Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 05:50:14 Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:13:41PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote On Wednesday 25 May 2011 08:46:48 Indi wrote: and have you ever heard of 'code reuse' or 'modularity'? It seems - no. Because KDE itself might be huge. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/5/26 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: PS.  I'm not sure that Linus is using Gnome.  I recall him bitching that the Gnome design approach (which unfortunately KDE imitated) was not the right direction to evolve linux in. Offtopic, but... He ditched gnome, then, a couple of years ago, he

[gentoo-user] FVWM Desktop scrolling not working with KDE open dialog box

2011-05-26 Thread Jake Moe
I'm having a weird issue I'm hoping someone here can help with. I've asked on the FVWM mailing list, but they can't reproduce with my config, so I'm hoping someone here with experience with the KDE/QT side of things might be able to offer a suggestion. I've configured FVWM with a single 3x3

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 05:49:21 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 05/25/2011 04:46 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Should these have been eliminated or do I need to do it by hand or something else still needs it? I

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:50 on Thursday 26 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On Thursday 26 May 2011 05:49:21 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 05/25/2011 04:46 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Should these

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 11:30:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:50 on Thursday 26 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On Thursday 26 May 2011 05:49:21 Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 05/25/2011 04:46 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Valmor de

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:00:02AM +0200, Walter Dnes wrote: I don't know how good exmap is, but my personal experience is quite different. Between Fall 1999 and Summer 2007 I had a Dell Dimension with a 450 mhz PIII and 128 megs of *SYSTEM RAM* (no not the video card). It was actually

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:40:54AM -0400, Indi wrote: Two 800MB floppies 800 KB, sorry. Can't even think that small anymore... ;) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤

[gentoo-user] file collisions

2011-05-26 Thread Allan Gottlieb
emerge complains that icu (details below) will overwrite files that MAY belong to other packages. But in fact none do. The suggestion is to ignore the collisions. Does that mean I should simply rm the files before retrying the emerge? thanks, allan * Messages for package dev-libs/icu-4.6.1:

Re: [gentoo-user] file collisions

2011-05-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Allan Gottlieb writes: emerge complains that icu (details below) will overwrite files that MAY belong to other packages. But in fact none do. The suggestion is to ignore the collisions. Does that mean I should simply rm the files before retrying the emerge? Yes. If you think these files

Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+C not working over ssh?

2011-05-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com [110525 21:27]: [...] Well, for no good reason, a reboot once I was back at the machine fixed the issue. I'm not sure why; I didn't change anything. I hate not knowing why reboots fix things. :( -Andy Argh!!! I did see in a google search that someone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5

2011-05-26 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 26 May 2011 07:45:09 Indi wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:40:54AM -0400, Indi wrote: Two 800MB floppies 800 KB, sorry. Can't even think that small anymore... ;) Too bad, was just about to ask you where you found those back then :) -- Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Swap performance

2011-05-26 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 25.05.2011 22:07, schrieb Alan McKinnon: I'd be interested to hear any current use cases where swap delivers a provable benefit. I need swap to build openoffice/libreoffice, my 8GB of RAM are not sufficient all the time for the tmpfs of /var/tmp/portage when building that. But aside of

Re: [gentoo-user] FVWM Desktop scrolling not working with KDE open dialog box

2011-05-26 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/5/26 Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com: I'm having a weird issue I'm hoping someone here can help with. I've asked on the FVWM mailing list, but they can't reproduce with my config, so I'm hoping someone here with experience with the KDE/QT side of things might be able to offer a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 25.05.2011 21:45, schrieb Harry Putnam: There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections. I've used static IPS for around

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:27 on Thursday 26 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: I just had a look and noticed that haldaemon is added as a user to a load of groups. The group 'cdrw' only has haldaemon as a user. What shall I do with it? # less /etc/group | grep haldaemon

Re: [gentoo-user] Swap performance

2011-05-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 26 May 2011 00:40:21 Alex Schuster wrote: Paul Hartman writes: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: I can't remember the last time my swap was used at all. I have 12G of RAM, but in my prior system with 8G it was the same. Only in a rare

[gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird bug?

2011-05-26 Thread James
Adam Carter adamcarter3 at gmail.com writes: The same email address works, if I cut and past it into the To field of thunderbird. All other email address work just fine from thunderbird. Yes the auth message is bogus because you dont use different SMTP servers per email message, and the

Re: [gentoo-user] file collisions

2011-05-26 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, May 26 2011, Alex Schuster wrote: Allan Gottlieb writes: emerge complains that icu (details below) will overwrite files that MAY belong to other packages. But in fact none do. The suggestion is to ignore the collisions. Does that mean I should simply rm the files before retrying

[gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

2011-05-26 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try gnome 3. Before I do, I wonder how others have fared. This is gnome 3 vs gnome 2 (not kde). thanks, allan PS my system is ~amd64.

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-26 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] You should still delete it. I assume you mean just the haldaemon, not the group cdrw, right? Then I leave the cdrw empty with no users, correct? -- Regards, Mick This is what I did. -- Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] Swap performance

2011-05-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: On Thursday 26 May 2011 00:40:21 Alex Schuster wrote: Paul Hartman writes: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Maybe I should have bought 4G instead of 2G, so I'd have 10G, not 8G. I'm not sure if this is recommended

[gentoo-user] Can't emerge php-5.3.6

2011-05-26 Thread Mike Diehl
I'm trying to do an emerge -u world and I'm down to php and one other package that needs it. I've done emerge --sync several times. However, the php emerge fails: Generating phar.php /bin/sh: line 1: 11383 Segmentation

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge php-5.3.6

2011-05-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com [110526 13:15]: I'm trying to do an emerge -u world and I'm down to php and one other package that needs it. I've done emerge --sync several times. However, the php emerge fails:

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge php-5.3.6

2011-05-26 Thread Mike Diehl
On Thursday 26 May 2011 11:25:55 am Todd Goodman wrote: * Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com [110526 13:15]: I'm trying to do an emerge -u world and I'm down to php and one other package that needs it. I've done emerge --sync several times. However, the php emerge fails:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 May 2011 15:28:04 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Just one simple command found all machines active on the home lan including those with DHCP served addresses: netdiscover -i eth0 ENTER Thanks, I wasn't aware of netdiscover and it's a perfect fit for something I needed this week.

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 17:29:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 13:27 on Thursday 26 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: I just had a look and noticed that haldaemon is added as a user to a load of groups. The group 'cdrw' only has haldaemon as a user. What

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 17:24:05 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 25.05.2011 21:45, schrieb Harry Putnam: There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example:

[gentoo-user] Need dovecot configuration help

2011-05-26 Thread Michael Sullivan
A couple of days ago I applied via etc-update a new init script and conf file for dovecot. Now I cannot get local LAN mail from it. I was previously able to. My current dovecot version info is: carter ~ # emerge -pv dovecot These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating

Re: [gentoo-user] Need dovecot configuration help

2011-05-26 Thread Jarry
On 26. 5. 2011 21:04, Michael Sullivan wrote: A couple of days ago I applied via etc-update a new init script and conf file for dovecot. Now I cannot get local LAN mail from it. I was previously able to. I do not know which dovecot version you had before, but 2.0.11 is the first 2.x in

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

2011-05-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared. This is gnome 3 vs gnome 2 (not kde). thanks, allan PS my system is ~amd64. I actually

[gentoo-user] openrc and /etc/modprobe.d/*

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
As I was booting an old laptop I noticed a message coming up telling me that the /etc/modprobe.d/irda file will be done away with in future versions. Are these files now deprecated? Are we meant to fit everything in /etc/conf.d/modules as per the OpenRC migration page?

Re: [gentoo-user] Need dovecot configuration help

2011-05-26 Thread Michael Sullivan
On 05/26/11 14:26, Jarry wrote: On 26. 5. 2011 21:04, Michael Sullivan wrote: A couple of days ago I applied via etc-update a new init script and conf file for dovecot. Now I cannot get local LAN mail from it. I was previously able to. I do not know which dovecot version you had before,

[gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird bug?

2011-05-26 Thread walt
On 05/26/2011 09:58 AM, James wrote: Adam Carter adamcarter3 at gmail.com writes: As a troubleshooting step - have you tried a new profile? IIRC the windows version has a profile manager, if the linux version doesnt have the same then just move the .thunderbird directory so it will

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge php-5.3.6

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 19:07:20 Mike Diehl wrote: On Thursday 26 May 2011 11:25:55 am Todd Goodman wrote: * Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com [110526 13:15]: I'm trying to do an emerge -u world and I'm down to php and one other package that needs it. I've done emerge --sync several

Re: [gentoo-user] Need dovecot configuration help

2011-05-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com [110526 14:40]: A couple of days ago I applied via etc-update a new init script and conf file for dovecot. Now I cannot get local LAN mail from it. I was previously able to. My current dovecot version info is: carter ~ # emerge -pv dovecot These

Re: [gentoo-user] Need dovecot configuration help [SOLVED]

2011-05-26 Thread Michael Sullivan
On 05/26/11 14:26, Jarry wrote: On 26. 5. 2011 21:04, Michael Sullivan wrote: A couple of days ago I applied via etc-update a new init script and conf file for dovecot. Now I cannot get local LAN mail from it. I was previously able to. I do not know which dovecot version you had before,

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge php-5.3.6

2011-05-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: On Thursday 26 May 2011 19:07:20 Mike Diehl wrote: On Thursday 26 May 2011 11:25:55 am Todd Goodman wrote: * Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com [110526 13:15]: = Generating phar.php /bin/sh: line 1: 11383 Segmentation fault ` if test -x

Re: [gentoo-user] file collisions

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 May 2011 17:06:14 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Thu, May 26 2011, Alex Schuster wrote: Allan Gottlieb writes: emerge complains that icu (details below) will overwrite files that MAY belong to other packages. But in fact none do. The suggestion is to ignore the collisions.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge php-5.3.6

2011-05-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com [110526 13:40]: On Thursday 26 May 2011 11:25:55 am Todd Goodman wrote: * Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com [110526 13:15]: I'm trying to do an emerge -u world and I'm down to php and one other package that needs it. I've done emerge --sync several

Re: [gentoo-user] file collisions

2011-05-26 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: On Thursday 26 May 2011 17:06:14 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Thu, May 26 2011, Alex Schuster wrote: FEATURES=-collision-protect keepwork emerge -1a dev-libs/icu Remember that you have to delete stuff in /var/tmp/portage/dev- libs/icu-4.6.1 manually afterwards. thank you for

Re: [gentoo-user] Swap performance

2011-05-26 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 17:49:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:20 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Alex Schuster did opine thusly: Oh, even weirder: The phone just rang, and five minutes later, swap has gone to 860M. I was running rdiff-backup --list-increment-sizes,

Re: [gentoo-user] FVWM Desktop scrolling not working with KDE open dialog box

2011-05-26 Thread Jake Moe
On 05/27/11 00:22, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2011/5/26 Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com: I'm having a weird issue I'm hoping someone here can help with. I've asked on the FVWM mailing list, but they can't reproduce with my config, so I'm hoping someone here with experience with the

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

2011-05-26 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared. thanks, allan PS my system is ~amd64.

Re: [gentoo-user] FVWM Desktop scrolling not working with KDE open dialog box

2011-05-26 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/5/26 Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com: On 05/27/11 00:22, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: 2011/5/26 Jake Moe jakesaddr...@gmail.com: I'm having a weird issue I'm hoping someone here can help with. I've asked on the FVWM mailing list, but they can't reproduce with my config, so I'm hoping

[gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo

2011-05-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away. A few months ago, an update made the machine headless -- well, it could no longer bring up X but I could use the console-mode for admin, and log in via SSH from my laptop and

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

2011-05-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try gnome 3.  Before I do, I

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

2011-05-26 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 12:14 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try gnome 3. Before I do, I wonder how others have fared. This is gnome 3 vs gnome 2 (not kde). thanks, allan PS my system is ~amd64. I am in the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo

2011-05-26 Thread Mark Shields
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away. A few months ago, an update made the machine headless -- well, it could no longer bring up X

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

2011-05-26 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Thank you.  Some forum posts suggest that upgrading to gnome3 from gnome2 is difficult.  Did you 1.  Upgrade from 2.32.1 2.  Unmerge 2.32.1 then merge 3 3.  Do a fresh

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo

2011-05-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mark Shields laebsh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.comwrote: It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away. A few months ago, an

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo

2011-05-26 Thread Dale
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mark Shields laebsh...@gmail.com mailto:laebsh...@gmail.com wrote: You let a small problem like the latest live cd not booting your system scare you away? Have you tried using an older live cd? If it's a video issue,

Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine.  I feel a little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away. A few months ago, an update made the machine headless -- well, it could no longer bring up X but

[gentoo-user] ip_rt_bug: 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255, ?

2011-05-26 Thread Paul Hartman
This is a new one to me. I've only been using kernel 2.6.39 (vanilla) for a bit over a day. A few hours ago, this happened while I was away from my computer: [150561.346968] ip_rt_bug: 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255, ? [150562.060113] ip_rt_bug: 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255, ? [150562.776438] ip_rt_bug: