Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 04:06, »Q« wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2013 03:52, »Q« wrote: I doubt your wiki page idea will work, it will be just accurate enough to look like it might work and just inaccurate enough to be useless. Which

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 04:04, Thomas Mueller wrote: On the issue of whether ZFS can be shipped with the Linux kernel, FreeBSD includes ZFS with the kernel, binary and source. So does that mean it would be OK for Linux too? No. FreeBSD has a different license (BSD) than Linux (GPL 2 or 3).

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/08/2013 23:37, Joerg Schilling wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:30:05 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install. The mentioned grub.cfg was a sample from a working system, with legacy grub:0, from which I have recovered parts of the kernel command

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/08/2013 04:06, »Q« wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2013 03:52, »Q« wrote: I doubt your wiki page idea will work, it will be just accurate

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 09:14, Pandu Poluan wrote: That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is easy to find. Where? AIUI from reading various threads about this, sometimes that info can be found in nVidia's developer web forum, but I've never been able to find it there.

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: On the issue of whether ZFS can be shipped with the Linux kernel, FreeBSD includes ZFS with the kernel, binary and source. So does that mean it would be OK for Linux too? FreeBSD has a different license (BSD) than Linux (GPL 2 or 3). For

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is that the Linux kernel devs consider the license terms for ZFS to be incompatible with GPL-2.0 and therefore ZFS cannot be redistributed as a Linux kernel module. Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of the GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. The problem is not with CDDL, the problem is with the GPL. ZFS in the kernel requires

[gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-08-27 Thread Grant
How is PMTUD enabled/disabled on Gentoo? I've recently been made aware of the existence of MTU and I'm wondering if mine is set properly for a cell phone tethered connection. - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 09:59, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of the GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. The problem is not with CDDL, the problem is

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 09:53, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is that the Linux kernel devs consider the license terms for ZFS to be incompatible with GPL-2.0 and therefore ZFS cannot be redistributed as a Linux kernel module. Isn't it strange that

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The law can! The GPL is in conflict with the law and therefore the parts you have in mind are just void. Which law is the GPL in conflict with, and in which jurisdiction, and what is the extent of the conflict? The GPL is in conflict

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But you are correct that the problem seem to be humans and not a license text. You are aware that the

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But you are correct that the problem seem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about java SDK ebuilds for linux

2013-08-27 Thread Wolfgang Liebich
Am 2013-08-26 18:40, schrieb James: Wolfgang Liebich wolfgang.liebich at siemens-enterprise.com writes: Hi, I'm using GENTOO linux as development platform for Java applications. JAVA 8 is not officially out there, but still I would like to start testing it, and there are early access

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install. The mentioned grub.cfg was a sample from a working system, with legacy grub:0, from

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: In regard of file systems, it only loads a ext2 module, and the root partition is ext4 formated. Although this kernel has ext2, ext3 and ext4 built in (not modules), can this be a cue? Right now I am preparing to format the root partition as ext2,

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install. The mentioned grub.cfg was a sample from a

[gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread Grant
I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider. I just checked my DNS settings at dnscheck.pingdom.com and I got: 1. No SOA record was found when querying the name server. This is most probably due to a misconfiguration at the name server - a zone must have a SOA record. 2. Nameserver * does not

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
Ummm... I didn't suggest that ZFS be shipped with or distributed with the kernel... I was talking about some kind of overlay or patch system, where I could add zfs to my kernel use flag, and it would pull the gentoo-sources from wherver it pulls them, and pul;l the patch from a

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Wang Xuerui idontknw.w...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: In regard of file systems, it only loads a ext2 module, and the root partition is ext4 formated. Although this kernel has ext2, ext3 and ext4 built in (not modules), can this be a cue? Right now I

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install.

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it lets me as the admin do: I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. I get all the benefits of mount points with none of the downsides. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it lets me as the admin do: I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. I get all the benefits of

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 12:30, Grant wrote: I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider. I just checked my DNS settings at dnscheck.pingdom.com and I got: 1. No SOA record was found when querying the name server. This is most probably due to a misconfiguration at the name server - a zone must have

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 7:42 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm wondering what the best way would be to get something set up for ZFS file storage. I have some older servers that I can use, so was leaning toward FreeNAS... Mine are HP mini-servers

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. Please forgive me for not having

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:31:05 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: Any hints on how to diagnose a initramfs? AFAIK it is a filesystem. How can I mount it to check its contents? http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ -- Neil Bothwick Why is the word

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:33:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Ummm... I didn't suggest that ZFS be shipped with or distributed with the kernel... I was talking about some kind of overlay or patch system, where I could add zfs to my kernel use flag, and it would pull the gentoo-sources from

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-26 11:51 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? RAID types, Best Practices (especially for disaster

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 8:25 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:33:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Ummm... I didn't suggest that ZFS be shipped with or distributed with the kernel... I was talking about some kind of overlay or patch system, where I could add zfs to my kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about java SDK ebuilds for linux

2013-08-27 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 27/08/13 at 12:04pm, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: Am 2013-08-26 18:40, schrieb James: Wolfgang Liebich wolfgang.liebich at siemens-enterprise.com writes: Hi, I'm using GENTOO linux as development platform for Java applications. JAVA 8 is not officially out there, but still I would like

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 14:05, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-27 7:42 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm wondering what the best way would be to get something set up for ZFS file storage. I have some older servers that I can use, so was leaning

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Each major.minor version has a .pdf manual published, while the next version is in development, the docs get updated on a wiki and the final version is an export of that. There's a forum with knowledgeable users and the devs

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 15:11, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Each major.minor version has a .pdf manual published, while the next version is in development, the docs get updated on a wiki and the final version is an export of that. There's a forum

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:34:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. -- Neil Bothwick BING But It's Not Google signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 14:34, schrieb Tanstaafl: On 2013-08-26 11:51 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:37:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I already posted the script I use to do exactly that. emerge gentoo-sources run the script I wonder it it would be possible to have the spl and zfs-kmod ebuilds do this with an appropriate USE flag. Thats what I'm looking

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:34:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. on Linux, not for Linux ... http://zfsonlinux.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/08/13 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-08-27 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2013 09:10:39 Grant wrote: How is PMTUD enabled/disabled on Gentoo? I've recently been made aware of the existence of MTU and I'm wondering if mine is set properly for a cell phone tethered connection. - Grant # sysctl -A | grep -i pmtu net.ipv4.ip_no_pmtu_disc = 0

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread William Kenworthy
I used to use dlint for this, but the package no longer builds easily - is there any equivalent package as dig is not ideal to find what the problem actually is? BillK On 27/08/13 19:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2013 12:30, Grant wrote: I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider. I

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/27/2013 10:36 AM, William Kenworthy wrote: I used to use dlint for this, but the package no longer builds easily - is there any equivalent package as dig is not ideal to find what the problem actually is? The 'donuts' tool from net-dns/dnssec-tools can supposedly do this, if you can

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It's a small image (100M compressed), so just keep a copy handy somewhere and reflash. The GUI has a function where you can backup the running config, a restore is a simple matter of click restore in the GUI The USBstick/CF

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 17:55, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It's a small image (100M compressed), so just keep a copy handy somewhere and reflash. The GUI has a function where you can backup the running config, a restore is a simple matter of click

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for:

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I will check after mysqld ... up and running after a reboot,

[gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining 5... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 27.08.2013 18:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I will check

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... For the records: # tftpd.service [Unit] Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon [Service] EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd ${INTFTPD_OPTS} StandardInput=socket

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... For the records: # tftpd.service [Unit] Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon [Service]

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... For the records: # tftpd.service [Unit] Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon [Service] EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 19:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: For now: ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd /mnt/mypxe And wrong again, it needs -s as well. Sorry for the noise! ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /mnt/mypxe - For NFS I copied most out of this Wiki: http://gentoo-en.vfose.ru/wiki/Systemd#NFS

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:57, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files? Filing bugs for every single file? Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good! What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? services and sockets for:

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good!

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good! What was/is missing

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:15, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: While mythtv isn't really mainstream there are other daemons in this list that really *should* be supported with USE=systemd, I assume (sure, mythtv should get its file as well ...). No; the unit files should be installed by default by their

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? I quickly browsed bugs.gentoo.org ... libvirtd: I was wrong! The ebuild brings service-files. No bugs filed yet for these: in.tftpd mythbackend nfs server vixie-cron rsync mysqld has a related

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:07:58 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. on Linux, not for Linux ... http://zfsonlinux.org/ That one too ;-) -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, give up. No use being a damn fool. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread joost
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it lets me as the admin do: I get all the benefits of directories with none

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 21:24, jo...@antarean.org wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: Hi Gentoo-users, I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining 5... Jarry It's in the mail headers:

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Wang Xuerui
在 2013-8-28 上午4:03,Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com写道: On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: Hi Gentoo-users, I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Jarry
On 27-Aug-13 21:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining 5... It's in the mail headers:

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for:

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 11:08, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But you are correct that the problem seem to be humans and not

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, Michael, thanks for you

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:31:05 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: Any hints on how to diagnose a initramfs? AFAIK it is a filesystem. How can I mount it to check its contents?

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The permissions issue is an artifact of how NFS works. Sun designed it to deliver entire filesystems over the network (most often /usr and-or /home) to trusted clients. trusted being the operative word. To get Unix permissions to work, the uid on

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.08.2013 18:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... For the records: # tftpd.service [Unit] Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: No bugs filed yet for these: in.tftpd mythbackend nfs server vixie-cron rsync Filed some related bugs now: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482712 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482714

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 11:26, Joerg Schilling wrote: Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 22:19, Jarry wrote: On 27-Aug-13 21:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining 5... It's

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 22:52, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: Omit the braces. thanks ... doesn't work here anyway ... because $INTFTPD_OPTS also includes ${INTFTPD_PATH} from within /etc/conf.d/in.tftpd (which can't be resolved this way). What works: EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That's a question of packaging and bundling, which is not covered by the GPL. But kernel code and kernel modules are not mere bundles, they are derivative works by virtue of how tightly they integrate with the kernel, and how the code can only

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: man 5 make.conf also documents FEATURES=news Oddly enough, we all know how to enable FEATURES (just add to the list), but I have no idea how to disable them! I don't have news in my FEATURES but I do get the

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/27/2013 05:09 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: man 5 make.conf also documents FEATURES=news Oddly enough, we all know how to enable FEATURES (just add to the list), but I have no idea how to disable them! I don't

[gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-27 Thread gottlieb
I was away for two weeks. I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree). Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands from 2.1.x.y will continue to work? I know that several readers have used 2.2 for years

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2013 22:09:12 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: man 5 make.conf also documents FEATURES=news Oddly enough, we all know how to enable FEATURES (just add to the list), but I have no idea how to disable them!

Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-27 Thread Dale
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I was away for two weeks. I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree). Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands from 2.1.x.y will continue to work? I know that several

Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-27 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Aug 27 2013, Dale wrote: gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I was away for two weeks. I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree). Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands from 2.1.x.y will continue

[gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:57:20 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/08/2013 04:06, »Q« wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is easy to find. Where?