Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:02 -0700, Joseph wrote: Got it. I change it to: tmpfs /var/tmp/portagedevtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 Why are you using devtmpfs? You should be using tmpfs for this, which defaults to half your available RAM. devtmpfs is a special option for early-boot /dev only. -- Neil Bothwick Deja Moo: The feeling that you heard this bull somewhere before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia driver - blank screen not even console display
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:32:15 -0700, Joseph wrote: I'm starting to have serious doubts in Nvidia (those binary drivers are piece of crap). My system just freeze after one day; I went back to nvidia-dirvers-295.75 Have you tried the nouveau drivers? The 3D may not be as fast but the kernel incompatibilities disappear. -- Neil Bothwick Crash: (v.) to terminate a program in the usual fashion, i.e. by locking up the computer or setting fire to the printer. (n.) the process of such termination. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] help
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
Am 23.02.2013 07:05, schrieb Joseph: On 02/23/13 11:08, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: On Saturday 23 February 2013 10:30:04 AM IST, Joseph wrote: I'm trying to update one of my system and running: emerge -uDNavq world I get a very strange message: No space left on device' I have plenty of room left on the HD df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 50G 13G 35G 27% / /dev/root50G 13G 35G 27% / tmpfs 3.7G 668K 3.7G 1% /run udev 10M 4.6M 5.5M 46% /dev shm 3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /dev/shm cgroup_root 10M 0 10M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup /dev/sda4 530G 119G 385G 24% /home tmpfs10M 4.6M 5.5M 46% /var/tmp/portage df -i Filesystem Inodes IUsedIFree IUse% Mounted on rootfs 3278576 829078 2449498 26% / /dev/root 3278576 829078 2449498 26% / tmpfs957692535 9571571% /run udev 949264990 9482741% /dev shm 957692 1 9576911% /dev/shm cgroup_root 957692 6 9576861% /sys/fs/cgroup /dev/sda4 35266560 33051 352335091% /home tmpfs949264990 9482741% /var/tmp/portage So, why I'm getting this message? Your /var/tmp/portage is 10 MB! Increase that. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com How do I increase it? I deleted all the file in /var/tmp/portage but after reboot the system populate it again. In fstab I have two entries: ... shm/dev/shmdevtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfsdefaults 0 0 should I just comment them out? no, you should change it to this: tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs rw,size=8G 0 0 play around with size. Usually 2GB is more than enough. Except for libreoffice. Then umount /var/tmp/portage and mount it again.
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
Am 23.02.2013 09:52, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:02 -0700, Joseph wrote: Got it. I change it to: tmpfs/var/tmp/portagedevtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 Why are you using devtmpfs? You should be using tmpfs for this, which defaults to half your available RAM. devtmpfs is a special option for early-boot /dev only. which is why he got 10mb size... good catch.
Re: [gentoo-user] help
Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter: no
Re: [gentoo-user] help
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter: no Double no. Next he will try the unsubscribe in the subject line angle with little success there either. Then someone will post the nice long reply about the unsubscribe kit and all its options. I find that one funny tho so I usually read it. o_O Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] help
On 02/23/13 17:07, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter: no Double no. Next he will try the unsubscribe in the subject line angle with little success there either. Then someone will post the nice long reply about the unsubscribe kit and all its options. I find that one funny tho so I usually read it. o_O Dale :-) :-) sorry expected robot reply just want to knowurl ofthis lists. Is available http-version of gentoo lists?
Re: [gentoo-user] help
Am 23.02.2013 14:27, schrieb Dan Hunter: On 02/23/13 17:07, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter: no Double no. Next he will try the unsubscribe in the subject line angle with little success there either. Then someone will post the nice long reply about the unsubscribe kit and all its options. I find that one funny tho so I usually read it. o_O Dale :-) :-) sorry expected robot reply just want to knowurl ofthis lists. Is available http-version of gentoo lists? look into the header of the mails your received. List-help for example. There are many email-archives carrying this list. google is your friend.
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
On 02/23/13 08:52, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:02 -0700, Joseph wrote: Got it. I change it to: tmpfs /var/tmp/portagedevtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 Why are you using devtmpfs? You should be using tmpfs for this, which defaults to half your available RAM. devtmpfs is a special option for early-boot /dev only. -- Neil Bothwick I was following the instruction from recent udev upgrade: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 copy - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ---end coopy So I change both lines in fstab: shm /dev/shmdevtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp/portagedevtmpfssize=2048M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 -- Joseph
[gentoo-user] Why does cyrus-sasl require courier-imap?
I switched to dovecot not too long ago, and I removed the authdaemond keyword from cyrus-sasl, but it still wants to pull in courier-imap. I want to remove courier-imap completely, but I still may need postfix to be able to work as sasl client, which requires cyrus-sasl (since dovecot-sasl is server side only)... So... am I stuck with keeping courier-imap around just so I can use cyrus-sasl?
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
On 02/23/13 13:41, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: tmpfs949264990 9482741% /var/tmp/portage So, why I'm getting this message? Your /var/tmp/portage is 10 MB! Increase that. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com How do I increase it? I deleted all the file in /var/tmp/portage but after reboot the system populate it again. In fstab I have two entries: ... shm/dev/shmdevtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfsdefaults 0 0 should I just comment them out? no, you should change it to this: tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs rw,size=8G 0 0 play around with size. Usually 2GB is more than enough. Except for libreoffice. Then umount /var/tmp/portage and mount it again. I have only 8Gb of RAM should I dedicate it all for tmpfs or only 2GB -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
Am 23.02.2013 15:16, schrieb Joseph: On 02/23/13 08:52, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:02 -0700, Joseph wrote: Got it. I change it to: tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 Why are you using devtmpfs? You should be using tmpfs for this, which defaults to half your available RAM. devtmpfs is a special option for early-boot /dev only. -- Neil Bothwick I was following the instruction from recent udev upgrade: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 copy - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ---end coopy So I change both lines in fstab: shm /dev/shm devtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfs size=2048M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 and the part quoted talked about DEV nothing else.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does cyrus-sasl require courier-imap?
Nevermind... gotta stop asking questions before my 2nd cup of coffee... On 2013-02-23 9:19 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I switched to dovecot not too long ago, and I removed the authdaemond keyword from cyrus-sasl, but it still wants to pull in courier-imap. I want to remove courier-imap completely, but I still may need postfix to be able to work as sasl client, which requires cyrus-sasl (since dovecot-sasl is server side only)... So... am I stuck with keeping courier-imap around just so I can use cyrus-sasl?
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
Am 23.02.2013 15:24, schrieb Joseph: On 02/23/13 13:41, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: play around with size. Usually 2GB is more than enough. Except for libreoffice. Then umount /var/tmp/portage and mount it again. I have only 8Gb of RAM should I dedicate it all for tmpfs or only 2GB tmpfs uses as much memory as necessary and nothing more. In theory, it doesn't hurt to add all your memory to it as tmpfs will start to swap when you run out of memory. However, it is usually a better idea to unmount the tmpfs and use a regular file system whenever you need more space. As Volker noted, it is probably best to use 2GB tmpfs and when you emerge libreoffice, (and maybe firefox and co.) to switch back to using a regular fs. You could also expand tmpfs so that it can eat all memory not used by your applications under normal circumstances. Example: `free -m` total used free -/+ buffers/cache: 4717 3053 So in my case I'm probably fine with a 3GB tmpfs while still avoiding excessive swapping. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
On 23/02/2013 16:24, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.02.2013 15:16, schrieb Joseph: On 02/23/13 08:52, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:02 -0700, Joseph wrote: Got it. I change it to: tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 Why are you using devtmpfs? You should be using tmpfs for this, which defaults to half your available RAM. devtmpfs is a special option for early-boot /dev only. -- Neil Bothwick I was following the instruction from recent udev upgrade: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 copy - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ---end coopy So I change both lines in fstab: shm /dev/shm devtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfs size=2048M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 and the part quoted talked about DEV nothing else. I have to say this: The number of people who completely and totally misread the simple instructions about upgrading udev is spectacular. The guides say clearly and unambiguously to modify the mount options for /dev And what did so many users at once go and do? Changed every line in fstab that had the three characters d-e-v in them as well. I dunno, sometimes I want to give up. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
Florian Philipp writes: tmpfs uses as much memory as necessary and nothing more. In theory, it doesn't hurt to add all your memory to it as tmpfs will start to swap when you run out of memory. However, it is usually a better idea to unmount the tmpfs and use a regular file system whenever you need more space. As Volker noted, it is probably best to use 2GB tmpfs and when you emerge libreoffice, (and maybe firefox and co.) to switch back to using a regular fs. You could also expand tmpfs so that it can eat all memory not used by your applications under normal circumstances. In order to avoid manual intervention when building large packages, I do it that way: In /etc/portage/package.env I have entries like these: app-emulation/virtualboxsafecflags.conf j1.conf app-office/libreoffice notmpfs.conf j1.conf dev-java/icedteanotmpfs.conf dev-lang/R j1.conf games-fps/alienarenanotmpfs.conf games-fps/worldofpadman notmpfs.conf kde-base/kdmj1.conf kde-base/plasma-workspace j1.conf kde-base/systemsettings j1.conf mail-client/thunderbird notmpfs.conf media-sound/amarok debug.conf ~net-mail/dovecot-2.1.15j1.conf net-misc/nx j1.conf sys-boot/grub grub.conf www-client/firefox notmpfs.conf Which means that for those packages the .conf scripts in /etc/portage/env.d/ are sourced. j1.conf has the line 'MAKEOPTS=-j1' in it, so those packages are not being compiled in parallel. I happen to have problems with many packages due to my MAKEOPTS being '--jobs --lod 5', somehow this make much more trouble than MAKEOPTS=-somelarge number. notmpfs.conf has 'PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/portage/tmp', while my normal PORTAGE_TMPDIR is /var/portage/tmpfs. It is 4G in size, still this is not enough for many packages. Firefox and Thunrbird are fine with the size, but they tend to be compiled both at once, and then it is not enough. safecflags.conf is: CFLAGS=-pipe -march=amdfam10 -O2 CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS debug.conf: CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -O2 -ggdb CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS FEATURES=-buildpkg splitdebug And grub.conf is 'export DONT_MOUNT_BOOT=blabla', this avoids Grub messing around with my /boot directory. Isn't portage just cool? Wonko signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Kernel 3.7.9: Lots of devices are root root rw-------.
Hi, Gentoo! Just built the new kernel 3.7.9 last night, and it's one of these nothing works situations. It seems the problems are with the device files, whose ownership is set to root root (rather than, e.g., root audio) and whose permissions are set to crw--- (rather than the expected crw-rw). I'm still running udev-171-r10. This might well make a difference. Needless to say, everything works under kernel 3.6.11. It would be nice if there were some mistake in my kernel config. Could somebody help me get this fixed, please. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
Am 23.02.2013 16:44, schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 23/02/2013 16:24, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 23.02.2013 15:16, schrieb Joseph: On 02/23/13 08:52, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:02 -0700, Joseph wrote: Got it. I change it to: tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 Why are you using devtmpfs? You should be using tmpfs for this, which defaults to half your available RAM. devtmpfs is a special option for early-boot /dev only. -- Neil Bothwick I was following the instruction from recent udev upgrade: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 copy - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ---end coopy So I change both lines in fstab: shm /dev/shm devtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs /var/tmp/portage devtmpfs size=2048M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 and the part quoted talked about DEV nothing else. I have to say this: The number of people who completely and totally misread the simple instructions about upgrading udev is spectacular. The guides say clearly and unambiguously to modify the mount options for /dev And what did so many users at once go and do? Changed every line in fstab that had the three characters d-e-v in them as well. I dunno, sometimes I want to give up. I am so tired. Really, I am.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia driver - blank screen not even console display
On 02/23/13 07:24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 22/02/13 08:14, Joseph wrote: I just upgraded system including kernel to 3.5.7 because of udev-197 Now I have a blank screen, not even console login (I can only access is via ssh) With NVidia, it is usually a good idea to at least use the latest stable gentoo-sources. So you should use 3.7.9. Also, it *is* a good idea to keyword the latest NVidia driver that's considered stable by NVidia, not by Gentoo. That would be 313.18. So update to gentoo-sources-3.7.9 and nvidia-drivers-313.18. And make sure you do (as root): eselect opencl set nvidia eselect opengl set nvidia According to nvidia the latest stable certified driver for my card: GeForce GTS 450 is: 310.32 (which is in portage) I tried it with kernel-3.6.11 it does not work but it works with 3.1.6 I don't know why? -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia driver - blank screen not even console display
2013/2/23 Joseph syscon...@gmail.com On 02/23/13 07:24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 22/02/13 08:14, Joseph wrote: I just upgraded system including kernel to 3.5.7 because of udev-197 Now I have a blank screen, not even console login (I can only access is via ssh) With NVidia, it is usually a good idea to at least use the latest stable gentoo-sources. So you should use 3.7.9. Also, it *is* a good idea to keyword the latest NVidia driver that's considered stable by NVidia, not by Gentoo. That would be 313.18. So update to gentoo-sources-3.7.9 and nvidia-drivers-313.18. And make sure you do (as root): eselect opencl set nvidia eselect opengl set nvidia According to nvidia the latest stable certified driver for my card: GeForce GTS 450 is: 310.32 (which is in portage) I tried it with kernel-3.6.11 it does not work but it works with 3.1.6 I don't know why? -- Joseph Hi, I have just read the thread and recognized that you have the same graphics card as I have. I updated my kernel this week to gentoo-sources 3.8.0. After that I tried to install the 313.18 driver and compilation failed. So I tried the 310.32 driver and it works perfectly with the new kernel. HTH -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Randolph Maaßen
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia driver - blank screen not even console display
On 02/23/13 08:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:32:15 -0700, Joseph wrote: I'm starting to have serious doubts in Nvidia (those binary drivers are piece of crap). My system just freeze after one day; I went back to nvidia-dirvers-295.75 Have you tried the nouveau drivers? The 3D may not be as fast but the kernel incompatibilities disappear. -- Neil Bothwick According to Nvidia (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver.html) the latest stable driver for my card GeForce GTS 450 is: 310.32 This driver works with kernel-3.1.6 but not with latest 3.6.11 I'm trying to setup dual driver as nvidia and nouveau as a backup. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
On Saturday 23 February 2013 15:44:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: The number of people who completely and totally misread the simple instructions about upgrading udev is spectacular. Even I did it, and I'm ashamed to admit it too. At least I managed to realise my mistake and correct it without pestering anyone else. The guides say clearly and unambiguously to modify the mount options for /dev And what did so many users at once go and do? Changed every line in fstab that had the three characters d-e-v in them as well. Few of us have a /dev line in fstab, so the line that looks most like it becomes prime suspect. I dunno, sometimes I want to give up. Don't do that until after you've straightened out your its and it's. :-) -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] No space left on device ?
On Saturday 23 February 2013 06:23:59 Joseph wrote: I have 8Gb of RAM so I change it to: tmpfs /var/tmp/portagedevtmpfs size=1512M,nr_inodes=1M 0 0 now it is going. I think you've confused yourself. /var/tmp/portage is portage's working sandbox - where it does all its work while emerging packages. Its size has nothing to do with how much RAM you have, only how much space portage needs to work in. We used to be advised to allocate swap space equal to half the RAM size, but those days are long gone. Here's what I have defined as swap: $ grep swap /etc/fstab /dev/sda3 none swapsw,pri=10 0 0 /dev/sdb3 none swapsw,pri=10 0 0 /dev/sda7 none swapsw,pri=1 0 0 /dev/sdb7 none swapsw,pri=1 0 0 The idea is to use the two 2G partitions (sdx3) for most operations and to bring in the two 20G partitions (sdx7) when doing some heavy lifting. I should really at least halve both of those sizes, but what the hell? Space is cheap and I don't need it for anything else pro tem. -- Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver - blank screen not even console display
On 02/22/13 10:49, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 02/22/2013 10:39 AM, Joseph wrote: In addition I get the flooring errors in Xorg.0.log cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 288.401] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [ 313.863] (EE) [ 313.863] (EE) Backtrace: [ 313.863] (EE) 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x36) [0x5979d6] [ 313.863] (EE) 1: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x19b8c9) [0x59b8c9] [ 313.863] (EE) 2: /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fdb5cc2+0x10810) [0x7fdb5cc30810] [ 313.863] (EE) 3: /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7fdb5b88+0x136284) [0x7fdb5b9b6284] [ 313.863] (EE) 4: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (0x7fdb56fd8000+0x116fd3) [0x7fdb570eefd3] Did you also update the Nvidia driver when you updated the system? Maybe the new Nvidia driver does not support your graphic board. I have a GeForce GT 520 box where I am stuck with nvidia-drivers-295.20 because newer drivers segfault (even though officially they should support the GT520). raffaele The official stable driver (certified by nvidia) for your card is the same one as for mine: 310.32 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver.html Just unmask it and use it, it is working on my system OK with kernel 3.1.6 but, it will work with 3.8 as well (as just reported by Randolph Maaßen) -- Joseph
[gentoo-user] switching between nvidia / nouveau drivers
I'm trying to prevent next disaster with nvidia driver/kernel combination. I'm running nvidia driver and installed nouveau as module. If for any reason nvidia or nouveau will stop working I want to just run a sript and use other one. Here is my configuration: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf blacklist nouveau cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section Device Identifier Nvidia card Driver nvidia EndSection eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia * [2] xorg-x11 In order to switch it to nouveau I would need to unload the nvidia module, but I can not do it when it is in use so I need to stop xdm first, am I correct? /etc/init.d/xdm stop (X crashes at this moment) modprobe -r nvidia mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf_backup mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_nvidia eselect opengl set xorg-x11 modprobe nouveau mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_nouveau /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/init.d/xdm start (at this moment I should have login screen) Did I miss anything? Will it work if I put it into a bash script? -- Joseph
