:09 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:41 on Wednesday 20 April 2011, Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: Alan, I would love to do a better test then this. Reason I took Openoffice is because it's known to be a large build (requires a lot of diskspace) and takes a long time. If you know which other ebuilds might make for a better test, I will be happy to redo the test with those. Completely off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that extensively uses disk space while compiling. There is the configure step, and that hits the disk pretty hard, mostly reads. Building all of KDE would fit the bill for disk IO methinks. However, you will also hit that infernal disk cache issue and render the test useless (it's all in RAM anyway after the first read!). So you would have to disable that. I don't know how to disable disk caching :-( Maybe you can't, the kernel is clearly designed to use the feature if it can at all. Maybe there's a knob in /proc you can twiddle. Any kernel knob experts around? No expert here of course, but as long as we are talking about disk buffers hdparm used to be able to enable/disable read aheads (A1/A0). Not sure if sdparm does the same for SATA drives, or indeed if it contains any such option. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:23:01 +0300, Thanasis wrote: Thanks! Can you add some comments, like what the directories presync.d and postupdate.d are supposed to be ... as I don't have those. I have postsync.d and don't know what is it about ... It contains a file named q-reinitialize : Scripts/programs in postsync.d are executed by portage after a sync. The other two are ones I added, before portage had postsync support, to run anything I wanted before and after a sync. The only thing used them for now is to turn rsyncd off and on on my server, to prevent other machines syncing from it while its portage tree is being updated. BTW - I read the list, no need to send me an extra copy of the mail directly. -- Neil Bothwick Hello, this is an extension to the famous signature virus, called spymail. Could you please copy me into your signature and send back what you were doing last night between 10pm and 3am? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 20:50:51 Dale wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: What is the cpu? Intel Atom 1.6GHz CPU N270. I couldn't tell if you were joking about cheap... ... so is the final price about $400 US? I don't really know. I would assume as I had it configured, that was the price. That would sort of be bare bones but for a router, you most likely don't need anything fancy, unless you are routing some serious traffic. That's just about identical to the one I have. For a router you'd need to choose a different model with more Ethernet ports. I just picked the one I thought was small and cute. lol Oh, it is. Lovely. Now all I need to do is to find out what's causing the disk to spin up every few seconds. I suspect smartd. -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com writes: [...] I guess one could use Froogle if you can't buy it across the pond. Cheap little thing tho. o_O What is the cpu? Intel Atom 1.6GHz CPU I couldn't tell if you were joking about cheap... ... so is the final price about $400 US? I don't really know. I would assume as I had it configured, that was the price. That would sort of be bare bones but for a router, you most likely don't need anything fancy, unless you are routing some serious traffic. I just picked the one I thought was small and cute. lol Your previous post showed this as total. *All prices are in British Pounds* *Subtotal* 244.00 *Delivery* 0.00 *TOTAL* 244.00 244 british pounds is just a hair under $400 So do you think $400 is pretty cheap for an home lan router?
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Whereas openWRT sounds like you may need to role your own iptables script right off the bat. at least judging from a few posts I've now read from their mailing list where people seem to be asking the kinds of iptables questions you might find on that list.. Right, OpenWRT is more of a do-it-yourself distro, with a package manager, you install what you want to use and configure it yourself. DD-WRT is more of the ubuntu-style router OS, it comes with a bunch of services pre-installed and pre-configured, with a pretty GUI, and you only have to enable or disable them and the defaults are set up for your hardware already. Under the surface, both are very similar, in fact I read that new versions of DD-WRT are going to be developed on top of OpenWRT. Both can be configured via telnet/ssh or via a web GUI. I think that if someone can handle Gentoo, they can definitely handle OpenWRT. What I see is somewhat difficult is learning enough iptables to be competent with it. As I recall from yrs ago it is not that easy to keep from shooting yourself in the foot and ending up hacked or such with iptables. . . . . . I have 3 Buffalo routers (all different models) and I'm using DD-WRT on 2 of them and OpenWRT on the other, though I'm not doing anything particularly complicated on any of them. What I have to do is probably a lot simpler than what you are doing with any of them. Just a home lan router/firewall. But if I had to learn iptables, that throws `simple' right out the door. Are you running iptables on any of them? Does the one using openWRT have a basic firewall in place and some wrapper around iptables to make the creation of rules a bit easier.?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
Harry Putnam wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com writes: [...] I guess one could use Froogle if you can't buy it across the pond. Cheap little thing tho. o_O What is the cpu? Intel Atom 1.6GHz CPU I couldn't tell if you were joking about cheap... ... so is the final price about $400 US? I don't really know. I would assume as I had it configured, that was the price. That would sort of be bare bones but for a router, you most likely don't need anything fancy, unless you are routing some serious traffic. I just picked the one I thought was small and cute. lol Your previous post showed this as total. *All prices are in British Pounds* *Subtotal* 244.00 *Delivery* 0.00 *TOTAL* 244.00 244 british pounds is just a hair under $400 So do you think $400 is pretty cheap for an home lan router? Well, I have no idea what the conversion from British Pounds to US dollars would be. I assume you are correct. I was thinking it was the other way around tho. That said, since he wants something more than a LinkSys router, it's going to cost something. Me, I got me a $10.00 refurbed LinkSys and called it a day. Thing is, I don't need anything fast or expensive. I did want something that was cheap on power tho. Trying to cut back a bit on the old watt meter. I already got two freezers running here. One could build a bare bones rig and just use that. I'm not sure it would be much cheaper tho. May use more power from the wall too. That is why I picked the fanless version. I figured if it needed no fans, it can't pull to much power. It also seemed to have lots of CPU speed for a router. $400.00 for a router . . . that better be one HECK of a router. Maybe wash dishes or something too. o_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo guest vm - vlan support kills eth0
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.comwrote: If i enable 802.1q kernel support in a gentoo vmware guest and reboot (even as a module which is not loaded), eth0 is no longer available. (ifconfig -a shows nothing). Is this expected? What is the driver you use for eth0? I have the following loaded; pcnet3221736 0 vmxnet 12474 0
[gentoo-user] ethtool on vlan interfaces
If i run ethtool on a vlan interface, does it show layer 1 or layer 2 link? IIRC ciscos will report line proto down if layer 1 is up but layer 2/vlan is down. How is the status of layer 2 determined?
[gentoo-user] SMB/CIFS or NFS?
Okay, I'm combining the portage distfiles dir into a storage server. Problem: the storage server is Windows 2003. Question: should I mount the distfile dir using SMB/CIFS or NFS? Is there any performance and/or complexity issues? Thanks in advance. Rgds, -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] SMB/CIFS or NFS?
On 04/20/2011 06:21 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Okay, I'm combining the portage distfiles dir into a storage server. Problem: the storage server is Windows 2003. Question: should I mount the distfile dir using SMB/CIFS or NFS? Is there any performance and/or complexity issues? Thanks in advance. Rgds, I have noticed better performance in straight copies from NFS on my Windows SBS 2003, but I have had some trouble getting UIDs to map correctly on the linux end. Admittedly, though, I haven't gone to a great deal of effort to map every Windows user to a UID. I haven't tested rsync, but cp did go much more quickly on the files I was looking at (few, 2GB files). -Andy
[gentoo-user] Cannot remove myself from bugzilla CC
I want to remove myself from the CC list of a bugzilla item, but I can't. Bugzilla doesn't seem to offer this, since I'm the reporter of the item. Is there really no way?
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On 04/20/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Cowsill wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com mailto:mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well. I'm at a loss! You can try introducing trolls to fight the gremlins. If the smell gets too strong, orcs will keep the trolls in check. Gold starts disappearing? Dragons should do the trick. When you run out of princesses... try memtest.
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:19, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 04/20/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Cowsill wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com mailto:mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well. I'm at a loss! You can try introducing trolls to fight the gremlins. If the smell gets too strong, orcs will keep the trolls in check. Gold starts disappearing? Dragons should do the trick. When you run out of princesses... try memtest. ROFL Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 06:35, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Your previous post showed this as total. *All prices are in British Pounds* *Subtotal* 244.00 *Delivery* 0.00 *TOTAL* 244.00 244 british pounds is just a hair under $400 So do you think $400 is pretty cheap for an home lan router? Well, I have no idea what the conversion from British Pounds to US dollars would be. I assume you are correct. I was thinking it was the other way around tho. That said, since he wants something more than a LinkSys router, it's going to cost something. Me, I got me a $10.00 refurbed LinkSys and called it a day. Thing is, I don't need anything fast or expensive. I did want something that was cheap on power tho. Trying to cut back a bit on the old watt meter. I already got two freezers running here. One could build a bare bones rig and just use that. I'm not sure it would be much cheaper tho. May use more power from the wall too. That is why I picked the fanless version. I figured if it needed no fans, it can't pull to much power. It also seemed to have lots of CPU speed for a router. $400.00 for a router . . . that better be one HECK of a router. Maybe wash dishes or something too. o_O Dale :-) :-) Meh. With $400, you can buy 5 (five!) of those Mikrotik RB750G @ $70 http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=90 (Excl. SH, of course) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 17:24, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Wednesday 20 April 2011 16:49:26 Pandu Poluan wrote: Google Talk: pepoluan Y! messenger: pepoluan MSN / Live: pepol...@hotmail.com (do not send email here) Skype: pepoluan More on me: My LinkedIn Account My Facebook Account Wouldn't this fit better at the bottom as a signature? I had a stupid moment . My full sig is like below, and it's originally in HTML, so the links would've worked. Whenever I post to Gentoo-User, I change to plaintext, crop the sig to only the top 3 lines (excluding the --), and delete the rest. Yesterday I clicked Send a moment too soon... I've finally figured out why Gmail insisted on putting my sig above the quote, and have now configured it to put the sig under the quote. In the future, you won't see lines 4 ~ 8 of my sig (barring any more stupid moments, of course...) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com Google Talk: pepoluan Y! messenger: pepoluan MSN / Live: pepol...@hotmail.com (do not send email here) Skype: pepoluan More on me: My LinkedIn Account My Facebook Account
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT router advice] a router capable of detailed logs
On Wednesday 20 April 2011 16:56:15 Harry Putnam wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Do you get the same condensed format when you capture the logs in your LAN syslog server? I did not try that, but is there some reason to expect a difference? No, it shouldn't - after all it is the same log file that you are accessing, but wasn't sure if the gui condensed what's reported to fit it in the screen. I have channeled logs to Syslog running on gentoo with at least 2 different routers in the past and saw no difference in the logs. Do you notice a difference? I do not have a Cisco router to try it just now, but could you have a look at how your access lists are defined? Extended ACLs *should* show ports, as long as ports are used in permit/deny statements and asked to be logged; e.g. access-list 102 permit tcp host 10.10.10.2 eq 0 any eq 0 log of course IOS versions may change things, but that's how I remember it worked. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
