On Tue, February 18, 2014 15:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:54 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
As I do not have systemd installed on any machine, I can't check the
man-pages.
They are online [1].
Useful, but not necessary for this discussion.
But, if
On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
Every decent project has QA and unit tests one way or another. But
the larger project is, the more bugs it has. And I do not want bugs
in PID 1,
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote:
Or to create a non-systemd profile :)
For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
the default.
Quite the opposite, to have a separate systemd profile would mean that
systemd was not the default,
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600
Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/18/2014 12:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko
birc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Yet again, I respect
For a week or so I see flickering applications here.
I thought it would help to upgrade nvidia-drivers but even todays update
didn't help.
I rebuilt thunderbird-24.3.0 and nvidia-drivers-334.16-r7 ... I also
didn't find anything matching at bgo.
This is gnome-3.10, I know, masked stuff ... but
On 02/19/2014 09:06 AM, Gevisz wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600
Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 02/18/2014 12:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko
birc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
For a week or so I see flickering applications here.
I thought it would help to upgrade nvidia-drivers but even todays update
didn't help.
I rebuilt thunderbird-24.3.0 and nvidia-drivers-334.16-r7 ... I also
didn't find anything matching at bgo.
This is
Am 19.02.2014 11:27, schrieb Dale:
I don't recall upgrading my Nvidia drives with the last update but
Firefox did upgrade. I notice some weird stuff going on to but not sure
of the cause yet. It may be Firefox since that seems to be all that is
affected here. All the other programs work
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On 02/19/2014 03:02 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote:
Or to create a non-systemd profile :)
For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be
chosen as the default.
Quite the
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:12 +0400
the the.gu...@mail.ru wrote:
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On 02/18/14 17:56, Gevisz wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:30:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:34:35 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote:
How is putting systemd setting in a profile that a user has to
consciously choose to use forcing anything on anyone? Profiles are
the essence of choice but it appears you only want the choices you
approve of to be available.
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On 02/19/2014 04:50 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:34:35 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote:
How is putting systemd setting in a profile that a user has to
consciously choose to use forcing anything on anyone? Profiles
are the
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:19:43 + thegeezer wrote:
[...]
For all this talk about technical details,
nobody seems to notice the marketing
A few people including myself have noted it earlier.
that's going on and frankly it disgusts me.
And me too.
I have to confess that it does
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
the default.
Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant...
This is about *choice*. Also, I would argue the *opposite of what Canek
is saying in this last rant...
On 2014-02-18 4:05 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote:
First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things shipped
with systemd like journald (which I don't like because I think that a
binary file for syslogs is just broken) so I looked into the config
files of
On 02/19/2014 01:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
For a week or so I see flickering applications here.
I thought it would help to upgrade nvidia-drivers but even todays update
didn't help.
I rebuilt thunderbird-24.3.0 and nvidia-drivers-334.16-r7 ... I also
didn't find anything
Am 19.02.2014 14:40, schrieb walt:
On 02/19/2014 01:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
For a week or so I see flickering applications here.
I thought it would help to upgrade nvidia-drivers but even todays update
didn't help.
I rebuilt thunderbird-24.3.0 and nvidia-drivers-334.16-r7 ... I
I was recently told that I will have to use WordPress to do some
translation job.
After emerge --search wordpress, I have found that this package is
currently masked (at least for amd64 architecture). The same says
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/WordPress
Earlier, in this mailing list, I was told
Hi,
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:54:12 +0200 Gevisz wrote:
After emerge --search wordpress, I have found that this package is
currently masked (at least for amd64 architecture). The same says
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/WordPress
Earlier, in this mailing list, I was told that I can see the
On 19/02/2014 16:54, Gevisz wrote:
I was recently told that I will have to use WordPress to do some
translation job.
After emerge --search wordpress, I have found that this package is
currently masked (at least for amd64 architecture). The same says
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/WordPress
On Wed, 19 February 2014, at 1:57 pm, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
wrote:
...
btw: my thinkpads don't show this behavior. Same gnome, kernel,
thunderbird, but intel-based graphics. So it smells like nvidia ...
What have you done to rule out hardware?
Stroller.
Am 19.02.2014 16:57, schrieb Stroller:
On Wed, 19 February 2014, at 1:57 pm, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
wrote:
...
btw: my thinkpads don't show this behavior. Same gnome, kernel,
thunderbird, but intel-based graphics. So it smells like nvidia ...
What have you done to rule out
On 19/02/2014 18:38, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 19.02.2014 16:57, schrieb Stroller:
On Wed, 19 February 2014, at 1:57 pm, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
wrote:
...
btw: my thinkpads don't show this behavior. Same gnome, kernel,
thunderbird, but intel-based graphics. So it smells
On 19.02.2014 09:50, J. Roeleveld wrote:
Additionally, the use of tail -f and grep allows me to check the logs
real-time for debugging purposes.
Having to use a seperate tool that converts some proprietary binary format
to human readable/scriptable single-line logs makes no sense.
This is
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:54:08 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote:
There are technical arguments for and against systemd, which is why
this thread was started, rhetoric about forcing default profiles on
people when there is no such thing as a default profile only serve
to cloud the real issues.
Am 19.02.2014 20:02, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
Yes, it can. But not in the obvious way.
Video cards and GPUs are complex devices implementing numerous
features. It is possible that your GPU/video card hardware is broken
wrt one or a few of these features and Mozilla apps are the only ones
you
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:18:49 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/02/2014 16:54, Gevisz wrote:
I was recently told that I will have to use WordPress to do some
translation job.
After emerge --search wordpress, I have found that this package is
currently masked
On 19/02/2014 23:38, Gevisz wrote:
I doubt it does what you apear to think it does. vimpress is a
wordpress editing tool running in the vim editor. It connects to a
wordpress blog and let's you do the edits in vim instead of some
other editing tool. But you still need to have access to a
I just spotted that phrase in the sourceforge newsletter:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/
and it seems to me like an oxymoron. If that phrase makes
logical sense then my definitions of 'BIOS' and 'EFI' need
the latest updates :)
Until now I thought that EFI is a recent
and what about slackware for server?
Original Message
Subject:How about the gentoo server or cluster in production
environment?
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:41:28 +0800
From: Franklin Wang touch2...@gmail.com
To: gentoo-ser...@lists.gentoo.org,
On 20 Feb 2014 05:12, Franklin Wang touch2...@gmail.com wrote:
and what about slackware for server?
Original Message
Subject:
How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?
Date:
Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:41:28 +0800
From:
Franklin Wang touch2...@gmail.com
Maybe it's intresting, although I prefer to use red hat, suse or ubuntu
in datacenter as Google. Slackware servers're not very poppular here
On 2014年02月20日 08:14, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
On 20 Feb 2014 05:12, Franklin Wang touch2...@gmail.com
mailto:touch2...@gmail.com wrote:
and what
I think a more stable distro is better for production. My choice is
debian. I think you cant find nothing more stable that debian...
Gentoo makes the best server os because it's a custom built os where the
admin knows each and every aspect of the os.
This is true, but gentoo is a little unstable
On 20 Feb 2014 06:23, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote:
I think a more stable distro is better for production. My choice is
debian. I think you cant find nothing more stable that debian...
Gentoo makes the best server os because it's a custom built os where the
admin knows each and
Debian's powerful and stable, and I like apt very much. Gentoo and
arch can be used for soho. Google uses red hat in datacenter with a
customized kernel, and facebook started the project of open compute.
are several RISC processors going to die?
On 2014年02月20日
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:39:51 -0800, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
I just spotted that phrase in the sourceforge newsletter:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/
and it seems to me like an oxymoron. If that phrase makes
logical sense then my definitions of 'BIOS' and 'EFI' need
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-18 4:05 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote:
First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things shipped
with systemd like journald (which I don't like because I think that a
On Wed, 19 February 2014, at 4:38 pm, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
wrote:
...
What have you done to rule out hardware?
nothing.
I think hardware would not make only specific apps/windows fail, right?
At least it doesn't sound very likely to me ...
Sorry, didn't fully read your
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:50 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Tue, February 18, 2014 15:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:54 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
As I do not have systemd installed on any machine, I can't check the
man-pages.
They
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[ snip ]
Of course the larger a project is the *potential* number of bugs
increases, but so what? With enough developers, users and testers, all
bugs are
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
the default.
Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant...
This is about *choice*.
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