[gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

Alan McKinnon wrote: > dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single > misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it. > > dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have. > > Why do you need or want a message bus? > > You might as wel

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use >> Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part >> you don't have a choice about. > > Very clearly stated. Tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, András Csányi wrote: > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> >>> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, wrote: >> [ snip ] >> > I have several things depending on consolekit: >> > >> > sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by: >> > gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requ

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

On Monday 22 July 2013 21:57:06 Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > > ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the > > packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, > > and purge CK from your system; I did th

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

On Tuesday 23 July 2013 10:25:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > What you want to accomplish is cache-poisoning. There's a few ways to do > it, but it's not easy. > > You can load the customized copy of the zone onto the cache that your > internal hosts use, or set up an authoritative internal-only server.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use > Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part > you don't have a choice about. Very clearly stated. Thanks. Currently I have gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2 with c

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 2013/07/23 13:20, Yohan Pereira wrote: On 23/07/13 at 07:06am, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so I'

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

Am 2013-07-23 08:11, schrieb András Csányi: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK

Re: [gentoo-user] hp H222 SAS controller

On Mon, July 15, 2013 09:39, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 14 Jul 2013 23:35:50 Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> > On 08/07/2013 17:39, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Paul Hartman >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> ST4000DM000 >> >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 23/07/13 at 07:06am, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. > > I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. > > I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so I'll have time to > deal with any

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 07:06:18AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. > > I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. > > I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so I'll have time t

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 2013-07-22 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wonder why you didn't have dbus installed. I don't have dbus installed either, but I'm still on the old udev. I've been planning on updating it this weekend (so I'll have time to deal with any issues), but when I do an emerge -pvuDN world, dbus i

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

On 23/07/2013 11:31, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > So, this implies if I want to keep using gnome then systemd is required, > or use another desktop. That is something to think about. Correct. I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just us

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, wrote: > [ snip ] > > I have several things depending on consolekit: > > > > sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by: > > gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requires sys-auth/consolekit > > Dependency of gnome-c

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

On 23/07/2013 09:40, Pavel Volkov wrote: > I have recently installed BIND as a recursive resolver for local network. > > I'll explain my configuration. There's a network with hosts binded to > example.org domain, like host1.example.org > , host2.examp

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM, staticsafe wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40:28AM +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: > Sounds like you want the BIND views functionality: > http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.9/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#id2591409 As I understand it, views functionality is for givin

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:41:58 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > This isn't a rescue partition, it's just a GRUB menu entry and a copy ¬ > > f the ISO in /boot, so far less maintenance even than making sure a > > USB stick stays put. Plus it is much faster to boot. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40:28AM +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: > I have recently installed BIND as a recursive resolver for local network. > > I'll explain my configuration. There's a network with hosts binded to > example.org domain, like host1.example.org, host2.example.org etc. > They make DNS q

Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 2013/07/23 01:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: Sets are your friend here. I have a base set containing all the useful things I put on all installs, including the things details in the handbook like a cron daemon and system logger as well as the likes of eix, conf-update, portage-utils and emacs. Then

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

On Sun, July 21, 2013 01:45, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 07:02:35 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > >> > Yes, and it's mounted ro to minimise the risk of such damage. > >> I used to do this (keeping a rescue partitio) ... but found it was >> useful only some of the time. Nowadays I

[gentoo-user] Make BIND inject queries

I have recently installed BIND as a recursive resolver for local network. I'll explain my configuration. There's a network with hosts binded to example.org domain, like host1.example.org, host2.example.org etc. They make DNS query through recursive server A. Authoritative server for example.org do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

On 23/07/13 09:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >>> >>> This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind >>> ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally >>> inten