Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:03:50AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote > I don't understand, why are you using sudo to run pmount when its core > purpose is to be run by normal users? > > % whatis pmount > pmount (1) - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user A normal user can pumount *WHA

Re: [gentoo-user] Update to newer kernel completely hoses suspend

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > So about a month ago I decided to update my kernel to the dreaded 3.x > series. My old 2.6.x kernel ... FYI Linus Torvalds says there was no change between 2.6 and 3.0. A quote: So what are the big changes? NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Update to newer kernel completely hoses suspend

2012-09-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > So about a month ago I decided to update my kernel to the dreaded 3.x > series. My old 2.6.x kernel was working fine, but of course I decided > to try to update it anyway, knowing there were problems with suspend > and a few other things. > > I

[gentoo-user] Update to newer kernel completely hoses suspend

2012-09-12 Thread Daniel Frey
So about a month ago I decided to update my kernel to the dreaded 3.x series. My old 2.6.x kernel was working fine, but of course I decided to try to update it anyway, knowing there were problems with suspend and a few other things. I've always used gentoo-sources. So I tried 3.3.8. Hrm. Suspend

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer: glibc detected memory corruption

2012-09-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:51:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:41:20 +0200 > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > Hi List > > > > Every once in a while, my mplayer can't play a video from the > > intertubes. It just crashes on load, it really drives me mad > > sometimes. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 >> >> Michael Mol

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 > >> Michael Mol wrote: > >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKin

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > >> There have been good forums in the past. Even now. But forums have a massive >> problem, even the great ones: if they go down everything is lost. >> > +1 > > NVidia had some really good forums. They got hacke

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 >> Michael Mol wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon >> > wrote: >> > >> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 >> > > A

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > > > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > > > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > > > mailto:n...@digim

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > There have been good forums in the past. Even now. But forums have a massive > problem, even the great ones: if they go down everything is lost. > +1 NVidia had some really good forums. They got hacked, passwords & Account IDs sto

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012, 12:03:04 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:43:09 -0400 > > Philip Webb wrote: > > When I wanted to install Linux on my new netbook 2008, > > I quickly found that the simplest way to get everything to work > > was to install Gentoo, using my notes fro

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 12.09.2012 15:47, schrieb Michael Mol: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > >>> The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once r

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 12.09.2012 15:47, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this >>> command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > >> Alex Schuster wrote: > >> > >> > Michael Mol writes: > >> > > >> > > O

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-09-12, Alex Schuster wrote: > >> It takes some more time though to maintain it, compared to the other >> distros. > My experience is the opposite. Before Gentoo, I used mainly RPM-based > distros (first RedHat, then later Mandrake). > > I find Gentoo requires much

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 >> Alex Schuster wrote: >> >> > Michael Mol writes: >> > >> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-09-12, Alex Schuster wrote: > It takes some more time though to maintain it, compared to the other > distros. My experience is the opposite. Before Gentoo, I used mainly RPM-based distros (first RedHat, then later Mandrake). I find Gentoo requires much less maintenance effort than RH

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > > wrote: > > > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Mol writes: > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P > > > > "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:33:14 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this > > command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and > > see if it repairs your password"

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > And "emerge -e world && perl-cleaner --all && python-updater && > lafilefixer --justfixit". You forgot "sync again". -- Neil Bothwick .<-Stealth Tagline signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Mol writes: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: >> > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P >> >> "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" >> > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol writes: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk>> wrote: Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am using MAKEOPTS="-j --load=4", and I often experience build problems that are

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
120912 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this >> command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and see >> if it repairs your password" just does not ever get proposed here

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this > > command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and see > > if it repairs your password" jus

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this > command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and see > if it repairs your password" just does not ever get proposed here :-) Instead we get, try USE="-

Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying using the button to cause a shutdown

2012-09-12 Thread Michael
Hi, you are right, this is handelt by ACPI You´ll first need to check your BIOS settings. Look for something like "Power button" with 2 possible settings - instant power off and wait 4s. If you set that option to wait, a short press on the power button triggers an event and a default install o

Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : mouse trouble

2012-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:21:29PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote >> /etc/make.conf has the line INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" , like this machine. > I don't have evdev at all. My /etc/portage/make.conf has... > INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" >> I've checked the Kernel settings &

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Neil Bothwick was worried at the idea of leaving a root console open for all to access: My machine is not accessible to anyone else, so it's not a problem here. Yes, it's not a good idea if you're in a data centre or open-plan office. -- ,,=

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer: glibc detected memory corruption

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:41:20 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Hi List > > Every once in a while, my mplayer can't play a video from the > intertubes. It just crashes on load, it really drives me mad > sometimes. I then need to x-kill the window, and if I started from > the console, I can't ev

Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer: glibc detected memory corruption

2012-09-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 09/12/2012 12:41:20 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Hi List Every once in a while, my mplayer can't play a video from the intertubes. It just crashes on load, it really drives me mad sometimes. I then need to x-kill the window, and if I started from the console, I can't even get back i

[gentoo-user] mplayer: glibc detected memory corruption

2012-09-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hi List Every once in a while, my mplayer can't play a video from the intertubes. It just crashes on load, it really drives me mad sometimes. I then need to x-kill the window, and if I started from the console, I can't even get back its prompt with Ctrl+C. It happens with videos from Wikipedia,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:43:09 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > When I wanted to install Linux on my new netbook 2008, > I quickly found that the simplest way to get everything to work > was to install Gentoo, using my notes from previous desktop installs. > In Gentoo, problems are almost always just 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:33:05 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: Like Paul and many others I've never looked back. I'm no power user, and contrary to a lot of the press out there I don't think you need to be to use this distro. That's actually quite perceptive and correct. You d

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:33:05 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > Like Paul and many others I've never looked back. I'm no power user, > and contrary to a lot of the press out there I don't think you need to > be to use this distro. That's actually quite perceptive and correct. You don't need to be a gen

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:47:21 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > Fully agree that's a bad idea. My system uses sudoers. I.e. in > /etc/sudoers.d/001 I have the lines... > > user2 d531 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/ux * > waltdnes d531 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/ux * > > ...where /usr